Wondering if you can give me some good reasons why masturbation is a bad thing.

[Danyc]

I have mixed feelings on it honestly. It feels like it is sinful in a way, because its a choice to put God on the back burner for a few minutes while taking care of some carnal desires. I don't know about you personally but when I am really into the things of God, at that moment in time it makes any type of sexual desire disappear.

I think this falls under the category "not sure" , so I just pray for wisdom and understanding and forgiveness for my lack thereof.

Change carnal to gluttonous, and then eating is sinful.

I mean, what else do we do that puts God on the back-burner? I could probably name a hundred things. Heck, for most of us, God is constantly on the back-burner. It's not good, but it's true for a lot of people. All they see of God is in church. And we don't usually think of those things as sinful.If we looked at it like that, then doing anything pleasurable while not thinking of God could be sinful, like listening to music or having a bowl of ice cream.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Change carnal to gluttonous, and then eating is sinful.

I mean, what else do we do that puts God on the back-burner? I could probably name a hundred things. Heck, for most of us, God is constantly on the back-burner. It's not good, but it's true for a lot of people. All they see of God is in church. And we don't usually think of those things as sinful.If we looked at it like that, then doing anything pleasurable while not thinking of God could be sinful, like listening to music or having a bowl of ice cream.

You can generalize it if you wish, I just put my opinion forth from conviction when the issue arises. Many things can be done for the glory of God, whether it be our jobs, our relationships, or whatever. I just don't feel like its appropriate to assign that to masturbation. I don't give thanks for it either like we do before our meals lol

 

[EnemyPartyII]

You can generalize it if you wish, I just put my opinion forth from conviction when the issue arises. Many things can be done for the glory of God, whether it be our jobs, our relationships, or whatever. I just don't feel like its appropriate to assign that to masturbation. I don't give thanks for it either like we do before our meals lol

Why not?

You don't give thanks to God for something pleasureable???

How... gauche of you!

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Why not?

You don't give thanks to God for something pleasureable???

How... gauche of you!

I don't give thanks to God if I hit someone who gets on my nerves either, although at the time it is pleasurable. I didn't give thanks to God for letting me inhale a 12 pack in one sitting back when I used to drink, either. Those are both pleasurable things, but the key is whether it is pleasing to God, or not.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I don't give thanks to God if I hit someone who gets on my nerves either, although at the time it is pleasurable. I didn't give thanks to God for letting me inhale a 12 pack in one sitting back when I used to drink, either. Those are both pleasurable things, but the key is whether it is pleasing to God, or not.

Um... hitting someone harms someone else, and a 12 pack in one sitting may be harmful to you, so I can see why God wouldn't necesarily cheer them on... but whats wrong with masturbation?

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Um... hitting someone harms someone else, and a 12 pack in one sitting may be harmful to you, so I can see why God wouldn't necesarily cheer them on... but whats wrong with masturbation?

Okay, guess i need to use a better example. Cursing God harms no one, and if I'm angry at the moment then it feels good also, but does that make it okay?

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Okay, guess i need to use a better example. Cursing God harms no one, and if I'm angry at the moment then it feels good also, but does that make it okay?

Its disrespectful to God though, and its hardly comparable to masturbation in terms of either pleasure or the relief generated... and I don't think God cares to be disrespected, so no, I don't think thats OK.

But I don't see how masturbation could be disrespectful to God, so... um... next example?

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Its disrespectful to God though, and its hardly comparable to masturbation in terms of either pleasure or the relief generated... and I don't think God cares to be disrespected, so no, I don't think thats OK.

But I don't see how masturbation could be disrespectful to God, so... um... next example?

Okay, the only thing I can think of as of yet is that for a male, induced [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] releases sperm which in turn could decrease odds of conception. Of course there are several underlying factors in this, but its the only thing I've come up with so far.

Once again I'm not stating this as biblical fact, but merely my own opinion and experience. I live my life guided by the Spirit, and I can tell when the Spirit is with me and when It isn't, and when masturbation comes up, I don't feel the Spirit with me at all. Sorry, thats all I got

 

[EnemyPartyII]

Okay, the only thing I can think of as of yet is that for a male, induced [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] releases sperm which in turn could decrease odds of conception. Of course there are several underlying factors in this, but its the only thing I've come up with so far.

Once again I'm not stating this as biblical fact, but merely my own opinion and experience. I live my life guided by the Spirit, and I can tell when the Spirit is with me and when It isn't, and when masturbation comes up, I don't feel the Spirit with me at all. Sorry, thats all I got

Um... are you saying that a man who masturbates is less fertile than a man who doesn't?

Have you got a source to back up this idea?

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

thats why I said there were several other factors leading up to that conclusion. One of which is assuming the man has heterosexual intercourse shortly after [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. Less sperm= less odds of conception

 

[EnemyPartyII]

thats why I said there were several other factors leading up to that conclusion. One of which is assuming the man has heterosexual intercourse shortly after [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse]. Less sperm= less odds of conception

yeah... um, I don't think thats accurate... in fact, I'm pretty sure that there are studies that show men are capable of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] a fully potent seminal vlume several times in short succession... I'm not going to claim it as a fact, but I'm sure I've read it somewhere... "4" times seems to ring a bell...

but thats rather an... unusual scenario... surely the VAST majority of masturbation occurs a significant period away from sex... thats sort of the whole point?

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

yeah... um, I don't think thats accurate... in fact, I'm pretty sure that there are studies that show men are capable of [bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse][bless and do not curse] a fully potent seminal vlume several times in short succession... I'm not going to claim it as a fact, but I'm sure I've read it somewhere... "4" times seems to ring a bell...

but thats rather an... unusual scenario... surely the VAST majority of masturbation occurs a significant period away from sex... thats sort of the whole point?

I was only giving a potential scenario, and personal experience. Not sure why this is dragging out, I don't have a biblical basis on the belief other than that the process in itself is self-fueled and self-motivated.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

I was only giving a potential scenario, and personal experience. Not sure why this is dragging out, I don't have a biblical basis on the belief other than that the process in itself is self-fueled and self-motivated.

Um... aren't most human activities self fuelled and self motivated?

Take... eating, for example... or breathing...

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

Um... aren't most human activities self fuelled and self motivated?

Take... eating, for example... or breathing...

Eating and drinking are both required to live, sexual action is not.

 

[FLANDIDLYANDERS]

Eating and drinking are both required to live, sexual action is not.

So we are to partake only of that which is required to exist? Sex is part of life, eating and drinking are part of existence. God gives us life not merely existence.

 

[EnemyPartyII]

So we are to partake only of that which is required to exist? Sex is part of life, eating and drinking are part of existence. God gives us life not merely existence.

what he said

 

[Gukkor]

what he said

What she agreed with.

 

[Sam48]

It's not bad on it's own but usually you fantasise about a famous person or a friend etc. and that is like 'sex~in thought, outside marriage.

So if you can fantasise about a book outta a character, where you are married there's no problem.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

So we are to partake only of that which is required to exist? Sex is part of life, eating and drinking are part of existence. God gives us life not merely existence.

God gives us life, life that He wants us to serve Him with. If you want to place sexuality even remotely near a level of serving God, then you have that right.

 

[Jet_A_Jockey]

and yes I believe God gave us sexuality for reproduction, not to appease ourselves. Does this mean i am celibate between child-making? No, but I still believe this is God's intention with regards to sexuality.