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Trump’s Name Chanted in Israel AND Gaza After Peace Deal: ‘Nobel Prize to Trump!’

It sounds like the consensus is that it's too close to decision time for this year.
That's going to be your excuse for him not winning, is it? ^_^

Say nothing about him using military force against his own people, blowing up civilian boats, pardoning people who tried to overthrow democracy in his favour, his 'War Secretary' telling the military they can commit war crimes and numerous other not at all peaceful acts.

If the Nobel committee gives him the Peace Prize, it would be because they are afraid of him putting a price on their heads or invading their country.
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JPPT's Faithful Thoughts and Devotions (3)

JPPT1974's Weekend Thoughts 10/10-10/12/2025:
Sharing with others and
For those that wanted to
Hear about the miracles of
Christ along with the way that
He shared God's Word and how
Never at all compromising or making
Fake God's truth while He was on the
Earth for the very three short years.
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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

Wasn't it Latitia James who went after Trump for what she called a financial fraud which turned out to be more of a paperwork error? Maybe she'll end up having to pay out the $100,000,000 she tried to get from him. That would be a fitting end to a woman who made it her campaign theme to go after Trump. It would be a lot like Haman going after Mordecai in the book of Esther, and then suffering the fate she intended for him.
Ah, the return of Republican fanfiction...
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Letita Jamews indicted for fraud

Justice Department indicts Letitia James after pressure from Trump


A federal grand jury in Virginia has indicted New York Attorney General Letitia James on one count of bank fraud and one count of making false statement to a financial institution
Okay. Let's see how Ms. Halligan handles a trial.
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10/7/23 Anniversary Hamas Attacked Israel

I support Israel.

Do you support the innocent citizens of Israel who suffer the shame and embarrassment of having Netanyahu and other murderous extremists in charge? Or do you support the violent and genocidal Netanyahu government?

I support the former. Just as I support the Palestinians.

I support those who want freedom, and the right of peaceful coexistence.

I do not support terrorist organizations and oppressive genocidal regimes.

-CryptoLutheran
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Men now surpass women in church attendance, especially among Gen X, millennials: Barna

43% vs 36% isn't a huge difference, but it is the trend that is interesting.

I do not believe it is the general economic well being of women that has lead to their decreasing church attendance, rather, it is the fault of the k-12 education system and societal pressures which teaches young women to believe that men and religion are dangerous for women. Yes, of course in some ways it was dangerous. My mother for example, put up with significant abuse and the church elders (1990-2001 timeframe) told her to just forget about it. About a decade later I think is when women and girls began to be respected more and were given greater autonomy to report abuse. Not a bad thing. however.. you still need to find your mate preferably before age 25! something that is now discouraged.

Young men, who have been left behind in many ways and young adult men, who are now lower than women in terms of percentage with college degrees, are realizing something is wrong and some of them may indeed be going to church looking for direction. In general, biologically, men are leaders, (because for 10000's of years had to provide for a continuously pregnant woman at home in the hopes of your dna remaining on the planet), but very few men have been taught leadership skills by their parents or by society. (I was fortunate to be in both cubscouts and boyscouts, to a limited extent i learned how to herd cats.) But as for male leadership and running a business and making money, my dad didn't teach me any of that.

About 7 years ago at a young adult youth group in the pacific northwest, a russian, married christian man showed up and while i didn't like part of his character, i do remember he had some interesting conversations with a woman who had been in the us navy, in which he was fairly aggressively asking her you know, what are your plans in life, what are you going to do to get promoted at work, etc. the tenacity and aggressiveness in him, to try and help that woman make a path forwards and figure some problems out, i've not seen except in about 1% of the population. Yet that is what is grossly needed, or our alleged christian american society is going to become overrun with corporations seeing profit at the expense of everyone.

Instead, people like him tend to get asked to leave churches, so, its just a social gathering not a place that is actually useful for young men. but, there is still the religious component which both men and women do instinctively want.

i once told a 70+ year old man to ask Jesus what to do with his remaining time on this earth, and be warned, the devil will show up real quick to tell you what to do. he laughed, knew what i was talking about.. but said what amounts to: i've never heard anyone tell me that before.
he did go to church regularly for decades, i gathered that he enjoyed the natural high he got from singing worship songs..
but made enough in the porn industry to buy 5 houses back in the 70's and 80's...

But he had never heard a pastor encourage or even suggest asking Jesus directly for personal guidance!
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No One Is Above The Law

Let’s talk about violence. Who is literally attacking ICE agents, murdering Charlie Kirk, and trying to kill Trump. This list could be much longer but the pattern is clear.

Answer my question first:

Question. When a right-wing nut commits a violent crime (let's say ten right-wing nuts commit violent crimes) does that make everyone on the Right violent?

For example, do the J6ers mean everyone on the Right is violent?

-CryptoLutheran
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Where is James Comey's mugshot?

I do. Comey lied to Congress.
Yup, he sure did
Make your case counselors.

A 2018 inspector general report concluded that Comey learned of the leak after the story was published, and that McCabe, in a meeting with Comey, was not initially forthcoming about being the one who permitted the disclosure to a Wall Street Journal reporter.

CONCLUSION
(U// The investigation (FBI) has not yielded sufficient evidence to criminally charge any person, including Comey or Richman, with making false statements or with the substantive offenses under investigation.
There is a reason why the had to fire the AG who found no reason to bring charges, and replaced him with an insurance lawyer who has no support from her subordinates in filing the indictment. She did it herself, errors and all.
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Renewable energy outpaces coal for global electricity generation in historic first, report says

Holy omission Batman! Yes they’re not going to get power from that coal burner in Delta anymore, but, the brand new natural gas/hydrogen turbine that’s replacing it was built specifically to send power to California.
'Tis true, California is not abandoning fossil fuels.
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Fear, pain and hunger: The dire impact of shutting down USAID in Africa, leaving a vacuum for China and Russia

Then he told her to not to continue with her sinful lifestyle and deny her the happiness she received having a relationship with her lover. Not very empathetic is it seeing how Jesus had the audacity to tell another person to change their sinful lifestyle instead of just accepting it. Am I right?
I really don't understand this tack. If there are drug addicts, we encourage them to get clean. If there are starving people in Africa, we don't encourage them to get fed. We feed them. But now we don't.
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Is 'once saved always saved' a biblical teaching?

Correct.

The same opportunities were given to Judas as the rest, he saw all the miracles and signs that The Father performed through Jesus, he just decided that he liked money more.
So much for heredity and environment, at least the environment part. He was with the Son of God and saw all the miracles
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Limited vs unlimited atonement?

John 6. Check that out.

You are creating a dichotomy where none exists. Of course election is from God’s perspective. He has not given us a list of those HE elected for salvation, but that doesn’t mean that God hasn’t selected people of HIS choice for salvation. And to add to this, God selected (for his own reasons) that hearing the gospel preached is how HE chooses to work in those HE chose. So of course we must be ready to share our hope of salvation with others.

Do you have a problem with God choosing Israel as his people? If not, I am confused as to why you would be so upset that God is continuing to choose whom He will for salvation.
Excellent perspective. I like your analogy with Israel having been elected by God to be His people, leaving the Gentiles outside the covenant.
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No One Is Above The Law

When this administration targets political opponents and threatens violence, that's ok.
Let’s talk about violence. Who is literally attacking ICE agents, murdering Charlie Kirk, and trying to kill Trump. This list could be much longer but the pattern is clear.
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Are infants guilty because of Adam's sin?

You'll have to demonstrate, rather than just assert, how your post #38 or #39 refutes my idea in my post (#37) #40, following:

That is precisely what Ro 5:17 states, ". . .by the trespass of one man, death reigned through that one man,"
Physical death reigned in mankind through the one, because he was cast out of Eden, being denied access to the Tree of Life. Spiritual death reigned in mankind through the one, because we inherited the sin nature. There is nothing in here but presumption to say that Adam's sin was imputed.
as does Ro 5:18-19 - "the result of one trespass was condemnation for all men. . .through the disobedience of one man, the many were made sinners."
Condemnation came to all men because the sin nature was transmitted to Adam's progeny. The context of this has to do with people who have sinned, not infants who haven't sinned. Again, there is nothing in here but presumption to say that Adam's sin was imputed.
That is precisely what Ro 5:12-14 demonstrates. . .in
that they all died between Adam and Moses when there was no law to transgress/sin against to cause their death (Ro 5:14),
therefore, their death was caused by the imputation of Adam's sin (Ro 5:17), and
which was the pattern (Ro 5:14) for the imputation of Christ's righteousness (Ro 5:18-19).
In regard to Rom. 5:12-14, here was my response that refutes your idea:
You are interpreting Paul's statement as "there was no law between Adam and Moses, therefore no transgression." But Paul has to mean something different than that, because there was certainly law, albeit not the law of Moses. Examples: Cain most certainly knew he had violated an unwritten (or unspoken) law "you shall not commit murder." If he thought he was innocent, he would not have lied to God saying he didn't know where Abel was. But he did lie, because he wanted to escape the impending judgment in violation of that moral principle. This is how we know there was law prior to Moses. Another example is when God said to Noah if a man sheds another man's blood (murder), his blood shall be shed (capital punishment). This is most certainly law before Moses. A 3rd example is God rained fire and brimstone on Sodom and Gomorrah because their sins stunk to high heaven. In this we can see there was most certainly law and transgression prior to Moses. Therefore Paul had to mean something different than what you claim.
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