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Come Alive by Honor & Glory

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I keep my eyes fixed on you
No matter what I go through
Even on the darkest day
I trust you

Whatever may come my way
I make a choice to give you praise
Even on the hardest day
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I trust you
Cause I love you
I trust you
Cause I love you

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False Narrative about Kamala unravels

Tulsi not only exposed Kamala's record in 2016

But she just exposed additional info for the current race

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And apparently Democratic party politicians facing a contested election - are less than over-the-top in support for Harris.

From Politico -- https://www.politico.com/news/2024/07/22/swing-seat-democrats-kamala-harris-endorsements-00170231

"Most of the Democratic challengers running for competitive seats across the country had glaring omissions in their statements Sunday about President Joe Biden bowing out of the race. They didn’t mention Vice President Kamala Harris.

"It was an eyebrow-raising contrast to the dozens of House and Senate Democratic incumbents who immediately came out in support of Harris as their party’s nominee. And it was even more noticeable in the blue states of New York and California, which hold a slew of districts where voters chose Biden in 2020 but have supported GOP candidates down the ballot since.

... Harris is a relative unknown. Few campaigns have polling data indicating her standing in key states and districts.
“It’s likely her,” said one Democratic operative working on multiple competitive House races, who was granted anonymity to speak candidly. “But what’s the harm in trying to hold out hoping someone better happens?”

(Not exactly the equivalent of the blow-out event of the Republican Convention of 2024)

============ efforts to document the democratic attempt to re-write Harris' record

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In this next vid - we see
BLM question the transition to Kamala for the 2024 election
We see CBS question Kamala on being the most extreme left of all democratic Senators
We see Axios try to delete its reporting about Kamala being assigned Border Czar role in 2021

revising history for Kamala?

More about revising history for Kamala -

That article is titled " Why the Kamala Harris of Four Years Ago Could Haunt Her in 2024"

Prayer for Jeff's friend Bob and his friend Mark

Two of the best Christian men I know are being persecuted, and so I ask everyone to pray for God to intervene and help both men in this dark hour of need. These two guys have saved more lives than I can count, and right now, they need support from the Lord.

Thank you for any and all prayers,

Jeff

Test #1 Passed!

As those who saw my praise that after eleven years of retail and three at my current place of employment, I was finally getting the opportunity for Front End Advancement training. Well I took my first of four tests tonight, passed with a 90%!


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Does the Bible warn about DNA manipulation?

Not directly. I don't reckon ancient authors of scripture had any knowledge of DNA, nor did they understand how manipulation could occur.
However before the great flood they did observe the intermarriage of human females and those Jude referred to......

Jude 6-7 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh.

Moses mentioned it.

Gen 6:2–4 That the sons of God saw the daughters of men that they were fair; and they took them wives of all which they chose.

And the LORD said, My spirit shall not always strive with man, for that he also is flesh: yet his days shall be an hundred and twenty years.

There were giants in the earth in those days; and also after that, when the sons of God came in unto the daughters of men, and they bare children to them, the same became mighty men which were of old, men of renown.

Humanity was under attack. The goal was to introduce foreign DNA into the gene pool thus transforming humanity into a trans human hybrid.


The strangest thing about this period event is that Jesus says it is going to happen again.

Luke 17:26 'And as it was in the days of Noe, so shall it be also in the days of the Son of man.'

Transhumanism has already made a come back. It will not be done through interbreeding , it will be done through gene splicing, and implants. We will be linked through computer chips to global networks that will make us super humans. Satan's desire is to so defile humanity that they cease to be human.


In Revelation 18:23 says 'For by thy sorceries were all nations deceived'

When we think sorcery we tend to think in terms of magic, and witches. However, in the Strongs Concordance sorcery is G5331 Pharmakeia: Medication, magic, sorcery, witchcraft. Where we get the word Pharmacy.

Now when in present time has Satan been able to fool THE WORLD with Medication/Pharmacy??

The bible also mentions in........

Daniel 2:43
And whereas thou sawest iron mixed with miry clay, they shall mingle themselves with the seed of men: but they shall not cleave one to another, even as iron is not mixed with clay.


Are we not at the point where iron and metallic by products are being introduced and inserted in our bodies/clay?

So it happened again...

So my transgendered friend has yet again unfriended me on discord. This is a big deal because every single time he has unfriended me and I mean everytime he has done it to me over 6 times in the last 3-4 years he has attempted to harm himself and had to go away for a little while and I'm always stuck praying and worrying about him for months on end not knowing if he's alive or dead. I told him the last time this happened that if it happened again I would call the police but he moved about 3 months ago and he told me where in Ohio he moved to but I can't remember the name of the town he moved to. So all I can do at this point is sit, wait, and worry for several months for him to get out of the hospital and spend several months in a row googling his name checking for obituaries and/or updates because they don't post Psychiatric hospitalizations online or in the paper.

I'm just worried to death and this time I'm considering not being his friend anymore when the inevitable friend request comes from him several months in the future. I just don't know if I can deal with the pain anymore because he hurts himself on a regular basis. He takes meds for it and it doesn't matter how much my wife and I be his friend he has a mental illness and hes always constantly hurting himself. I should have sympathy and be sympathetic because I also have a lifelong mental illness but right now? I'm just hurting. I don't know if he is alive or dead and if he Is gone I don't think I could EVER forgive myself. Mainly because it's my fault I'm such a bad friend. If I was a good friend to him he would not attempt to harm himself every 5 minutes. I mean... come on. I don't think I could take a lifetime of this and that just makes me feel even worse. So... please pray that he's okay and gets the help he needs and finds a friend who actually makes him not want to hurt himself anymore. Instead of a friend who constantly makes him want to hurt himself... *sigh*

Somatic therapy

Brothers and sisters in Christ....

Anyone here have any experiences doing somatic therapy? E.g. "Waking the Tiger" by Peter Levine for example.

And/or experiences doing somatic experiencing, with a focus on perceptions of energy in the body?

I have been seeing a doctor who kind of funneled me into this type of therapy. We have been doing it consistently for 6 months, a combination of talk therapy and what's going on in my body.

Almost like - my physical health problems come from an energetic block, and helping the energy move by paying attention to the stuck energy is what brings health.

What's getting my attention is that my life has literally been a non-stop assault for the last few months and it feels very spiritual in origin. If God is testing me, that's OK, though I don't understand. I also know that He chastens whom He loves.

I believe we have energy that is created by God, and that we have authority over it in Christ, to the extent our Father has given us. However, something about this therapy feels wrong spiritually. Sometimes there is a reference to chakras. I don't see exactly why this would contradict God, but something feels off.

I'm hoping to hear from others who have had lived experiences with this type of work, or have witnessed other Christians who have tried something like this.

Thank you for reading.

God's Not Dead by the Newsboys

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Let love explode and bring the dead to life
A love so bold to see a revolution somehow
Let love explode and bring the dead to life
A love so bold to bring a revolution somehow
Now I'm lost in Your freedom
In this world I'll overcome
My God's not dead, He's surely alive
He's living on the inside, roaring like a lion
God's not dead, He's surely alive
He's living on the inside, roaring like a lion
He's roaring, He's roaring
He's roaring like a lion
Let hope arise and make the darkness hide
My faith is dead, I need a resurrection somehow
Now I'm lost in Your freedom
In this world I'll overcome
My God's not dead, He's surely alive
He's living on the inside, roaring like a lion
God's not dead, He's surely alive
He's living on the inside, roaring like a lion
He's roaring, He's roaring
He's roaring like a lion
He's roaring, He's roaring
Let heaven roar and fire fall
Come shake the ground
With the sound of revival
Let heaven roar and fire fall
Come shake the ground
With the sound of revival
Let heaven roar (let heaven roar) and fire fall
Come shake the ground
With the sound of revival
My God's not dead, He's surely alive
He's living on the inside, roaring like a lion
God's not dead, He's surely alive
He's living on the inside, roaring like a lion
God's not dead, He's surely alive
He's living on the inside, roaring like a lion
God's not dead, He's surely alive
He's living on the inside, roaring like a lion
He's roaring, He's roaring
He's roaring like a lion
He's roaring, He's roaring
He's roaring like a lion
He's roaring like a lion
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Why I am for Human Rights - but against a Bill of Rights.

I believe in human rights - as we are made in the image of God - and our primary ethic is to love God with all our heart and soul and might and strength, and love our neighbour as ourselves.

But I think human rights are best protected by a minimalist set of rights that guarantees the democratic process continues. Then nimble democratic processes in parliament can respond better than a dusty old parchment interpreted by equally dusty old judges. Let me explain.

  1. A Bill of Rights can be waffly words stuck in an ivory tower - and is not specific or real!
  2. A Bill of Rights will make unelected Judges the interpreters of our rights. The risk is that a dusty old parchment is interpreted to mean the wrong things in specific instances. Basically - every extra “Right” written into a Bill of Rights could potentially apply to unanticipated areas of social policy. It could slow down a democratic response to a challenge or crisis in specific policies in the real world.
  3. Australians have just enough rights in the Constitution to guarantee democracy – and trust democratic debate to handle the rest.
  4. A Bill of Rights will encode the silly prejudices and blind spots of our generation forever!
  5. A Bill of Rights enshrines petty selfishness over the rights of the community, sometimes at a vastly disproportionate cost to the community and very little reward for the individual.
  6. A Bill of Rights will politicize the judiciary

For example, a “right to privacy” is a concept that Australian’s generally take for granted. Life here is pretty much like life in the USA - but is actually better in certain instances. A “right to privacy” sounds fine - until it protects drunks on our roads and puts us vastly more danger of having our families wiped out by a drunk driver! Now imagine society has a huge debate over whether or not police should have the right to RBT - Random Breath Testing. The idea is that without any indication of bad driving or due concerns, police can set up random testing stations, wave drivers over, ask them to count to ten across an alcohol sensor - and test you! At random. A large number of people might agree - and campaign for it. But they’re prevented by “THE PARCHMENT” that says it is forbidden. This thing was written hundreds of years before the motor car was even invented!

Now imagine a majority REALLY want RBT. The Judges are helpless - “THE PARCHMENT” is clear. But Big Alcohol are funding all the political parties to favour them and get involved in the stacking of the Supreme Court. By its very nature, constitutional reform is slow and tardy. Society cannot be prevented from the harm that is drink driving. Ironically, the “Right to Privacy” ends up infringing on my most basic right of all - my “Right to Life.”

But in Australia we do not have a “Bill of Rights” in the Federal government. We have a few basic rights in our Constitution - and that’s the way I like it! We have the right to vote (Section 41), protection against acquisition of property on unjust terms (Section 51 (xxxi)), the right to a trial by jury (Section 80), freedom of religion (Section 116) and prohibition of discrimination on the basis of State of residency (Section 117).

That’s it. Pretty minimalist hey?

What it means is that questions of privacy can be sorted through the democratic arguments of the day. The government can hold an enquiry - and the public submit thoughts and arguments from their different disciplines. The media gets involved. And we vote.

Australia decided decades ago that RBT was vastly better than protecting drunk drivers. In practice, deaths to DUI are now 8 TIMES lower. Being pulled over for RBT less than once a year is worth being 8 times safer from drunk drivers killing me and my family.

A parliament acting in accordance with the wishes of the people and the latest social policy and best science can! Legislation is just profoundly better and more nimble to meet the needs of the day compared to changing a Bill of Rights!

EG: Australia had an awful mass shooting at Port Arthur. The government passed tough gun control laws straight away! Huge categories of firearms were suddenly illegal. They ran an amnesty and firearm buyback scheme to encourage owners to hand in now illegal firearms. We have not had a mass shooting of that scale since. Try doing that in America!

Conditions and technologies change. Back when America's founding fathers talked about a well organised militia having the right to firearms they were talking about muskets in a mostly walking transport system, not teenagers with automatic rifles able to flee a scene in a 4 wheel drive!

For more on this - here's my blog page.
Here's the Australian ABC podcast - "Don't leave us with the bill."

Anti-Israel rioters burn US flag, attempt to breach Capitol Police line as Netanyahu addresses Congress

A sea of Palestinian flags dominated the protests.
Chants of “No justice, no peace,” “From the river to the sea, Palestine will be freed,” and “Intifada” were shouted repeatedly.
“I never imagined seeing the flag of a terror group holding eight Americans hostage for 292 days waved in the streets of our nation’s Capitol,” Rep. Dean Phillips (D-Minn.) said on X. “Over a million Americans have given their lives to protect that right — including my own father.”

As I've said, Israel is first and then the United States. Why are there not more troops there to defend the Capitol?

J.D. Vance: Women who have not given birth, such as Kamala Harris, are “childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives,”

"In a video drawn from a 2021 interview on Fox News’s “Tucker Carlson Tonight,” J.D. Vance, now the GOP vice-presidential nominee, said that Harris and other prominent Democrats (including Transportation Secretary Pete Buttigieg and Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez) “don’t really have a direct stake” in the country’s future because they are “people without children.” In the clip, which has amassed more than 25 million views since it was shared Monday on X, Vance also refers to Democrats as “a bunch of childless cat ladies who are miserable at their own lives and the choices they’ve made.”

Harris is the step-mother of two children.
Buttigieg has two children (born in 2022).

To “hell” with God’s Image?

If the thread title got your attention and made you go huh? Perhaps even angered you? Good! I have two very sincere and very relevant questions for my ECT brothers in Christ.

1). If God made man in His own image, why would He send any of His Image bearers to hell?

Ans: He most definitely would NOT and will NOT …The Scriptures are clear … man is made in God’s Image. Yes? Therefore it follows, were God to send even one man, let alone the majority of mankind to hell, He would be condemning His own Image to hell! No? Hmmmmmmm, I can’t see how anyone can disagree with this logical conclusion.

God’s Name is on the line here folks. His Name is who He is and He is the only true God and there is no other! AMEN! He declares He will not give His glory to another … I would here be referring to Satan. The Adversary of God and man. Is God going to allow Satan to torment Him via His image bearers? Forever? At all?


2). If Jesus died and paid the penalty for our sin, and according to so many that penalty is ECT, why is Jesus seated at the Right Hand of God instead of suffering ECT in hell for all the redeemed who have trusted Him to pay the penalty for their sin?

Ans: Because “the wages of sin is death …” Both physical and spiritual death. First death, Second Death … doesn’t matter. Death is death. The last enemy to be defeated is death! No? Jesus is not suffering ECT in hell because this carnally minded concept of man is NOT what the Scriptures teach. Plain and simple. If the wages of sin was ECT … He lied! Currently Jesus is not in hell, nor is He in a perpetual state of searing pain, paying the penalty on your behalf. Your debt is still your debt!

This kind of carnal minded theological concept, when taken to its logical conclusion, shows itself to be what it really is; the most God forsaken, wicked assault ever perpetrated against His Name. It completely negates the completed work of Christ. If He were forever suffering the eternal consequences on behalf of His people, He would not have been able to be resurrected! Contempt is being pour out on all His other promises by adhering to this carnal minded doctrine and mockery of the Gospel. Once again, I can’t see how anyone can disagree with this logical conclusion.

Blessings …

Kamala Harris, over 30 congressmen not attending Israeli PM Netanyahu's address to Congress

Republican Sen. JD Vance also not in attendance

Vice President Kamala Harris won't be attending Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's speech during a joint meetingof Congress on Wednesday, with about 30 federal lawmakers also not planning to attend.

Netanyahu is expected to speak about the ongoing war against Hamas in the Gaza Strip and the effort to free the remaining Israeli and American hostages who were abducted on Oct. 7 of last year.

Harris will not be present for Netanyahu’s speech because the presumptive Democrat Party nominee for president is on the campaign trail, reported CNBC.

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I am an alcoholic going to get treatment.

There is not a whole lot to say. I have been secretly hiding my alcohol addiction for a while. While drinking, I say hurtful things and not remember. Even in my forum posts, I have noticed that I post inflammatory remarks and not even remember until I receive a warning. But what is worst of all, I feel regretful of the things I say to my wife and children. I am beginning treatment on the 26th. Please pray for me.

JD Vance is really unpopular and "dragging Trump down"


Sen. JD Vance, R-Ohio, is making history as Donald Trump's 2024 running mate, but not in the way that the Trump campaign had hoped. According to a CNN survey taken after the Republican National Convention, Vance has an approval rating of -6 points, making him the first vice presidential nominee to enter the general election with a negative rating since 1980.​
The average rating for a running mate after a party convention has been +19 points.​
"Frankly, I don't really understand the pick, and apparently neither do the American voters," CNN data analyst Harry Enten said on Tuesday's OutFront with Erin Burnett. Vance, he said, is "dragging Trump down."...​

With Trump struggling to appeal to moderate women, the former president may rue choosing a man who ran for Senate on a hardline anti-abortion stance, criticized childcare subsidies as "class war against normal people" and suggested that married women would be selfish for divorcing their abusive husbands, saying in 2021 that "one of the great tricks that the sexual revolution pulled on the American populace" was "making it easier for people to shift spouses like they change their underwear.”​
Trump could have done better.

Chuck Schumer Announces Democratic Support For Kamala Harris, Complete Embarrassment A Must See!

Watch The Enthusiastic Applaud after Schumers announcement For Kamala Harris For President, complete embarrassment, big smiles!

20 Second Clip Schumer Announcement, Must See!

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Schumer and Jeffries endorse Harris at Tuesday news conference​

July 23, 2024

Get the Facts: Project 2025

As President Joe Biden's campaign seeks to rebound from his rough debate performance, there's been an effort to turn the attention to his opponent, Donald Trump, and his connection to something called Project 2025.

"Project 2025 will destroy America. Look it up," said Biden in a recent Instagram video.

It's not just Biden – the Democratic National Committee is launching a new billboard campaign urging voters to learn more about the project.

News 8 went through the docket that stretches over 900 pages, to see what's in it – and what's not.

Project 2025 has become a bit of a call to action for the Republican Party. The 900-page political playbook is hand-crafted by conservative political leaders to make a possible trump transition as smooth as possible by hitting the ground running — with executive orders and policies.

"Project 2025" is actually just a nickname; the full title is "Mandate for Leadership 2025: The Conservative Promise."


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Donald Trump Conspiracy Theories

There is an article on Wiki about

List of conspiracy theories promoted by Donald Trump​



Is it ok for a candidate to talk about conspiracy theories or should they stick to the facts and what has been proven?

What are the rules on here about conspiracy theories? Are they open for discussion?

Harris Wins Soros Backing While Other Billionaire Donors Want an Open Contest

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Harris Wins Soros Backing While Other Billionaire Donors Want an Open Contest​

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(Bloomberg) -- Within hours of Joe Biden’s decision to bow out of the presidential race, many of the biggest names in Democratic politics — from Hillary Clinton to Gavin Newsom to megadonor George Soros — rushed to join him in backing Vice President Kamala Harris at the top of the ticket.
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The Eschatology of Israel

The Eschatology of Israel


It sounds crazy to teach what is in this post, but it’s just what I believe personally, after two and a half decades of Biblical research. Many attempt to relate Jer 31:31-33; Eze 36:25-27 to Jews who convert to Christianity, but it's actually a new covenant for Israel which will still involve "law" (Jer 31:33), "statutes and judgments" (Eze 36:27), and "ordinances" (Eze 11:20). Besides, the Christians final and New Covenant is the "Covenant of Redemption" which is not a covenant between God and man, like Israel's coming New Covenant, but is between the Father and the Son; with the Father raising Him to save believers. Many Jews truly love God and He them!

It is my belief that there will be two groups of people who shall be saved: those who believe in the Lord Jesus, and the Jews who do not believe in the Lord Jesus, but believe in God (Jn 14:1 – “Ye believe in God” KJV). Those believing in Christ will inherit the New Heaven; those believing in God only, inherit the New Earth, the final “promise” of inheriting the “land.” Scripture always speaks of the Jews inheriting the “Land” (New Earth). Jews who desire to inherit the New Heaven must believe in the Lord Jesus or they cannot enter here.

I do not think it easy, especially of being sure, that God would abandon His “people” after four millennia of Him working with them, repetitiously bringing them back to Himself after continuous straying. I say “straying” because this type of disobedience doesn’t detract their belief in Him, and there is much ignorance in their disobedience, and is why God will never fail to restore them to fellowship. Presently Israel is out of fellowship with God for not believing in His Son, but will never be out of union with Him. Their belief in God gains them union with Him; their obedience to God gains them also fellowship with Him!

It’s my belief that God will not abandon Israel after four millennia now of dealing with restoring them back to Himself after straying; not in unbelief, but disobedience. The Jews who will be in unbelief will perish (Rom 11:20; Heb 3:19; 4:6), along with the non-Christian Gentiles.

He will finally restore Israel’s fellowship to Himself, this time “causing” them to be obedient (Eze 36:27); same as the born again saint being caused to “please” God (Phil 2:13). Presently, Israel is not in fellowship with God for disbelieving in His Son, but will finally restore them to fellowship after seeing the Lord Jesus at the rapture. But those who do not believe in Christ before they see Him will miss the “blessing” (Jn 20:29) of inheriting the New Heaven; but God’s plan is that His people Israel will inherit the New Earth, and the Christians inherit the New Heaven—ruling with the Lord Jesus over the New Earth.

Most will not understand these teachings because they will never be taught as common doctrine. It’s also my belief that God is so protective of Israel—His “people,” to the point that most of the teachings of Israel’s eschatology requires much Scriptural-inference to determine their understanding.
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Also Returning back

I was on here years ago. I remember that several people were quite nice. And several were quite abrasive. I had stopped looking and posting because I can be sensitive. Hoping that in the last several years (I'm not sure exactly but I believe its been 10ish years) I've gotten thicker skin. How do I look up the old post and threads that I was participating in? Peace

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