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FBI Releases Images of Person of Interest in Kirk Killing

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From what I've read so far the engravings, markings on the casings were mostly anti-fascists stuff such as "Hey fascist! Catch!" and “Oh bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao, ciao ciao,” which appeared to reference an Italian anti-fascist song.
How about the other two? Its clearly publicized.
 
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I am sure the other things he wrote on the casings, online, anywhere else will all come out and be added to the growing pile of evidence against the shooter.

I had no idea who Charlie Kirk was before the shooting. I am sure I'd disagree with some of his views and I'd also very like agree with some as well. I think it is sad that someone can let their dislike of a complete stranger get so bad that they are willing to kill them.
 
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Have to take all the casings into context. There are two more. Sets a pretty clear picture.
Yeah that may be true. That's why I asked you what the casings say. Seems like a simple question, but I'll give you more time to think about how to spin the answer.
 
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NYT's reports:

Many of the messages, described by Gov. Spencer Cox of Utah at a news conference announcing the arrest of Tyler Robinson, 22, adopt the flippant, sarcastic, in-jokey chatter often found on online message boards and in-game chats.

“Up arrow, right arrow, and three down arrow symbols,” as the governor described one engraving, appears to be a reference to a sequence of controller moves that unleashes bombs on the popular video game Helldivers 2.

Another phrase on the cartridges, “Notices bulges OwO what’s this?” is used for trolling, with roots in online role-play communities.

Some of the other messages on the unfired cartridges appear more politically straightforward, including one that says, “Hey fascist! Catch!”

The latter message, Mr. Cox said, most clearly showed the gunman’s intent. “I think that speaks for itself,” he said.
Another featured the words “Bella ciao,” an apparent reference to an Italian song adopted by the antifascist resistance during World War II. It is still sung by the Italian left and in other countries to commemorate the fight against fascism, and it also appears in a recent Netflix series.


 
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Yeah that may be true. That's why I asked you what the casings say. Seems like a simple question, but I'll give you more time to think about how to spin the answer.
Its all over the internet. I don't want to post it here because its very rude but , if you like , you can message me and I can break it down for you. It is meme cultured.
 
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Have to take all the casings into context. There are two more. Sets a pretty clear picture.
It's not really clear what the intent was, but they weren't expressing homophobia on the shooter's part. The "notices bulge OWO" is a reference to an old meme, and "if you're reading this, you're gay lmao" seems more like a childish taunt for investigators. Note that all the inscriptions were on the casings (the part that holds the powder and is left behind after the gun is fired), not the bullets themselves.
 
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The only thing those casings say is that the shooter is very deep into internet and meme culture, so the next obvious step would be to investigate his computer hard drive, social media activity and so on.
 
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NYT's reports:

Many of the messages, described by Gov. Spencer Cox of Utah at a news conference announcing the arrest of Tyler Robinson, 22, adopt the flippant, sarcastic, in-jokey chatter often found on online message boards and in-game chats.

“Up arrow, right arrow, and three down arrow symbols,” as the governor described one engraving, appears to be a reference to a sequence of controller moves that unleashes bombs on the popular video game Helldivers 2.

Another phrase on the cartridges, “Notices bulges OwO what’s this?” is used for trolling, with roots in online role-play communities.

Some of the other messages on the unfired cartridges appear more politically straightforward, including one that says, “Hey fascist! Catch!”

The latter message, Mr. Cox said, most clearly showed the gunman’s intent. “I think that speaks for itself,” he said.
Another featured the words “Bella ciao,” an apparent reference to an Italian song adopted by the antifascist resistance during World War II. It is still sung by the Italian left and in other countries to commemorate the fight against fascism, and it also appears in a recent Netflix series.


Was the last inscription cut off?
 
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FYI...LAST INSCRIPTION

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No. It's old playful-ish taunting from way back when, with added text speak in the end. LMAO= Laugh My (Butt) Off.
yep, straight outta middle school
 
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No. It's old playful-ish taunting from way back when, with added text speak in the end. LMAO= Laugh My (Butt) Off.
Still haven't got the entire inscription.
Thanks for sharing.
 
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Its all over the internet. I don't want to post it here because its very rude but , if you like , you can message me and I can break it down for you. It is meme cultured.
You didn't want to post it but you did. Obviously I already knew what the casings said, but as a student of Orwell I'm always interested in hearing how people can interpret words into meaning the opposite of what they mean.
 
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Not all people who are LGBT or pro-LGBT are sensitive about language. I know plenty of LGBT and pro-LGBT who are comfortable using traditionally homophobic slurs. Including the F one.

That last message doesn't necessarily mean anything, and really is pretty tame compared to how many pro LGBT people on the left talk.
 
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You didn't want to post it but you did. Obviously I already knew what the casings said, but as a student of Orwell I'm always interested in hearing how people can interpret words into meaning the opposite of what they mean.
I did because of all the incomplete posts, mainly leaving out the last inscription.
 
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yep, straight outta middle school
The easiest narrative to draw so far with what we have is this kid grew up in a likely conservative household (dad being a longtime cop), a member of the heavily online crowd (very common for this age group) and fancied (crap)posting ala 4chan and the like. Family said he was becoming a lot more political recently which would possibly suggest some sort of rift or deviation from what the family is used to. If the family is generally conservative, I'd say that would lend credence to the idea that the shooter was drifting left as of recently, and who knows where and how that influence was coming from. Too many variables there. The 2 casings mentioning Fascists is why I'd say that, but it's pretty weak evidence.

All my hunches. Really curious what they'll find on his digital footprint. Doubtful any of this will do anything to sway the temperatures. Both sides are going to claim this guy is from the other side until more definitive info is released.
 
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Was the last inscription cut off?

Are you referring to this?


Some of the other messages on the unfired cartridges appear more politically straightforward, including one that says, “Hey fascist! Catch!”

The latter message, Mr. Cox said, most clearly showed the gunman’s intent. “I think that speaks for itself,” he said.
Another featured the words “Bella ciao,” an apparent reference to an Italian song adopted by the antifascist resistance during World War II. It is still sung by the Italian left and in other countries to commemorate the fight against fascism, and it also appears in a recent Netflix series.
 
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You didn't want to post it but you did. Obviously I already knew what the casings said, but as a student of Orwell I'm always interested in hearing how people can interpret words into meaning the opposite of what they mean.
What's the opposite meaning of a Helldivers reference?
 
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