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Democracy is the worst form of government...

‘Many forms of Government have been tried, and will be tried in this world of sin and woe. No one pretends that democracy is perfect or all-wise. Indeed it has been said that democracy is the worst form of Government except for all those other forms that have been tried from time to time.…’

Winston S Churchill, 11 November 1947

I've been thinking about this for quite some time (probably a lot more since the Brexit vote). There must surely be a way to improve the way we decide the major decisions that are needed to be made. Surely it's impossible to argue that what we have now is actually the best we can expect. As Winston also said:

'The best argument against democracy is a 5 minute conversation with the average voter'.

Somebody please cheer me up and tell me we can expect something better.
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Hello fellow Christians

Hello fellow Christians. I am Alex, a Christian guy with autism who is new to the forums. God's creation, our world and science fascinate me, as everything is interconnected and study of His creation align with God and the Bible.

- Alex B.

Follow the Law? Ok, then but WHICH laws in the Torah?

Hi, I'm investigating whether or not what the Messianics believe is true.

I have a question. For Messianics and those who keep the Law, following the Torah is very important. However, on 119 Ministries' website, David Wilber's website, Lion and Lamb Ministeries' website and Passion For Truth's website, there is no list saying which of the 613 commandments we need to follow and which ones we don't need to follow.

Obviously we don't keep the ceremonial laws because Jesus is our ultimate sacrifice. Plus I understand some laws are for farmers, women etc. But if we are supposed to follow the laws applicable to us, how do we know which ones to keep?!

I think it's absolute bonkers.

Thanks for reading.

How old was Jacob when he first saw Rachel?

Joseph revealed the meaning of Pharaoh's dream in Genesis 41:
28 “It is just as I said to Pharaoh: God has shown Pharaoh what he is about to do. 29 Seven years of great abundance are coming throughout the land of Egypt, 30but seven years of famine will follow them.
46a Joseph was thirty years old when he entered the service of Pharaoh king of Egypt.
Genesis 45:
4b “I am Joseph, your brother,” he said, “the one you sold into Egypt! 5And now, do not be distressed or angry with yourselves that you sold me into this place, because it was to save lives that God sent me before you. 6For the famine has covered the land these two years, and there will be five more years without plowing or harvesting.
Joseph was 30 years old when he first spoke to Pharoah. Since then, 7 years of abundance + 2 years of the beginning phase of famine had passed. When Joseph revealed his identity to his brothers, he was 39 years old.

Their brother returned to Canaan and brought Jacob to Egpyt, Genesis 47:9a
And Jacob said to Pharaoh, “The years of my pilgrimage are a hundred and thirty.
Jacob was 91 (130 - 39) when Joseph was born. There is an uncertainty of how much time had elapsed between Genesis 45:4b to Genesis 47:9a. It was probably a matter of months. I'll express as y1 year, y1<1.

Genesis 29:
18 Jacob was in love with Rachel and said, “I’ll work for you seven years in return for your younger daughter Rachel.”
30 Jacob made love to Rachel also, and his love for Rachel was greater than his love for Leah. And he worked for Laban another seven years.
Jacob worked for Laban for 14 years for his two daughters. Joseph was born around the end of this 14 years period.

Genesis 30:
22Then God remembered Rachel; he listened to her and enabled her to conceive. 23She became pregnant and gave birth to a son and said, “God has taken away my disgrace.” 24 She named him Joseph, and said, “May the Lord add to me another son.”
25 After Rachel gave birth to Joseph, Jacob said to Laban, “Send me on my way so I can go back to my own homeland.
Jacob's agreement of 14 years with Laban must have expired at this point. There is another uncertainty beyond this second 7-year period. Let's say that Joseph was born y2 years after the 14-year contract with Laban.

Genesis 31:
25Now Jacob had pitched his tent in the hill country of Gilead when Laban overtook him, and Laban and his relatives camped there as well. ...
38I have been with you for twenty years now. Your sheep and goats have not miscarried, nor have I eaten the rams of your flock.
y2 < 20−14=6

Jacob was 77 (91 − 14) when he first met Laban and Rachel, assuming y1=0 and y2=0.

Adjusting for the two uncertainties, assuming y1+y2=3, I'd say that Jacob was 77±3 years old when he first saw Rachel.

Wiki:
Arriving in Haran, Jacob saw a well where shepherds were gathering their flocks to water them and met Laban's younger daughter, Rachel, Jacob's first cousin; she was working as a shepherdess. Jacob was 77 years old,[22] and he loved Rachel immediately.

Is the second coming of Christ near?

The generation that sees the return of Israel to her homeland will not pass before all things (including Christ’s return) shall come to pass.
  • Matthew 24:34
  • Mark 13:30
  • Luke 21:32
Speaking prophetically of Israel as the fig tree (Hosea 9:10) in each of the above passages (which Jesus cursed for fruitless unbelief) being restored to produce leaves (and not fruit, I might add) means the Jewish people will return to the holy land but in a state of non-spirituality. Ezekiel 37 also prophesies to this regathering as the breathless dry bones and the joined two sticks. All the eventual outcome from the 2520 year diaspora begun in 586 BCE…

Israel was never united or under its own sovereign reign since then… until 1948 CE. But even then not in a spiritual state. That’s been nearly 100 years. Most agree a biblical generation can be between 70 to 100 years.

To date, it’s been 75 years actually. By the coincidental 200 + year advancement of globalism (reference Eustace Mullins’ book Secrets of the Federal Reserve / revisited by Dr. J.R. Church of Prophecy in the News ministry in a broadcast series on the Watchman on the Wall Radio broadcast of the Southwest Radio Church circa 1994) the stage is being set for the beast of Revelation 13 to take over the world.

He will plow with the LORD’s heifer (John 5:43 / Daniel 9:27) feigning to be the promised Messiah the Jews who reject Jesus are still looking for. In a relatively short order he will win their trust by building the third temple and invoking what appears to be a global peace (Jeremiah 6:14, Jeremiah 8:11). And when he reneges on that covenant with Israel (Daniel 9:27 / Zechariah 5:5–11) the Jews will become the refuseniks the Christians had been.

Let me back up a step. When the beast appears on the world scene, he will oppose Christ and all who believe in him with a vengeance. This will be a persecution of Christians like never before (Revelation 12:17 - Revelation 13:18). The pre-wrath rapture is only pre-God’s-wrath… the devil’s wrath has been raging against the Church for 1900 + years. And in the first half of the 70th Week of Daniel (Daniel 9:24–27) that wrath of the evil one will come to a head where believers are hunted down (by the tracking system 666) to be executed. The rapture, when it occurs mind 70th Week of Daniel, will be of very few survivors so deep in hiding that their sudden absence will go unnoticed by the world.

When the beast reneges on his covenant with the Jewish people and puts an end to Temple sacrifice to revert to his Jerusalem (Babylon) originally built by his Moses (Nimrod), the Jews will realize they’d been had. They will balk and this is why the 200 million man army will be encamped at Armageddon to utterly destroy them. It is at that time they will finally (at long last) cry out to Jesus to be saved from this annihilation. ← sadly, as a last resort for nothing else will have worked… the poison of the leaven of the Pharisees have infected their beliefs about Jesus for 1900 + years…

And Jesus will come (Jude 14 / Matthew 23:37–39 / Zechariah 14:10):

Revelation 14:19–20 (KJV)

19 And the angel thrust in his sickle into the earth, and gathered the vine of the earth, and cast it into the great winepress of the wrath of God.

20 And the winepress was trodden without the city, and blood came out of the winepress, even unto the horse bridles, by the space of a thousand and six hundred furlongs.

Jesus made it clear in Matthew 23:37–39 that his return would be to rescue the Jewish people quoting the latter half of:

Psalm 118:25–26 (KJV)

25 Save now, I beseech thee, O LORD: O LORD, I beseech thee, send now prosperity.

26 Blessed be he that cometh in the name of the LORD: we have blessed you out of the house of the LORD.

Save now (hosha nah = hosanna) YeHOSHua HaMoshiakh (Jesus the Christ).

This outcry of the Jewish people is the very purpose for allowing the tribulation and great tribulation.

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Christians who are still under the law of sin

It is strange that so many Christians have this fixation on sinful acts, especially bodily sin, considering that our sins are forgiven through faith in Jesus Christ. We are forgiven as long as we remain aware of our sinful nature, knowing that we are bound to go wrong now and then. Ruth Page explains that constant preoccupation with one's sins is equal to inverted egocentricity. It could produce psychological disaster. She criticizes the "traditional and still valid conception of sin as consuming preoccupation with oneself. The difficulty in the traditional view is that this egocentricity was called 'self-love', and the recommended alternative was self-denial or even self-hatred" (Ambiguity and the presence of God, 1985, p. 182). But one cannot love others unless one loves oneself, which is Erich Fromm's conclusion also. She continues:

Selfish people cannot love—either themselves or others. Loving oneself does not mean being lost in admiration at one's own qualities and goodness and thus oblivious to all else. That indeed would be as narcissistic as the constant search for one's sins. Instead of that, loving oneself means the recognition of the human being one is, with all one's potentialities, with the result that 'respect for one's own integrity and uniqueness, love for and understanding of one's own self cannot be separated from respect and love and understanding for another individual'.​
[...]​
But sin does not remove the relationship, for it is God’s nature always and everywhere to relate. We do not ‘clear the way’ to God, as it were, by our repentance and confession, but in our repentance we find his forgiveness already there, waiting for us. When we open ourselves to any experience we find God already there, prevenient in it, and this is true of remorse and admission of failure also. We still have to live with the consequence of our actions, but there is no need for an accumulation of guilt to corrode our capacity to respond, since we are forgiven. (ibid., pp. 183-86)​

It is remarkable that the Christian message is so hard to understand. It has gone 2,000 years, and people still don't get it. People are still under the law of sin.
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Best translation to sing the Psalms

So I'm rather curious about something. I know the Psalms are not entirely made up of songs that would be sung, some are prayers and such. But I'm starting this process of writing music for them and I'm curious what translation you think would be best (or easiest) to sing them from?

I'd imagine something similar to the KJV would do for fluidity and such, but just curious.

Any new translations?

I'm always interested in new translations of the scriptures, so I'm just curious if anyone knows of any new translations that are in the works. As far as I'm aware (which isn't far granted) the Legacy Standard Bible is the newest translation and even that isn't necessarily a "new" translation, but a revision I guess of the NASB.

God's Increase-The Fruit of Righteousness

Growing In Him! God brings the increase...

Colossians 2::19 Holding fast to the Head, from whom all the body, nourished and knit together by joints and ligaments,
grows with the increase that is from God.

1 Corinthians 3:7
So then neither he who plants is anything, nor he who waters, but God who gives the increase.

John 3:30 He must increase, but I must decrease.

Ephesians 4:
15
But speaking the truth in love, may grow up into him in all things, which is the head, even Christ:
16 From whom the whole body fitly joined together and compacted by that which every joint supplies,
according to the effectual working in the measure of every part, making an increase of the body
unto the edifying of itself in love.



2 Corinthians 9:
8 And God is able to make all grace abound toward you, that you, always having all sufficiency in all things,
may have an abundance for every good work.
9 As it is written: “He has dispersed abroad, He has given to the poor; His righteousness endures forever.”
10 Now may He who supplies seed to the sower, and bread for food, supply and multiply the seed you have sown
and increase the fruits of your righteousness,
11 while you are enriched in everything for all liberality, which causes thanksgiving through us to God.



1 Thessalonians 4:
9 But concerning brotherly love you have no need that I should write to you,
for you yourselves are taught by God to love one another;
10 and indeed you do so toward all the brethren who are in all Macedonia.
But we urge you, brethren, that you increase more and more;
11 that you also aspire to lead a quiet life, to mind your own business,
and to work with your own hands, as we commanded you,
12 that you may walk properly toward those who are outside, and that you may lack nothing.


James 3:18 Now the fruit of righteousness is sown in peace by those who make peace.

Who is Lord of Your Life?

Luke 16:10-15 ESV

“One who is faithful in a very little is also faithful in much, and one who is dishonest in a very little is also dishonest in much. If then you have not been faithful in the unrighteous wealth, who will entrust to you the true riches? And if you have not been faithful in that which is another's, who will give you that which is your own? No servant can serve two masters, for either he will hate the one and love the other, or he will be devoted to the one and despise the other. You cannot serve God and money.”
“The Pharisees, who were lovers of money, heard all these things, and they ridiculed him. And he said to them, ‘You are those who justify yourselves before men, but God knows your hearts. For what is exalted among men is an abomination in the sight of God.’”

Before I get into the meat of this subject I first of all want to say that this word, translated as “money,” in the Greek is “mammonas” or mammon, and it means “the treasure a person trusts in” (source: biblehub.com interlinear). So this isn’t just about money or wealth or physical possessions, but it has to do with what one treasures in his own heart, which can be many different things. And we know that what is stored up in our hearts comes out in our attitudes, thinking, words, and behaviors (Luke 6:45; Matthew 15:17-20).

So this is also about what one worships as his own god. It is about who is truly master of his life. Is God truly owner-master of his life, or is he his own lord and master, making his own decisions for how he wants to live his life? What is the treasure that he trusts in? It may not be material wealth at all. It could be pride, selfishness, the lusts of the flesh, resentment, bitterness, unforgiveness, sexual idolatry, lying, cheating, and the like. Or it could be God and moral purity, honesty, faithfulness and obedience to the Lord.

Now this goes to a person’s character, doesn’t it? For that is what is in this first sentence: “One who is faithful in a very little is also faithful in much, and one who is dishonest in a very little is also dishonest in much.” So the person is either a faithful person in practice or he is a dishonest person in practice, because this is his character and it comes from the treasure which is stored up in his heart in which he trusts. For we aren’t what we say we are. We are who we are in practice (habit, routine).

Now a lot of people, at least here in America, are professing faith in Jesus Christ and they are verbally professing Christ as Lord and as Savior of their lives. But it seems not many of them are living, in practice, what they profess with their lips. Not many are faithful to the calling of God over their lives, but it seems the majority have bought into a very diluted and altered gospel message which promises them heaven when they die regardless of how they live their lives on this earth. And that is just wrong!

So, they have been entrusted with the gospel of our salvation to live the life they profess, but it seems not many are being faithful to the Lord and to his will and purpose for their lives. So many professers of faith in Jesus Christ are not putting their trust in the Lord and in his word, but the treasure they trust in are all the trappings of this world. So they are living worldly and not godly lives, and they are living for the flesh, and not for God, and they are doing what they want to do even if it opposes God and his word.

And this is because they don’t take God and his word seriously. They don’t really believe God and what he says or they wouldn’t live like many of them do, still for the lusts of the flesh and for the pride of life. For if they really believed God and his word it would put within them the fear of God and they would prostrate themselves before the Lord in true humility and they would surrender their lives to Jesus Christ and they would walk with integrity in living holy and righteous lives in obedience to the Lord, and not in sin.

But the Scriptures make it quite clear that we can’t serve God with our lives and serve the desires of the flesh, too. We must now walk (in conduct, in practice) no longer according to the flesh, but according to the Spirit, and no longer in sin, but in walks of obedience to our Lord in holy living. For if we hold on to our old lives of living in sin and for the flesh, we will lose them for eternity. But if for the sake of Jesus we die to our old lives of living in sin and for the flesh, and we now live for him, we have eternal life with God.

[Matt 7:21-23; Matt 24:9-14; Lu 9:23-26; Rom 1:18-32; Rom 2:6-8; Rom 6:1-23; Rom 8:1-14,24; Rom 12:1-2; Rom 13:11; 1 Co 6:9-10,19-20; 2 Co 5:10,15,21; 1 Co 1:18; 1 Co 15:1-2; 2 Tim 1:8-9; Heb 9:28; 1 Pet 1:5; Gal 5:16-21; Gal 6:7-8; Eph 2:8-10; Eph 4:17-32; Eph 5:3-6; Col 1:21-23; Col 3:5-17; 1 Pet 2:24; Tit 2:11-14; 1 Jn 1:5-9; 1 Jn 2:3-6,24-25; 1 Jn 3:4-10; Heb 3:6,14-15; Heb 10:23-31; Heb 12:1-2; Rev 21:8,27; Rev 22:14-15]

Seek the Lord

An Original Work / July 20, 2012
Based off Isaiah 55


“Come to Me all you who thirst; come to waters.
Listen to Me, and eat what’s good today,
And your soul will delight in richest of fare.
Give ear to Me, and you will live.
I have made an eternal covenant with you.
Wash in the blood of the Lamb.”

Seek the Lord while He may be found; call on Him.
Let the wicked forsake his way, in truth.
Let him turn to the Lord, and he will receive mercy.
Freely, God pardons him.
“For My thoughts are not your thoughts,
Nor are your ways My ways,”
declares the Lord, our God.

“My word that goes out of My mouth is truthful.
It will not return to Me unfulfilled.
My word will accomplish all that I desire,
And achieve the goal I intend.
You will go in joy and be led forth in peace.
The mountains will burst into song… before you,
And all of the trees clap their hands.”

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WHY DO WE HAVE A MYSTERY /

There all many mysteries in the bible , like in Matthew .

One, because this mystery was hidden in God before the foundation of the world , Eph 1:4 .

Rom 16:25 reads #1 TO HIM THAT / HO is a DEFINITE ARTICILE , in the DATIVE CASE , and in the SINGULAR .

#2 IS OF POWER / DYHAMAI is the word where we get the word DYNAMITE is in the PRESENT TENSE and this dynamite to available to all people that are saved by GRACE .

#3 TO STABLISH / STERIZO is in the AORIST TENSE , means already available

#4 YOU / HYMAS , is a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONUN , means to you PERSONALLY , in the ACCUSSATIVE CASE , in the PLURAL , and means all believers .

#5 TO MY / MOU is also a PERSONAL POSSESSIVE PRONOUN , but in the GENTIVE CASE , but SINGULAR .

#6 What is given to US , THE GOSPEL / EUANGELION is the ACCUSATIVE CASE and SINGULAR in other word , just one GOSPEL , called GOSPEL OF THE GRACE OF GOD .

#7 And this gospel is called the REVELATION OF THE MYSTERY / MYSTERION in the GENITIVE CASE and SINGULAR AND NEUTER , and to Male and Female .

#8 This a a BIGGEE , WHICH WAS KEPT SECRET / SIGAO which is in the Greek PERFECT TENSE , PASSIVE VOICE , and in the GENITIVE CASE and SINGULAR . and why these verse is a STUMMBLING BLOCK to many .

#9 Was kept silent in time PERTAINING TO THE AGES / AIONIOS , in the ATIVE CASE , and in the PLURAL .


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Fresh atop the IANAL [I am not a lawyer] files: How does our justice system work?

I’m starting to see a trend in the (seemingly) endless stream of “normal workings of government” being turned into scandal.

Not the latest (by any means) but the “Suspicious Activity Reports” that banks are required by law are required fo produce, are now being waved around as “evidence” that the Bidens are crooked!

They very might well be*, but not by this “evidence”.
This is normal paperwork of the banking industry and the federal government.
Waving it around to convince the people to make sure the good gentlepeople demand that congress (the House ATM), “investigate for evidence of a crime!”, ain’t how our system works.
There has to be evidence of a crime being committed at some previous point in time or at present.

Asking “Are these normally-generated reports evidence of a crime?

No.
No it doesn’t “work that way”; there have to be specific anomalies within the SARs that could indicate felonious activity. You know, “normal”.

Looking to make political hay over “normal things” is what people do, when they can’t find anything better.

Everything is normal=scandal!

We can stop this, tout de suite, and realign with how our Justice system works?
Let’s give that a try?

*Joe rode the train home for thirty years because he was playing the long-game, riiight.

Professor Makes Suggestion of the Year


So a professor has the great and totally unexpected, unpredictable, idea to help remove "bigotry" in your children. Showing them a variety of penises and vaginas in class.

An activist University of British Columbia professor is under fire for claiming young children should be exposed to adult genitals — to prepare them for seeing naked trans people.

In her response, the academic sniffed: “Hey, want to know one of my all-time excellent parenting ideas? Let. Little. Children. See. Penises. And. Vulvas. Of. Various. Ages. And. Sizes. In. A. Casual. Normalized. Totally. Safe. Way.”


Personally, I think we should teach kids to run from people exposing genitalia to them, scream for help, and try to find an adult who isn't a sexual deviant to tell.

I don't have to wonder what's wrong with the teacher.


1. They're part of an activist group with an unhealthy obsession with sexualizing children under the guise of education.

2. They don't care who they hurt, permanently damage, put in harm's way, or psychologically scar for life...as long as it gets them whatever they want.

I'm more curious about those still supporting them. Do you know the difference between a slippery slope and a slippery slope fallacy? If people at least partially blocked their efforts to show genitalia to children in cartoonish children's books and now they want to just show kids the real deal until they're desensitized to it...which one do you think you're on?

A slippery slope?

Or an activist movement that has something to do with "rights"?

More Clarence Thomas 'gifts' from billionaires uncovered

If the GOP is actually oncerned about bribery, they seem to be ignoring obvious examples right in front of them:

Dems revive calls for Clarence Thomas resignation after new report

Democratic lawmakers revived their calls for Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas to resign from his position Thursday after a new ProPublica report revealed he had taken more unreported luxury vacations funded by billionaires than was previously known.

“Justice Thomas has brought shame upon himself and the United States Supreme Court with his acceptance of massive, repeated and undisclosed gifts,” Rep. Ted Lieu (D-Calif.) said on X, formerly known as Twitter. “No government official, elected or unelected, could ethically or legally accept gifts of that scale. He should resign immediately.”

As the high court continues to see record-low public approval and a Democratic-led effort to impose ethics reforms, ProPublica reported Thursday that wealthy benefactors have gifted Thomas at least 38 destination vacations, 26 private jet flights, multiple VIP passes to sporting events and two resort stays during his time on the court — a higher number of billionaire benefactors than was previously reported. Ethics experts, ProPublica reported, said the failure to disclose travel and sports could amount to a legal violation.

How does one forgive oneself?

by forgiving everyone else.

The Father forgives you if and only if you forgive others.

If you refuse to forgive someone, then ask yourself: Do you have the Paraclete in you?

If you have forgiven others who sinned against you, then the Father has forgiven you.

If the Father has forgiven you, then you can forgive yourself, unless, of course, you hold a higher standard than God.

No need to focus on yourself. Focus on God and others.

Admission Free, but Churches Empty. Dreams and Realities of a Pontificate on the Wane

The Church “does not have doors”, and therefore everyone can come in, but truly “everyone, everyone, everyone, without any exclusion.” This is the message on which Pope Francis insisted most during his travel to Lisbon, in the run-up to a synod that – in its “Instrumentum laboris” – puts at the top of the list of those invited to enter “the divorced and remarried, people in polygamous marriages, or LGBTQ+ Catholics.”

But meanwhile in Italy, where Francis is bishop of Rome and primate, the churches are emptying out. An in-depth survey conducted for the magazine “Il Timone” by Euromedia Research has determined that today only 58.4 percent of Italian citizens over the age of 18 identify themselves as “Catholics,” as opposed to the 37 percent who are “non-believers.” And those who go to Mass on Sundays are just 13.8 percent of the population, mostly over 45, with even lower numbers in Lombardy and Veneto, the regions that have been the historic stronghold of the Italian “Catholic world.”

Not only that. Even among “practicing” Catholics, those who go to Mass once or more a month, just one out of three recognizes in the Eucharist “the real body of Christ,” while the others reduce it to a vague “symbol” or a “commemoration of the bread of the last supper.” And also just one in three are those who go to confession at least once a year, still convinced that it is a sacrament for the “remission of sins.” It comes as no surprise that the Benedictine theologian Elmar Salmann should have said in a June 14 interview with “L’Osservatore Romano” that even more concerning for him than the number of the faithful is the decline of sacramental practice, which “is about to go under.”

A decline that is accompanied by a conspicuous yielding to the “spirit of the time” in the fields of doctrine and morality. 43.8 percent of practicing Catholics consider abortion a right, 41.6 percent believe it is right to allow homosexual marriages, 61.8 percent deny that divorce is a sin, 71.6 percent approve contraception. A certain resistance is seen only with regard to the surrogate womb, with two thirds of the practicing opposed.

But if this is the reality of the facts, what could be the effect of the persistent invitation to welcome into the Church “everyone, everyone, everyone,” that is, even none other than “the divorced and remarried, people in polygamous marriages, or LGBTQ+ Catholics,” who according to what the Church has always taught “cannot receive all the sacraments?”

This is the question that Anita Hirschbeck, of the “Katholische Nachrichten-Agentur,” posed to the pope at the press conference on the flight back from Lisbon on August 6.

Francis replied that yes, everyone must be welcomed into the Church, “ugly and beautiful, good and bad,” including homosexuals. But “ministeriality in the Church is another thing, which is the way of moving the flock forward, and one of the important things is, in ministeriality, accompanying people step by step on their way of maturation… The Church is mother, she receives everyone, and each one makes his way within the Church.”

Thus stated, this response from the pope hits the brakes on the course of the “synodal way” of Germany, but not of it alone, toward a revolution in the Church’s doctrine on sexuality.

And it is an answer entirely in line, instead, with what is written in the much more solid “Pastoral letter on human sexuality” published by the bishops of Scandinavia last Lent: “It may happen that circumstances make a Catholic unable, for a time, to receive the sacraments. He or she does not therefore cease to be a member of the Church. Experience of internal exile embraced in faith can lead to a deeper sense of belonging.”

But it should be noted that Francis does not always speak and act consistently on these issues.

The blessing of same-sex couples, for example, although prohibited – with the pope’s written agreement – by the dicastery for the doctrine of the faith headed by Cardinal Luis Francisco Ladaria Ferrer, has in fact been approved by Francis himself on several occasions.

And now that Ladaria will be succeeded by Victor Manuel Fernández, the controversial Argentine theologian favored by Jorge Mario Bergoglio, it can be taken as assured that the time of the guardians of doctrine “who point and condemn” is over, replaced with a new, irenic program of “harmonious growth” between “differing currents of thought in philosophy, theology, and pastoral practice,” which “will preserve Christian doctrine more effectively than any control mechanism,” as stated in the unusual letter from the pope that accompanied the appointment of the new prefect.

Continued below.

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