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At current rates of consumption, the U.S. has at least two centuries of oil, report says


Predictions that the U.S. and the world would run out of fossil fuels go back decades, and these predictions have so far turned out to be wrong. A new report shows the U.S. has 227 of oil, 130 years of gas, and 485 years of coal.
or years, activists argued for an energy transition away from fossil fuels because, they said, we were hitting “peak oil,” the point at which we can no longer produce oil because there’s little left in the ground or it’s too expensive to recover.

In 2023, the U.S. produced nearly 13 million barrels per day, more than any other nation in history. Predictions that the U.S. and the world would run out of oil go back decades, and these predictions have so far turned out to be wrong.

Tom Pyle, president of the Institute for Energy Research (IER), a free market think tank focusing on energy, told Just the News that anti-fossil fuel activists latched onto “peak oil” to push for alternatives, and with the U.S. leading the world’s production, their rhetoric has evolved.

“First, they said, ‘We don't have the resources. We're big consumers, but we don't have the energy. So we have to get off of the resource.' Then it became evident and clear that that was not the case,” Pyle said.
In 2011, IER produced its first North American Energy Inventory.

“It was really for the purpose of shattering this myth of energy scarcity. To my knowledge, prior to that, nobody had taken the effort to compile, using government data …. the amount of energy that we have in North America,” Pyle said.

In that 2011 report, Pyle stated: “Thanks to new and continuing innovations in exploration and production technology, there’s every reason to believe that today’s estimates of reserves are only a fraction of what will be produced and delivered tomorrow.”

The statement turned out to be accurate. The Shale Revolution, which combined technologies in horizontal drilling and hydraulic fracturing, made available large deposits of previously unrecoverable oil throughout the U.S.

The IER’s 2024 North American Energy Inventory update shows that North America has 1.66 trillion barrels of technically recoverable resources, and at current rates of consumption, the report calculates that it would take 227 years to deplete it all.
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New evangelism!

Maybe this isn't exactly new but it seems like it. I hear preachers talking about financial blessing, physical healing, hell, or prophecy.

Instead of all that, teach and give out literature about the commands of love, forgiveness and mercy. This is the pure gospel. Right? The rest is mostly nonsense the way its taught.

And leave the politics in the rubbish pile of contentious and worldly things that we count as a loss, like Paul did.

God never changes. We do. This is Christ's Law

What law did Adam and Eve obey? What law did Noah obey? We might conclude that they obeyed what Jesus and his apostles command us because God never changes

What is Jesus law in my opinion?

Its this:

Avoid sexual immorality and foolishness like drunkenness. I'm not saying alcoholism is sin necesarily but acting like a fool is. Being drunk should be avoided obviously but I don't judge alcoholism. I leave it up to God.

We also don't want wealth or luxury but simplicity. We don't look to politics for help but to God. We endure all manner of hardship. We are honest in everything.

We don't judge or condemn. We forgive. We avoid all division, bitterness, clamor, debate, factions, slander, gossip, government rebellion, suspicions, conspiracy theories, hate, hypocrisy, pride, and vanity.

We treat others how Jesus treated us and how we want treated. That's love. We pray for each other and keep our eyes guarded from sin that we stumble by. We guard our words as well. We help widows and orphans.

That's pretty much it. There are other things I suppose but that's it in a nutshell. That's my church in my heart. Im not perfect but I hope to be.

Holiness: Is It Necessary for salvation?

From I. C. Herendeen's (1883-1982) booklet chapters 1 & 2. (Reading my hard copy of this today after Sabbath service and just smitten with conviction. This is so right on target for today)

What Is Sanctification or Holiness?

It is very important that we know what sanctification or holiness really is. Arthur W. Pink defines it as follows: “Evangelical sanctification is holiness of heart that causes us to love God supremely, so as to yield ourselves wholly up to His constant service in all things, and to His disposal of us as our absolute Lord, whether it be for prosperity or adversity, for life or for death; and to love our neighbors as ourselves. Evangelical holiness consists not only of external works of piety and charity, but of pure thoughts, impulses and affections of soul, and an absence of sinful lusts.”

Alexander Cruden says: “True holiness consists of a conformity to the nature and will of God, whereby a saint is distinguished from the unrenewed world, and is not actuated by their principles and precepts, nor governed by their maxims and customs.”

If and when we have been renewed by the Holy Spirit, there has been infused in us a longing and panting to be like Christ in all our ways. We will hate and shun every known sin, and strive to keep every known commandment of God. We will say with David, “I esteem all thy precepts concerning all things to be right, and I hate every false way” (Psa 119:128). With Paul, we will delight to obey the law of God “after the inward man” (Rom 7:22). We will want and endeavor to have the mind of Christ, and to be conformed to His image. We will be quick to think the best of, to bear with and forgive others as Christ has forgiven us. We will constantly strive to be humble and lowly, denying ourselves so as to be of help to others, meek and patient under trials, keeping ourselves separate from worldly people, religious or otherwise. We will, “come out from among them and be separate” as the Lord commands us. We will be meek, temperate and self-denying. We will be constrained by the love of Christ to abstain from all lying, evil specking, gossiping, dishonesty, swearing, and unfair dealing with our neighbors. We will endeavor to make our religion attractive to others by our outward manner of life. In other words, we will see to it that we are in reality what we profess to be; we will not consciously play the hypocrite. We will aim at all times and in all things to “do all to the glory of God” (1Co 10:31). In the light of this let me ask, Are you holy? Are you?


II. The Necessity of Holiness

This necessity arises from the fact that we have all been born in sin and “shapen in iniquity” (Psa 51:5) and hence have hearts that hate holiness. The Lord Jesus told the religious leaders of His day, the Pharisees, that “men love darkness (sin) rather than light” (Christ).

In Hebrews 12:24 we read: “Follow peace with all men, and holiness without which no man shall see the Lord.” Since it is quite possible that the reader does harbor the hope and expectation of seeing the Lord someday, this text utters a solemn warning: it brings before us a matter of the greatest importance: it reveals how vitally important it is that we “be holy” since the absence of holiness will bar us forever from the presence of the Lord. This being so, we would be well advised to give this subject our immediate and serious consideration, lest we should be without it, or think that we are holy when we are not. The very possibility of being mistaken as to our spiritual state should make us “fear and tremble,” and cause us to give ourselves no rest till we have sure proof from the Scriptures that we have this holiness. This divine fiat (that we be holy) concerns not only some but every one whoever he is or whatever he is. ALL must be “holy” or, we are warned, we will never “see the Lord.”

These same thoughts are emphasized again in Matthew 5:8 where the Lord Jesus tells us that only “the pure in heart shall see God.” From these scriptures we see that God will not call into intimate communion with Himself any who are corrupt or unholy, for Amos 3:3 asks “Can two walk together except they be agreed?” And again, “What concord hath Christ with Belial?” Or an unholy sinner with a holy God? Our God is “glorious in holiness” (Exo 15:11), and those whom he separates unto Himself must be holy, must be “made partakers of his holiness” (Heb 12:10), for our God is not a God that “hath pleasure in wickedness, neither shall evil dwell with him” (Psa 5:4). If we would be saved and dwell eternally with God, we must be both reconciled to Him and sanctified in our inner man. This we cannot accomplish of ourselves by the mere profession of Christianity or the doing of a few good works, for these will not give us access to the Holy One. Unless we be “born of the Spirit” and washed in the precious blood of Christ and are holy, we shall never “see God.” Unless we are justified, regenerated and sanctified we do not have the life of God in us whatever profession we make, we are not true Christians in the sight of God, and will surely miss heaven at last. Do you say, “This is a hard saying, who can bear it?” We must remember that we will not be carried to heaven on flowery beds of ease. Christ, Himself, tells us we must “strive” if we are to “enter in at the strait gate.”

Alas with what mere forms of godliness, mere outward appearances and rituals so many are satisfied with. Faithful preaching of the Word seems to have no effect on them. Nothing will bring them to cry out like Job of old “Behold, I am vile...I abhor myself, and repent in dust and ashes” (Job 40:4; 42:6). No, just as long as they keep themselves free from the grosser sins that are punishable among men, their conscience seems dead to all other things, they seem not to be at all troubled by the depravity and defilement of their nature, if indeed they are even aware of their depravity and defilement.

The Spirit of God has revealed to us through Proverbs 30:12 that “There is a generation that is pure in their own eyes, and yet is not washed from their filthiness.” From this we learn that this “generation” has never been cleansed by the Holy Spirit in spite of the good opinion they have of their own state; they think themselves to be pure whereas they are “filthy.” This was true of the Pharisees of Christ’s day who were constantly cleansing their hands and cups, engaged in an endless round of ceremonial washings, and all the time ignorant of the fact that “within they were full of dead men’s bones and all uncleanness” (Mat 23:25, 27). It is sad to say that this is true of a multitude of churchgoers today. Perhaps they attend church services regularly, being orthodox in their views as far as they have any; thy give regularly and liberally to the church, but of the all-important matter of the state of their hearts before a holy God, their conscience seems entirely at ease, they are not at all concerned, for they are dead in their profession; having a name that they live but “art dead” (Rev 3:1). They are perfectly satisfied with a worthless, lifeless, fruitless, empty, false profession. All that matters with them is that they appear moral and upright before their fellowmen, and even some are unconcerned about that. They are totally unaware that God is not pleased with their outward performances unless the spirit of holiness sanctifies them. But we know that with such sacrifices God is not well-pleased unless the heart first be changed, so as to be brought into conformity with God’s nature and will. To be acceptable to God, all our activities must spring from a loving and delighting to do the will of God in a cheerful manner without refusing or repining against any duty as though it were a yoke grievous to be borne.

Take heed! Unless we are purged from the pollution of sin as well as cleared from the guilt of it, we will never be fit for communion with God. We read in Revelation 21:27, “And there shall in no wise enter into it (the eternal dwelling place of God and His people) anything that defileth, neither whatsoever worketh abomination or maketh a lie.” We see then that personal holiness is just as imperative for salvation as is the forgiveness of sin. Are we aware of this?

Walter Marshall, who wrote in 1629 said: “Many are prone to imagine nothing else to be meant by salvation but to be delivered from hell, and to enjoy heavenly happiness and glory.” Again, he said:

“God saveth us from our sinful uncleanness here by washing of regeneration and renewing of the Holy Spirit (Ti 3:5) as well as from hell hereafter. Christ was called ‘Jesus’ (Saviour) because He saves His people from their sins” (Matt 1:21). Therefore deliverance from our sins is part of our salvation which is begun in this life by justification and sanctification, and perfected in glorification in the life to come. We conclude then that holiness in this life is absolutely necessary to salvation, not as the means to the end, but as part of the end itself...without holiness we shall never see God, and are as unfit for His glorious presence as swine for the presence-chamber of an earthly king.”

He goes on to say, “Great multitudes of ignorant people that live under the Gospel harden their hearts in sin and ruin their souls forever by trusting on Christ for such an imaginary salvation as consisteth not at all in holiness, but only in forgiveness of sin and deliverance from everlasting torments. They would be free from the punishments due to sin, but they love their lusts so well that they hate holiness and desire not to be saved from the service of sin...they do not sincerely desire true salvation if they do not desire to be made holy and righteous in their hearts and lives.”

So wrote this godly man some 250 years ago. Would that we had many like him today so faithfully preaching the Word. O that we may cry out earnestly unto the Lord to save us not only from “the everlasting burnings and the devouring fire” but from sin. If we do not so cry, then are we without any real desire for God’s salvation. Let us remember that where there is no practical deliverance from the service of sin in our daily lives, we are strangers to God’s saving grace. Do we realize this?

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Will the Democratic Party drop Joe Biden?

Opinion: Democrats can still jettison Biden as an ‘August Surprise’


At a certain point, none of this makes sense.​
“This” being President Joe Biden officially becoming the Democratic nominee for president come the convention in August. The number of Democrats who are honestly thrilled by that eventuality would not fill a Mini Cooper.​
A growing number of Democrats see Biden as becoming the political version of “Groundhog Day.” Every night they go to sleep dreaming of having a new nominee, and every morning they wake up to the same old Biden. A president many now see as gaffe-prone, needing to be told where to stand, where to walk and what to say.​
What is being offered up as a “worry” or a “concern” to the public is being treated as a “blind panic” by the Democrats I speak with on a regular basis. As left-of-center Jonathan Chait recently framed it in New York Magazine: “The point here is that Democrats have a Joe Biden problem, not a partywide problem.” Nightmare may have been a more accurate description.​
Regarding Biden being a drag on the Democrats chances to hold the Senate in November, a Democratic strategist told The Hill: “Let’s cut through the BS, on the three top issues — inflation, immigration, and the war in Gaza — he’s in the toilet. The polls show he’s not doing well with some of the key voting blocs: young voters, Black voters, Hispanic voters.”​

Or will they hold onto him like grim death?

Instead of Taking Millions for Their Land, Texas Family Makes a Park Instead

A rare win for conservation was just scored in the fast-developing Travis County, Texas, where 30 minutes from Austin’s busy tech sector, music venues, and barbeque spots, a historic family ranch has just been converted into a public park.

It wasn’t just converted, it was voluntarily sold by the family who owned it—at $40 million less than what developers were offering to turn the partially forested Hill Country remnant close to Hamilton Pool Preserve into a series of apartment complexes and shopping malls.

Known as RGK Ranch, this 1,507-acre cattle ranch was owned by the Kozmetsky family for three generations. Its recently deceased owner, George Kozmetsky, made a fortune with a company called Teledyne, and invested a lot of money, entrepreneurially and philanthropically, in Austin and Travis County.

Continued below.

The "Get To Know One Another" Thread

Hello! :wave: This thread is for all of us to get to know each other better. If you're new to CF or just want to make new friends, you're in the right place! Introduce yourself, list some things you like or your hobbies, or whatever you like. Hope you enjoy the thread!

Huh?

I count it an abnormality of faith's soundness to suggest one's culture is what we guage our walk with Christ with. You won't hear that being spoken as a problem, though it does enjoy very much frowning on an assortment of issues commonly known as - outdated. A list nor instance here is not nesessesary. So if you can't relate, you may also lean far too heavily on hermaneutical effort.

In other words, for some unknown reason the human condition frequently chooses reason over His will?

I have a Very Legalistic friend

I have this VERY legalistic friend. He believe that ALL church are evil because of the Book of Revelations Talking about the Babylon Church Being the Catholic Church and that the Protestants and other Churches are the harlot offspring of the Catholic Church. He think all spiritual gifts are evil because the Bible says in the end times there will be signs and wonders from the Devil. He also wont say "I' or "Me" because he feels that it doesn't respect God. He doesn't capitalize any words accept for God and Jesus. He is one of those people who spells God as G-d. What's worse is he is constantly asking me to believe what he believes and tells me to not go to Church. It's awful. I get into arguements with him often and it is starting to get annoying. I've been praying but he hasn't changed. What can I do?

Was the death sentence always carried out in the OT?

Moses prescribed death penalty for murder (Exodus 21:12), adultery (Leviticus 20:10), blasphemy (Leviticus 24:16), idolatry (Deuteronomy 17:2-5), and various forms of sexual immorality (Leviticus 20:13-16).

God forgave David's adultery with Bathsheba (2 Samuel 12:13).

Num 35:

30 If anyone kills a person, the murderer shall be put to death on the evidence of witnesses. But no person shall be put to death on the testimony of one witness. 31 Moreover, you shall accept no ransom for the life of a murderer, who is guilty of death, but he shall be put to death. 32 And you shall accept no ransom for him who has fled to his city of refuge, that he may return to dwell in the land before the death of the high priest.
In other cases, ransoms were accepted. Wiki:

There is some question as to whether the death penalty was invariably or even usually implemented in ancient Israel, or whether this was even the intention of the Tanakh (c.f. Numbers 35:31). "It must be noted that the death penalty might also indicate the seriousness of the crime without calling for the actual implementation of it in every case. In fact, there is little evidence that many of these sanctions were ever actually carried out in ancient Israel. Only in the case of premeditated murder was there the added stricture of 'Do not accept a ransom for the life of the murderer who deserves to die' (Num 35:31). . . . Traditional wisdom, both in the Jewish and Christian communities, interpreted this verse in Numbers 35:31 to mean that out of the almost twenty cases calling for capital punishment in the Old Testament, every one of them could have the sanction commuted by an appropriate substitute of money or anything that showed the seriousness of the crime, but in the case of what we today call first-degree murder, there was never to be offered or accepted any substitute or bargaining of any kind: the offender had to pay with his or her life".[28]
[28] Walter Kaiser Jr., Peter H. Davids, F. F. Bruce, and Manfred T. Brauch, Hard Sayings of the Bible (Downers Grove: IVP Academic, 1996), p. 162. ISBN 0-8308-1423-X

Please pray that God would help me understand how my brain works.

I have been trying to explain to others how my brain works and processes things but it is extremely hard to figure out. I would like to explain a little bit more right now so you can hopefully understand a little bit better on how to pray for me. I do not try to focus on my self alot it's just very hard for me to understand people and vise versa.

The way my brain works nothing like how scientist and doctors say that it SHOULD work. I have some thoughts throughout the day just not very many. More "WORDS" come to my mind than anything else, barely any ideas, thoughts on how to complete a task,I understand a tiny amount of what I read and watch, many times I just walk around aimlessly with no thought at all of what I could do or should do. I mostly just sit on a chair because I don't have enough thoughts to figure out much else to do.

Thanks for your prayers
JAY

Catholic Bishop Sues Magazine Connecting Him to Trump

The suit was dropped when the magazine agreed to remove the incorrect info.
Bishop Barron,a well-respected Catholic media figure, did my heart good when he set the record straight.
Quote:
Editors' note: With the author's permission, the editors have removed a paragraph that originally appeared here because Bishop Robert Barron's media ministry, Word on Fire, informed us that they consider it slander for them to be in any way associated with Donald Trump or Trumpism," the updated Commonweal article said.

Marjorie Taylor Greene and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez fight during House hearing


There is no legitimate reason why the audio tapes continue to be withheld. The White House released the transcripts., let's see if the transcripts are accurate. What's the big deal? Democrats have used tricky tactics before, I wish they had not in the past. But the reality is that sometimes you have to fight fire with fire. MTG did get the response from AOC she wanted in order to dispense with the normal rules of debate and amendments before the Democrats figured what was going on.

Gospel and corruption

So much in politics and high power finance is corrupted by money and power seeking that it becomes very hard to think of any world leaders who are not tainted by the systemic corruption yet the gospel calls Christian to purity, honesty, and truth. How can a Christian serve in high office while maintaining his/her integrity.

The Logic of The Transfiguration

Peace to all,

To me the logic of Baptism is to the spirit of the soul of the being in the Body. To me, the spirit in the soul of the being is what manifests the being in the Body of the Deity as Baptized. The New Being is the soul brought into the Presence of God through the power of the Holy Spirit, From Adam and Eve we receive the Body, (spirit, soul and flesh), all from the Power of the Holy Spirit. All corrupt. Then We become Baptized through the Body to the spirit in the soul of the being by the Living Waters of Baptism and become immortal and corruptible into the Body of Christ from Birth and Resurrection as Baptized and becoming into Communion through the Power of the Holy Spirit. Communion is the re confirmation of the Holy Spirit will of God in the soul of the being, the Body (soul, spirit and flesh), becoming transfigured into the image of The Father, God. To me the logic is that all mankind become eternal beings as brothers and sisters of Christ, from the Cross, Ecce Mater tua.

There are many stories on how this is accomplished in the physical, spiritual and eternal world ahead. All faith based systems of belief have a common denominator guiding "Spirit." To me this explains the Logic of the Holy Spirit. Through the Holy Spirit will of God, we become united as one in being with the Deity, glorified and transfigured into the pattern, we become like Him, into the image of God, the Father. Please advice any correction or input or updates in-case I have presented something in error with respect to the Word.

Peace always,
Stephen

Prayer

Now days, for me at least, I must not allow anyone to know what is bothering me and must only pray in my mind. No one can know what I am praying. The reason is that we, in this day and age, do not know if "they" will try to make all your prayers come true or fail. Can you imagine, for example, Donald Trump thinking all his prayers are answered. Why would "they" do that to anyone? Or what if he started feeling like all his prayers were like a curse?
Sounds crazy? This is the world I've lived in for decades. I actually think things like it's possible [he] might actually want to turn America over to Russia or China or Putin! Of course there are lots of things I wonder and really I don't know anything. I don't even know who I am. LOL.
Anyway, I actually do ask for prayer about this. And if you want to know more about me, well, you probably don't really want to know. LOL. But let's see how this goes and maybe I'll tell you.

Happy to be here

Hello everyone. This is my first post. I'm happy to be here. Still finding my way around. I'm in my 40's and have been married to my wonderful husband for 20 years. We live in Texas and have two children in their teens and one cute dog. We attend a non-denominational church. I'm a writer and my husband is a CDL driver. I look forward to being part of this community.

Trump’s legal troubles are putting state parties in a financial crisis; Some state operations are broke, and the RNC is tightfisted

Trump’s legal troubles are drowning state Republicans in a financial flood of their own making

When infighting in the Colorado Republican Party recently spilled out into the press, the conflict wasn’t over ideologies or values. It was an argument about money; or rather, the lack of it. Like other state Republican parties nationwide, Colorado’s GOP is feeling the pinch of the national party’s Trump-centric fundraising plan. Now those internal party cracks are becoming embarrassing public fractures.

A growing number of state Republican operations are either broke or perilously close to it. Last year, the Minnesota Republican Party reported having only $53 in the bank and over $330,000 in debt. In January, Michigan’s Republicans faced bankruptcy amid a brutal MAGA leadership fight. So much for being the party of fiscal responsibility.

Republican Party chairs know from Democrats’ past examples that starved state operations lead to electoral blowouts at the ballot box. But the Republican National Committee isn’t coming to the rescue

Republicans can thank Donald Trump for their current financial problems. Trump’s deal with the RNC requires the party to run its donations first through his Save America PAC

A sound mind is a fleshy carnal mind.

A sound mind is misunderstood. People think that having mental illness means that you don't have sound judgment. However unbelievers dont have mental illness, so is their judgment sound?

The apostle Paul was actually of his mind at times and he had that thorn in the flesh. That's not exactly what people normally consider to be sound judgment.

We walk by faith not by sight. This means that it doesn't matter what our mind thinks or sees. My own mind is my enemy. I have mental struggles. I ignore my mind. Romans 8 said that nothing can separate us from God's love. Not even my broken mind. Not any illness. Nothing can rob us of God's love.

Healing Prayer for my Mother

Hi everyone, I would greatly appreciate your prayers- about 1 week ago my mother fell and broke her wrist and is now in a cast and sling, just yesterday they had to do surgery and installed screws and a metal plate to get it to heal, I was just visiting my mother this morning and she was in severe pain despite powerful pain medication. Both of my parents are elderly and are not saved and their hearts are not open to the gospel, there have been many times when I asked if I could pray for them and they said no. They are involved in a unitarian church, they believe all religions are equally valid, it is a demonic thing. Please pray for my mother's healing and for the pain to go and also for both of my parent's salvation and that their hearts would be open to the gospel! My parent's names are Denny and Lila. Thank you!

Man who attacked Pelosi's husband sentenced to 30 years


SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — The man convicted of attempting to kidnap then-House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and attacking her husband with a hammer was sentenced Friday to 30 years in prison.

Judge Jacqueline Scott Corley handed down the sentence for David DePape, 44, whom jurors found guilty last November of attempted kidnapping of a federal official and assault on the immediate family member of a federal official. Prosecutors had asked for a 40-year prison term.

DePape was given 20 years for one count and 30 years for another count. The sentences will run concurrently. He was also given credit for the 18 months that he’s been in custody.

DePape stood silently as Judge Corley handed the sentence and looked down at times. His public defense attorneys had asked the judge to sentence him to 14 years, pointing out that he was going through a difficult time in his life and had no prior criminal history.

I am not truly saved and I'm scared to tell my parents

So, I have been 'saved' three times, but I realized that I didn't mean it any of those times.

The first time I was 'saved,' I was little, so of course, I didn't mean it.
The second time, I didn't mean it either.
The third time, I just said it because I was scared of going to hell. If I tell my parents or any of my family members, they'll get upset with me. I know they will.

(By the way, sorry if this is a bit confusing. I have OCD, so...)

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