I might keep silent in the church...but that does not mean I keep silent.If I feel led to talk of the things of the Lord with a man or a woman...I will SPEAK!
Sounds reasonable. It doesn't fly in the face of established doctrine necessarily, and seems logical
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TamaraLynne
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This is a place of fellowship...if women were to be silent then this board should be for men only.
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Somebody is going to argue that this isn't church.
We are ALWAYS in Church. Our bodies are our Churches.
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I find that as we grow older we can get wiser. It takes maturity to be a teacher, we must first learn to obey before we can teach others to do the same.
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Agreed, i think its mostly Church rules that is the issue, most men and women at CF learn from each other i think. Some just don't want to change what Paul has established, im one of them. But i respect women and i learn from women who are older than i am, i respect my elders, i try anyway. I'll learn from anyone who teaches properly, in love and truth.
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There's nothing you can "teach" me on the situation because what you would teach is false.
Lol. If God leads me to find that I'm wrong, I'll let you know; God willing.
But I'm not, so...PEACE! God bless.
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razeontherock
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Then you're certainly using the word differently than I am, and in a way I've never seen it used. I don't think it has to do with teaching anybody anything, I think these two passages are talking about distinct things. I don't think anyone can show otherwise.
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TamaraLynne
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I don't mind if men teach...I'm a bit shy anyways but if I ever feel the need to speak I will speak...but I will not be rude in church by speaking out...that would be like not raising my hand to speak in school. I don't see women speaking out of turn in church...I think we got the message .
but if I ever feel the need to speak I will speak...but I will not be rude in church by speaking out...that would be like not raising my hand to speak in school. I don't see women speaking out of turn in church...I think we got the message .
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I agree with the comment above. There's a pretty good chance that this was a house church, not a building like a synagogue with that kind of formal structure. So I wouldn't want to bet too much on this interpretation.
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razeontherock
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I go further than your previous post; the women not speaking in
Church thing was in a specific setting, and context. Nobody should be out of order, which has nothing to do with male or female. This is also distinct from the ordaining women issue.
Keeping it simple, I don't see any way to apply that particular verse (of the OP / thread title) today, as it originally applied to the Church.
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Hang in there sister, just a little turbulence. We'll all get there together.
It's impossible to let go, brother. Thanks for the encouragement.
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We still haven't got passed the fact that the apostles only gave rules governing bishops and deacons for men. There are no rules for women other than rules for a bishop or deacons wife. And not all men can be bishops or deacons either, thats what the rules are for, to tell us who we can appoint to those positions.
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razeontherock
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See, now this is something where I wouldn't mind at all having someone teach me, regardless if they are male or female, younger or older. It strikes me that you have something good here, and I don't know what that is or how you mean it. Sure, anything any of us can say, someone will come along and take it the wrong way, with all sorts of odd consequences. In pretty much all those situations, I've been able to more than merely make peace with such an individual, but come to see things eye to eye, benefitting us both, and those around us. (Some may still be in that process, and others are hard-core atheists)
When you're up for it, have a go?
Ray
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TamaraLynne
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Yes...back in the day....women knew nothing...that is why Mary sat at the feet of Jesus...she was so hungry for the things of God...what she did by sitting at his feet and listening..was not allowed back in those days.
The women in the church were also not knowledgeable of the things of God...they had many Questions....they were not exactely sitting at the feet of Jesus...listening....they had much to learn back then. Soooo they had many questions.
The women in the church were also not knowledgeable of the things of God...they had many Questions....they were not exactely sitting at the feet of Jesus...listening....they had much to learn back then. Soooo they had many questions.
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