Valletta said:

Time to eliminate the position of parliamentarian. It's not mentioned in the U.S. Constitution.

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What is mentioned is the separation of powers. Which is what you are actually complaining about. You either work with the constitution or you ignore it and trample it underfoot. The extraordinary number of judicial decisions going against this administration shows that Trump has gone for Option B.

Feel free to complain all you like about politically biased judiciary. Depending on my mood I either find those 'arguments' frustrating or humorously risible. I'm going Option B at the moment as well.

Hazelelponi said:

Your not understanding the wording.

After noon today on the Eastern seaboard in the United States (Washington time) is when the ceasefire starts.

It didn't start yesterday. The ceasefire has not started yet.

Communications are down in Iran, and communicating between the government and military is patchy, they needed time to even communicate a ceasefire to their own people - which meant there were ongoing operations that couldn't be stopped prior to the actual start of the ceasefire - which is at noon I think.

Give them time.

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Early on Tuesday morning, US President Donald Trump declared: "The ceasefire is now in effect. Please do not violate it!"


The message on Truth Social followed a series of posts on Monday, in which the president declared that a "complete and total ceasefire" had been agreed upon between the two countries and would begin at approximately 5am UK time.
- this was over 4 hours ago.

So which one is it?

Ivan Hlavanda said:

So why did they launch missiles once the ceasefire started?

Let's see what happens throughout the day.

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the cease fire isn't for a few more hours?

Hazelelponi said:

They had 12 hours to cease any ongoing operations that were already ongoing.

After the 12 hours is up, see if they stop... We were allowing for some things that couldn't be stopped prior to the windows closing.

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So why did they launch missiles once the ceasefire started?

Let's see what happens throughout the day.

Nithavela said:

Thank you! Please don't take my scepticism as personal.

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No offence taken. I follow Amir Tsarfati, because he posts live updates from Israel, and it takes minutes for our media to pick up.

Nithavela said:

No surprise here. I don't even blame Trump for that, the two countries had a chance to end this and Iran chose not to. So the war continues.

Man, stopping wars is HARD, isn't it? Maybe something to consider before you start or join one

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I had a feeling the ceasefire would not happen once Iran launched missiles towards Israel one hour before the start of the ceasefire

Ivan Hlavanda said:

I follow Amir Tsarfati on Telegram. He lives in Israel and posts updates on what's happening.

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They had 12 hours to cease any ongoing operations that were already ongoing.

After the 12 hours is up, see if they stop... We were allowing for some things that couldn't be stopped prior to the windows closing due to disruptions in communication etc.

Xeno.of.athens said:

Pope Francis has also spoken strongly against euthanasia and assisted suicide, calling them “a sin against God,” but he emphasises pastoral care and accompaniment for those who suffer.

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Pope St. John Paul II and Blessed Pope Benedict were also extremely opposed to euthanasia and abortion, and this represents a shared value between the Roman Catholics and the sui Juris Eastern Catholic churches in communion with Rome, the Eastern and Oriental Orthodox, the Assyrian and Ancient factions of the Church of the East, the conservative Old Catholics of the Union of Scranton, and the traditional liturgical Protestants such as Evangelical Catholic Lutherans and the Continuing Anglo Catholic Jurisdictions.

AV1611VET said:

What are science teachers then?

Are you saying they don't belong in our schools?

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Science teachers are teachers, not scientists in the large majority of cases.

AV1611VET said:

Keep looking.

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That's an incredibly funny piece of advice coming from you.

Ivan Hlavanda said:

Israel-Iran live: Ceasefire agreed - as Trump tells two sides: 'Please do not violate it'

Look at the update from around 20 minutes ago.

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Ivan Hlavanda said:

US strikes did not destroy Iran's nuclear programme, intelligence report says

The White House says the assessment is "flat-out wrong" and is "a clear attempt to demean" President Trump.

www.bbc.co.uk

BBC reports it now also.

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Thank you! Please don't take my scepticism as personal.

No surprise here. I don't even blame Trump for that, the two countries had a chance to end this and Iran chose not to. So the war continues.

Man, stopping wars is HARD, isn't it? Maybe something to consider before you start or join one.

Nithavela said:

I don't know that guy and haven't seen any reporting by western news sources about that, yet. I wouldn't be surprised, but I'd still see more evidence than just hearsay.

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BBC reports it now also.

Israel-Iran live: Ceasefire agreed - as Trump tells two sides: 'Please do not violate it'

Look at the update from around 20 minutes ago.

Ivan Hlavanda said:

I follow Amir Tsarfati on Telegram. He lives in Israel and posts updates on what's happening.

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I don't know that guy and haven't seen any reporting by western news sources about that, yet. I wouldn't be surprised, but I'd still see more evidence than just hearsay.

bèlla said:

More posturing. This has been in the news cycle for a bit and he’s on video. Trump knows it’s true that’s why he’s triggered.

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I follow Amir Tsarfati on Telegram. He lives in Israel and posts updates on what's happening.

Ivan Hlavanda said:

As of writting this message, Iran has launched more missiles towards Israel.

So much for ceasefire.

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Source?

ozso said:

I think for the most part there's going to be insistence there was weaponizing and lawfare no matter how it's conducted. That's pretty much what's happening right now, and I think that's unlikely to change no matter what the scenario might be.

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You're probably right about that. Although, to be fair, calling for an investigation despite no evidence whatsoever that there was any wrongdoing at all does kind of point toward it. In some circles, they call that a fishing expedition.

-- A2SG, something the GOP seems to have a lot of experience with, but very little success...if any.....

As of writting this message, Iran has launched more missiles towards Israel.

So much for ceasefire.

seeking.IAM said:

I have been to Hiroshima. You will never sell me that there was something righteous about that.

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It prevented any more death. WW2 was the deadliest war in human history where between 70 and 85 million people lost their lives.

Killing 140,000 people to put a final end to that? Most considered to be worth it at the time.

I'm sure they could have waited for another 70 million to die... but how would that benefit again?

To be clear, adjusted for modern population WW2 would be equivalent to 250 to 300 million people dying in a single war today.

If 300 million people were dead in war wouldn't you want to end it, if it was occuring today? Even by any means necessary?

I can't even imagine how heartsick that much death would make people, let alone what people might entertain to stop it.

I don't think ending the world war with the greatest amount of deaths in all human history is at all cause to say a bunch of genocidal racists should be allowed to have nuclear weapons so they can wipe Israel off the map, and poison their neighbors too.

There's really no comparison. Why really does matter, apples are not oranges, and the US is on Irans target list too, not only Israel. In fact, there's no one a nuclear armed Iran would not be a threat to.

trophy33 said:

Trump first said he would go to Iraq, after it failed he said it was a bad idea.

Regarding Iran, he said:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
ANY RETALIATION BY IRAN AGAINST THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA WILL BE MET WITH FORCE FAR GREATER THAN WHAT WAS WITNESSED TONIGHT. THANK YOU! DONALD J. TRUMP, PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES

In other words, Trump is for peace only if nobody returns his attacks. Sure, that is an easy peace. If some country thinks about defending itself, then Trump is not for peace anymore and will attack as long as the other country is not beaten down.


Another thing regarding Iran:

Donald J. Trump
@realDonaldTrump
It’s not politically correct to use the term, “Regime Change,” but if the current Iranian Regime is unable to MAKE IRAN GREAT AGAIN, why wouldn’t there be a Regime change??? MIGA!!!

So, it is not about few bombs and never anything more. It is "why not" about Iraq-like goal.

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We are now in a ceasefire. Are you upset about that?

It's a question, there seems some level of irritation that Trump's tactics were successful at ending the war and defeating our enemies nuclear weapons ambition.

I half expect some clown to program AI to give the answer to the question of life's meaning as "42" as per Douglas Adams "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy".

Slartibartfast brings Arthur to Magrathea's planet construction facility, and shows Arthur that in the distant past, a race of "hyperintelligent, pan-dimensional beings" created a supercomputer named Deep Thought to determine the answer to the "Ultimate Question to Life, the Universe, and Everything." Deep Thought eventually found the answer to be 42, an answer that made no sense because the Ultimate Question itself was not known.

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Godcrazy said:

It is even more nightmarish to have someone sleeping in the same bed, that is for an introvert even. They`ll be kicked out

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Sharing a bed is hard but if the bed is big enough and they keep to their side and let me have a fan on next to me then I am ok.