JimfromOhio said:
Reasonings: Christianity today is so entangled with "reasonings". Only that which is born by the Holy Spirit is spirit, no matter how much Christians are relying on "outward" activities. When a Christian joins up with the traditional view of "LAW", we are placing ourselves outside Grace. Philippians 3:3 For it is we who are the circumcision, we who worship by the Spirit of God, who glory in Christ Jesus, and who put no confidence in the flesh. Philippians 3:4-6 "If anyone else thinks he has reasons to put confidence in the flesh, I have more: circumcised on the eighth day, of the people of Israel, of the tribe of Benjamin, a Hebrew of Hebrews; in regard to the law, a Pharisee; as for zeal, persecuting the church; as for legalistic righteousness, faultless."
It appears that (reading this thread and other threads) that everything is based on "visible" because people are looking at situation based on external elements of doctrines rather than internal and spiritual. The word "visible" is closely related to "legalism". Each of us can always trust the Holy Spirit in our lives and experiences, but we have to be careful no to trust our human reasoning and our fleshly conclusions based on visible activities. There is a great concern about people who talks too much about our relationship with faith and not enough about our relationship with Jesus. There are Christians whose experience does not follow a true inner longing to be more like Jesus.
Another big differences is that we show verses that Sabbath can be followed: I will repeat the verses... you can ask bible publishers to remove these verses. "Let no man judge you...regarding...sabbaths" (Colossians 2:16).
In Romans 14:5-6: "One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it."
"Therefore do not let anyone judge you by what you eat or drink or with regard to a religious festival, a New Moon celebration or a Sabbath day. These are a shadow of the things that were to come; the reality, however,is found in Christ"(Colossians 2:15-17)
Holiness is "I can do everything through him who gives me strength." (Philippians 4:13) regardless what happens in our personal situations. Holiness is giving ourselves to Christ (see Romans 12:1-2). God has given the Holy Spirit to enable us to have a holy relationship with our Father.
I'm not sure I understood the first half of your post, but I managed to understand enough to make a comment on it.
I agree with Cliff. We have a couple of verses, which
could be pointing towards us not having to keep the sabbath.
Yet we have
over 150 (I'd say likely more) verses which clearly
clearly state honour the
seventh day and keep it holy.
Now, in the bible, there are verses which seem to indicate that hell is everlasting fire by using the word "eternal". However, if we look elsewhere in the bible, then we can see "eternal" is in the other cases (and its used a lot outside of those verses that don't talk about hell) and it doesn't mean everlasting. Now, this would explain the overwhelming verses which state the evil don't burn forever, they are destroyed by fire. By looking at the verse in context with the rest of the bible, we can make sense.
Now, the bible doesn't contridict itself right?
Well, there are overwhelming number of verses which clearly state the sabbath is saturday and should be kept holy. Yet, we have a couple of verses which
might state otherwise. Obviously, the bible must be in harmony with each other.
So, what do you do? Well, simple, we try and put the verses in context.
The verses you quoted:
[bible]Romans 14:5-6[/bible]
Look at the chapter. Its all on judging people (Verses 4, 10, 13).
The issue wasn't over the moral law, but over the cerimonial laws. The cerimonial sabbaths. The Jwish christians were judging the gentiles for not keeping these. Paul was telling them to stop it, because those laws are no longer binding.
[bible]Colossians 2:15-17[/bible]
This merely is talking about the sabbaths that were a "shadow of things to come." There were seven yearly Holy days, or if you prefer, "holidays" in Ancient Israel which were called sabbaths. There were in
addition to the Seventh day sabbath, as shown by this verse:
[bible]Leviticus 23:38[/bible]
