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Why did Matthew write the Parable of the Talents and Luke write the Parable of the Ten Minas?

Matthew 25:14-30 and Luke 19:11-27 were different parables on different occasions.

1 talent = 60 minas

What is the significance of this difference?

Matthew used a more substantial unit of money. Both taught stewardship, responsibility, accountability, and judgment. I don't see much significant difference between the two parables.

Revisionist Theology

REVISIONIST THEOLOGY​

"In the broadest sense, "revisionist theology" refers to such recent theological movements as process theism and various forms of political and liberation theology (i.e., feminist, black and Third World as well as the work of other individual theologians. What is characteristic of and common to such diverse forms of theological reflection is their attempt to reformulate from various critical perspectives the meaning and truth-claims of the Christian tradition's central theological and Christological affirmations."

I have been very interested in David Tracy lately.
"For Tracy, a revisionist fundamental Christian theology is best described as philosophical reflection on the meanings present in common human experience and those present in the Christian tradition. The broad and the narrow senses of the term are not unrelated. Revisionist theology as a formal model of theological method is characterized by a specific understanding of the web of commitments which define the standpoint of the individual theologian's approach to the Christian faith. "

Anyone care to discuss?

The Phone Call Between The Obamas And Kamala Was As Fake As It Gets In Politics


Did you hear the “big news”? Barack and Michelle Obama endorsed Kamala Harris for President! Yes, it was Earth-shattering and really a game-changer…or something, at least according to the media. In reality, it was staged bit of political theater that exposed just how phony Harris and the entire Democratic Party establishment truly are.
Does anyone really believe that a phone call took place like that? If it did, the Obamas hate Kamala Harris. If it didn’t, the Obamas hate Kamala Harris.
First, Kamala is walking backstage somewhere with a film crew weirdly recording her walking with a junior staffer who carries her phone when the call comes in. The junior staffer hands the phone to Harris with it on speaker, for reasons unknown. Then she’s shocked both Michelle and Barack were on the call at the same time.
Michelle gives a completely fake, “Hey there,” to which Harris replies, “Aw, hi, you’re both together!” Is that how a human being answers a call? These aren’t the Clintons, is them both being on the phone out of the ordinary?
Then, in one of the worst and most awkward cuts in campaign ad history, Kamala is out of the theater and in a parking garage, standing by her SUV. Then Michelle, after literally only having said “Hey there,” launches into, “I can’t have this phone call without saying to my girl Kamala: I am proud of you. This is going to be historic.”
Literally, that’s every word Michelle Obama says in the video of the call the Harris campaign released. What does it mean? Nothing. “This is going to be historic”? Every presidential election is historic. Was she trying to say this would be different because she’s a black and Indian woman? Black has been done, woman has been done, and Democrats don’t really care about the Indian part, so what? Why couldn’t she have that phone call without saying that?
Even more confusing was all Barack said was, “We called to say Michelle, and I couldn’t be prouder to endorse you and to do everything we can to get you through this election and into the Oval Office.” Neither of them utter another word or even make a sound in the call, nothing.

What Does the Miracle of the Loaves and the Fishes Mean for Us?

User’s Guide to Sunday, July 28
The Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fish, shortened to the Church of the Multiplication, is  located at Tabgha, on the northwest shore of the Sea of Galilee in Israel. The modern church rests on the site of two earlier churches.
The Church of the Multiplication of the Loaves and Fish, shortened to the Church of the Multiplication, is located at Tabgha, on the northwest shore of the Sea of Galilee in Israel. The modern church rests on the site of two earlier churches. (photo: Public domain)

Msgr. Charles Pope Sunday GuideJuly 26, 2024

Sunday, July 28, is the 17th Sunday in Ordinary Time. Mass readings: 2 Kings 4:42-44; Psalm 145:10-11, 15-16, 17-18; Ephesians 4:1-6; John 6:1-15

We have in today’s Gospel the very familiar Miracle of the Loaves and the Fishes. It contains a personal appeal directly from the Lord’s lips to our ears: “Where can we buy enough food for them to eat?” The Lord still bids us to get busy and join him in feeding the multitudes.

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Ephesians 4:9 and 1 Peter 3:18-19 A mostly forgotten Matter of Doctrine (Opinions and Discussion)

Did the Holy Spirit of Christ Descend into the Realm of the Dead (Sheol) and jail break Souls?

  • Yes (Athanasian Creed)

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • No,

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • I've never considered this

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • I'm not sure, still undecided

    Votes: 1 14.3%
  • Yes, Only the Righteous Dead

    Votes: 2 28.6%
  • Yes, The Righteous Dead and the Unrighteous Dead that Sincerely Repented to the HS of Christ

    Votes: 2 28.6%

Ephesians 4:9 But what does “He ascended” mean except that He descended to the lower parts of the earth?

1 Peter 3:18 For Christ also suffered for sins once for all,
the righteous for the unrighteous,
that He might bring you to God,
after being put to death in the fleshly realm
but made alive in the spiritual realm.
19 In that state He also went and made a proclamation to the spirits in prison


Full Context given in Ephesians 4
Ephesians 4:8 For it says:

When He ascended on high,
He took prisoners into captivity;
He gave gifts to people.
9 But what does “He ascended” mean except that He descended to the lower parts of the earth?

Voting and Discussion Time... (Voting is only on Human Souls)

Did the Holy Spirit of Christ Descend into the literal Realm of the Dead (Sheol)

and jail break Souls from the Realm of the Dead, In your Opinion?

Bill Gates alleged philanthropy.

Philanthropy is an altruistic effort to improve human welfare through charitable giving or other good works.

Bill Gates is NOT into Philanthropy; this is a tax shelter and can even be used to launder money. What amazes me is that the Government lets him get away with it. But that should be no surprise. Warren Buffet says his secretary pays more taxes than he does. They are very good at avoiding taxes and they are very good at fabricating a public image for themselves, so they look good to people.

No telling how much he paid for this article to make himself look good. Then he uses his search engine to promote his propaganda. The thing is that everyone buys into his scams. The government does regulate him a little bit but not that much. This does not even get into what he is doing with AI.

Billionaire Bill Gates Has 50% of His $46 Billion Trust Invested in 2 Brilliant Stocks​

Motley fool

I’d go bonkers…

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Kitchen of the Barbie dreamhouse for sale by Kate Gabrielle in Hamilton, New Jersey -SWNS

Check out this positively pink full-sized ‘Barbie Dreamhouse’ for sale in New Jersey…

The bungalow includes a cinema room, large walk-in wardrobe, a craft room, and a handbag wall—all in bright pinks and calming lavenders.

The three-bedroom property on Hughes Drive in Hamilton Township has a unique style that may only be perfect for a Barbie superfan—but it’s charm has gone viral on the Instagram account Zillow Gone Wild.

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Hezbollah and Israel Are on the Brink of War....and Joe Biden is Silent about it



Where’s Joe Biden? As of writing this post at 2 am, there’s been no statement about the attack, not even a tweet. Who’s in charge of the White House? Does Joe Biden know there’s been an attack? In his last Oval Office address, Mr. Biden had a laundry list of items he thought he could get done, showing that he still had the mental capacity to carry out his duties. He needed to sound busy, but we’re on the brink of a second front opening in the Middle East between Israel and radical Islamic terrorists, and the president is AWOL.

Why I thought Bobrovsky was the Second Coming of Christ, and Stolarz was the Father...

Is it possible that the Son of God and His Father might be playing the greatest sport known to man?
What sport did Jesus play during his first 33 years of life?
Maybe he was a gladiator like today?
But today it's on Ice...


They were both seeking the "Holy" Grail...

Matthew 26:27


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Goaltenders make all the right saves,
and never sit in the Sin-bin, (penalty box)
2 Corinthians 5:21


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He shall walk on water, with help from his Father.
Matthew 14:26




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Edmonton will be conquered.
Numbers 24:18

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Then comes the peals of lightning...
Revelation 8:5

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Game 7 was played and won in SunRise,
John 11:24

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Pride

Gay(sodomite) pride Logo. Clouds without rain. Sodom and Gomorrah


Proverbs 16:18 KJV — Pride goeth before destruction, and an haughty
spirit before a fall.

1 John 2:16 KJV — For all that is in the world, the lust of the flesh, and the
lust of the eyes, and the pride of life, is not of the Father, but is of the
world.

Jude 1:12 KJV — These are spots in your feasts of charity, when they feast
with you, feeding themselves without fear: clouds they are without water,
carried about of winds; trees whose fruit withereth, without fruit, twice
dead, plucked up by the roots;
Obadiah 1:3 KJV — The pride of thine heart hath deceived thee, thou that
dwellest in the clefts of the rock, whose habitation is high; that saith in his
heart, Who shall bring me down to the ground?
Zephaniah 2:10 KJV — This shall they have for their pride, because they
have reproached and magnified themselves against the people of the
LORD of hosts.

2 Peter 2:18 KJV — For when they speak great swelling words of
vanity(Pride), they allure through the lusts of the flesh, through much
wantonness, those that were clean escaped from them who live in error.


Mark 7:22 KJV — Thefts, covetousness, wickedness, deceit,
lasciviousness, an evil eye, blasphemy, pride, foolishness:
1 Timothy 3:6 KJV — Not a novice, lest being lifted up with pride he fall
into the condemnation of the devil.
● Ephesians 4:17 KJV — This I say therefore, and testify in the Lord,
that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in the
vanity(Pride) of their mind,

Genesis 9:13-15 KJV — I do set my bow in the cloud, and it shall be for a
token of a covenant between me and the earth. And it shall come to pass,
when I bring a cloud over the earth, that the bow shall be seen in the
cloud: And I will remember my covenant, which is between me and you
and every living creature of all flesh; and the waters shall no more become
a flood to destroy all flesh.

Revelation 6:2 KJV — And I saw, and behold a white horse: and he(Man of Sin) that sat
on him had a bow(Gay Pride Flag); and a crown was given unto him: and he went forth
conquering(Convincing), and to conquer(Convince).
Romans 1:28 KJV — And even as they did not like to retain God in their
knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things
which are not convenient;
Daniel 11:37 KJV — Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the
desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above
all.

Romans 1:24-32 KJV — Wherefore God also gave them up to
uncleanness through the lusts of their own hearts, to dishonour their
own bodies between themselves: Who changed the truth of God
into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the
Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen. For this cause God gave
them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the
natural use into that which is against nature: And likewise also the
men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust
one toward another; men with men working that which is
unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error
which was meet. And even as they did not like to retain God in their
knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those
things which are not convenient; Being filled with all
unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness,
maliciousness; full of envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity;
whisperers, Backbiters, haters of God, despiteful, proud,
boasters, inventors of evil things, disobedient to parents,
Without understanding, covenant breakers, without natural
affection, implacable, unmerciful: Who knowing the judgment of
God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death, not only
do the same, but have pleasure in them that do them.

Jude 1:7 KJV — Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about
them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going
after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance
of eternal fire.

Ezekiel 16:49 KJV — Behold, this was the iniquity of thy sister Sodom,
pride, fulness of bread, and abundance of idleness was in her and in her
daughters, neither did she strengthen the hand of the poor and needy.

Genesis 19:24 KJV — Then the LORD rained upon
Sodom and upon Gomorrah brimstone and fire from
the LORD out of heaven



Luke 17:32 KJV — Remember Lot's wife.

Trump Claiming that He will Solve All Problems, So Christians Won't Have to Vote


This is a HUGE problem!

Trump is a convicted felon.
He still has many open indictments for more felonies.
Trump speaks in terms of vague slogans (such as "I will fix everything..."), but does not seem to have any real policies.

Some topics that immediately come to mind to me, are...

1 Why would he be addressing "Christians"?
Why not address ALL American citizens who are eligible to vote?

2 Why does Trump not understand, that his lifestyle and choices disqualify him
from being some representative of orthodox Christians, in the government?
Trump is not a Protestant Christian. He has threatened judges and their families,
and suggested that the lynching of Nancy Pelosi and Mike Pence (outside the due
process of law) was the right thing to do. This is not Christian behavior.
Biden was not a Catholic Christian (not given how he supported abortion).

3 Would any local Christian congregation hire Trump to be their pastor?
This is a ridiculous concept. Who would trust Trump to even be their financial
advisor?

4 Why does Trump continue to NOT HAVE any specific policies, that he is running on?
Why this continual reference to "solving everything"?
Trump denied that the 2025 Plan was his outline of his policies,
even though this 900 page document fills out in quite a bit of detail how Trump
would seek to use legislation and the presidential powers to carry out his "slogans".

Why does Trump continue to deny that this 2025 Plan, written by his close former advisors
and friends, does not really flesh out his policies? This Plan includes the topics that Trump
has repeatedly asserted in past speeches.

If Trump has no specific policies, then he should be honest and say that.

If Trump's specific policies are different than the 2025 Plan,
then he should lay them out in more detail before voters, instead of
asking Christians to "trust him". After all, Trump is rich enough to have
hired a thousand managers to write specific policies to carry out his
"slogans". By now, he should have had detailed policies to present
to American voters.
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It is disturbing to see this candidate for president, who has been convicted
of 34 felonies for financial fraud and trying to deceive American voters
as to his bad character, appealing to "Christians" to trust him, to "fix everything".
Trump's history, says that he is untrustable, and is not at all concerned with
building up America.

Hillary Clinton lost the 2016 election, because in her overweening arrogance
near the end of the campaign, when she had a substantial lead over Trump, she
started to mock religious conservatives. She seem to think that all religious
conservatives are anti-intellectual hillbillies.

Now, Trump, with his 34 felony convictions, and his Tucker Carlson conspiracy
theories, and his vague slogans about "fixing everything", also seems to think
that religious conservatives in America are anti-intellectul hillbillies.

The Republican Party has no credible candidate for president of the United States.

Where was Elam?

Britannica:

Elam, ancient country in southwestern Iran approximately equivalent to the modern region of Khūzestān.

Susa was Elam’s capital.

Later Elam formed a satrapy of the Persian Achaemenian dynasty, and Susa became one of the three most important cities of the Persian realm.


r/BibleVerseCommentary - Where was Elam?
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How do you read the Bible?

I'd like to hear from others how they read the Bible. I'm not talking about how one interprets etc, but how you get the information into your head.

I'll start. I use this app: Download The Bible App Now - 100% Free and I LISTEN to the Bible. I will put it on when I am in the shower in the morning, or when I am out working in my shop. There are many passages in the Bible that if I were turning pages in a book, I would want to skip past them. But because I am listening, that is less of an option. I find that I can get through much more of the Bible this way. And I think I process it differently in my head. Also, I start at the beginning (Genesis) and listen all the way through to the end. Because the OT is so long, sometimes I listen to the NT twice before starting over again in Genesis. In the app, there are multiple versions, and I like to listen to different versions each time.

How about you all? What do you do for reading? How long do you read? Do you go topically or linearly?

Best wishes,

KT

Happy to be here

Hello there,

Nice to meet you all. My name is Cami and I will always be obedient and faithful to God.

I’m in my mid-40s but have done special operations for an intelligence agency for years. God called on me to help with the most top secret, covert mission in history which is wrapping up.

I was feeling sadness recently because being part of this operation has led me to see that most people, especially in America, are bad. Maybe it was my childlike faith to believe otherwise. Please don’t get me wrong, I’m patriotic and love the USA but so many people are being led astray into ungodly and satanic behavior, even from pastors and churches.

I’m not able to get into further detail but please know that God and Jesus are here.

The world is going to be a much better place soon ❤️

Clinical Depression in Iran

Something interesting, I just found word of this on the internet- apparently Iran, the islamic republic of Iran, has very high rates of clinical depression, something like 15%-20% of Iranians have symptoms ranging from mild to severe depression. In contrast rates of depression in the USA are around 8.3%, much lower. There is a good reason for this! I think a spiritual force may be responsible for this, Iran is one of the most evil places in the world, also they adhere to a very radical form of Islam and Islam is the official state religion and the country is something like 99.5% muslim, conversion from Islam to Christianity carries the death penalty. Also the Iranian government hates Israel and that also may be a cause for this!

Republican Party leader and his lies

For the right-wing followers of Trump, do you think it is a good strategy to lie to the American people? If you support Trump, you support a person who lies for political gain. Is that a good strategy moving forward in the election? Having such a high number of Evangelical supporters, does supporting and spreading so many lies conflict with your values or is it an acceptable to spread lies in order to help your preferred candidate;s bid for President?

Border czar Kamala Harris visits Houston weeks after Jocelyn Nungaray allegedly murdered by illegal immigrants

Harris' visit notably did not include a visit to Nungaray's grieving parents who, since her death, have pleaded for a "safer country" and called for heightened border security to prevent other families from suffering the same fate.
"We have to stop burying our kids," Jocelyn's mother, Alexis Nungaray, said tearfully on "Hannity." "This isn’t right. We have to have more reinforcement when it comes to letting people in. This is not OK."

Who is surprised?

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2024 Paris Olympics: A Demonic Introduction to the Games

Hello folks. You know me already. I am a pro-environment, pro-life centrist who is tired of the stuff from the far-left and far-right, tired of my favorite TV franchises getting ruined with LGTV propaganda, and who wants to protect others from harm. My favorite pro-environment Catholic politician, Peter Sonski, would probably not approve of this nonsense. When I was a young teen in the early-mid 2010s, none of this garbage was on television on the scale that it is now. Glad I skipped the Olympics this year. Take me back to 2016, bro. Whew, rant over. As a bi Christian guy, this reinforces my stance that I'd rather be with a woman, or remain celibate for the rest of my life.

In order to keep this post relevant to both sides, I will present a leftist, centerist, conservative, and Christian perspective, to appease all sides.

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Quote from Reuters: "[The scene] recreated the famous biblical scene of Jesus Christ and his twelve apostles sharing a last meal before crucifixion, but with a group of dr*g queens, a tr*nsgender model and a n*ked singer made up as the Greek god of wine Dionysus."

Quote from Catholic News Agency: "One of the best known prelates of the Catholic Church in the United States, Bishop Robert Barron of Minnesota, called on Catholics to 'make their voices heard' in response to what he called 'the gross mockery of the Last Supper.' In a post on X, Barron said the blasphemous act was emblematic of a 'deeply secularist postmodern society' that identifies Christianity as its enemy. Meanwhile, in reparation for the blasphemy, Bishop Donald Hying of Madison, Wisconsin, immediately called on all Catholics to 'fast and pray, renew our devotion to the Eucharist, the Sacred Heart and the Virgin Mary.'"

Quote from NYP: "Controversial Kansas City Chiefs kicker Harrison Butker slammed the apparent 2024 Paris Olympics’ drag queen recreation of the 'Last Supper' as “crazy” — as French religious officials denounced the performance as a 'mockery' of Christianity."

Quote from NBC: "For many minority French communities who feel alienated over tensions arising from divisive politics and scars from the anti-gay marriage protests a decade ago, drag is a statement of defiance."

Sources below
Centrist Secular Perspective
- The Last Supper Parody by the Olympic Opening Ceremony:

Christian Perspective - Catholics Respond to Mockery of Last Supper at 2024 Olympics:

Conservative Secular Perspective - French Churches Slam Opening Ceremony:

Leftist Secular Perspective - Dr*g Queen Dazzle at the Olympics:

The Great Olympic Rainbow Delusion

The Great Olympic Rainbow Delusion. (by Tom Maccabeus )

At the start of the 2024 Olympics an estimated 1.5 billion people watched and celebrated the dazzling modern version of the ancient Greek tradition. Some labeled it the “gayest Olympics ever” which even included a bisexual androgynous threesome. But the focal point was a blasphemous portrayal of Jesus and the disciples, a drag queen recreation of the ' “Last Supper”. At the center, instead of Christ, was a woman (?) wearing a crown .


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If this wasn't enough of an outrage, there was one who is said to have “stolen the show”. It was a nude portrayal of the ancient Greek god Dionysus (son of god), the god of lawlessness, of every sexual defilement and self- indulgence, the ultimate colorful pervert.

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Paris Olympics, July 26,2024(@OlympicsParis/X)

He more so than any other ancient (demonic) “deity”, represents the spirit of antichrist. As was shown in the book The Last Days Pride Parade, he not coincidentally was also the god that the ancient archetype of the Antichrist forced upon the Jews to worship in 168 B.C.. This occurred at the time of the ancient “abomination of desolation”, a major foreshadowing of the future return of Christ.

1.5 billion people watched this mesmerizing celebration said to be about human freedom and progress. Christ and his sacrifice were mocked as the god of lawlessness was exalted. This is but another sign, a harbinger, of the coming Rainbow Antichrist.
But, the return of the Lord is near.

Catholics, others respond to mockery of Last Supper at Paris Olympics

A drag queen-led parody of the Last Supper featured during Friday’s opening ceremonies of the 2024 Paris Olympics has sparked a wave of incensed reactions and denunciations.

In a statement released Saturday, the French Bishops’ Conference criticized the “scenes of derision and mockery of Christianity, which we deeply deplore.”

“We thank the members of other religious denominations who have expressed their solidarity. This morning, we think of all Christians on all continents who have been hurt by the outrage and provocation of certain scenes,” the French bishops said.

One of the best known prelates of the Catholic Church in the United States, Bishop Robert Barron of Minnesota, called on Catholics to “make their voices heard” in response to what he called “the gross mockery of the Last Supper.”

In a post on X, Barron said the blasphemous act was emblematic of a “deeply secularist postmodern society” that identifies Christianity as its enemy.

Meanwhile, in reparation for the blasphemy, Bishop Donald Hying of Madison, Wisconsin, immediately called on all Catholics to “fast and pray, renew our devotion to the Eucharist, the Sacred Heart and the Virgin Mary.”

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Extreme Offense at Paris Olympics

I have a relative, who was a member of the United Methodist Church and perhaps still is, who is in tears and actually had to taking take anti-nausea medication due to a display that the UMC engaged in pertaining to the Last Supper at the Paris Olympics. I don’t have any details yet, but I gather that the UMC did something very unpleasant given how upset my relative is.

The relative in question is a tolerant and open-minded person, so for her to be so upset convinces me that whatever this was, it is the sort of thing that I greatly dislike.

Edit: the relative is unable to find the connection in the initial article involving her denomination, which had her so upset, but nonetheless I think this is an important issue which is so upsetting to Christians it has them making such an error.

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