Why worry about global warming?

[Nostromo]

Some also ran without a religion tee shirt? Wow. Fact is that no wars were started by Jesus, or me. How about Mao, or Stalin, or Lenin, or Trotsky, or Attila the hun..etc?

Yeah, the 'also ran' on the left:

 

[AV1611VET]

I'm not sure if global warming exists or not, but Al Gore seems to think it does.

Who cares?

He's probably right though, cause it would fit in with the bible.

Sounds good to me.

The rapture is coming.

AMEN!

We shouldn't worry tho because Jesus is going to take all the believers to heaven.

AMEN!

Why can't science understand this?

Because science, which is myopic in the first place, walks by sight; and God set it up that it is through faith we will properly understand God's creation.

Hebrews 11:3 Through faith we understand that the worlds were framed by the word of God, so that things which are seen were not made of things which do appear.

It don't matter if the planet dies because there will be noone left on it!

Er ... no.

Following the Rapture, we will come back 7 years later to rule & reign with Jesus Christ on the earth for 1000 years.

Isaiah 9 says ...

Isaiah 9:6 For unto us a child is born, unto us a son is given: and the government shall be upon his shoulder: and his name shall be called Wonderful, Counsellor, The mighty God, The everlasting Father, The Prince of Peace.

Jesus has yet to fulfill this prophecy, and will do so in His millennial reign.

 

[Tinker Grey]

He was jewish and one of the people forced out of Germany.

"The highest principles for our aspirations and judgements are given to us in the Jewish-Christian religious tradition. " Einstein

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

Einstein -- Letter to philosopher Eric Gutkind, January 3, 1954

 

[dad]

Nor will anybody else.

Thanks for prophesying.

 

[dad]

Yeah, the 'also ran' on the left:

OK, so it looks like the guy existed. I think your point is that he had no stated religion?

 

[Jazer]

"The word god is for me nothing more than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle can (for me) change this."

Yes the Bible contains a collection of stories written mostly for children. Yet we can still apply them to our lives as adults. Lots of people are inspired that little David can take on the giant. So we know that we can handle whatever problems come our way no matter how much of a giant they may seem to be. We know the story of Samson and his girlfriend and all the problems she caused him. In fact he ended up in slavery because of her. His parents tried to warn him, but he just would not listen to them and so he had to suffer the consequences. Lots and lots of stories written for children, yet they can appy to us as adults also.

 

[Chalnoth]

Yes the Bible contains a collection of stories written mostly for children. Yet we can still apply them to our lives as adults. Lots of people are inspired that little David can take on the giant. So we know that we can handle whatever problems come our way no matter how much of a giant they may seem to be. We know the story of Samson and his girlfriend and all the problems she caused him. In fact he ended up in slavery because of her. His parents tried to warn him, but he just would not listen to them and so he had to suffer the consequences. Lots and lots of stories written for children, yet they can appy to us as adults also.

Yes, we know, the story of the Bible is that men are great and can do anything and women are evil and should be repressed at all costs.

 

[AV1611VET]

Yes, we know, the story of the Bible is that men are great and can do anything and women are evil and should be repressed at all costs.

We know one of you guys' versions too.

How "men" clubbed their women over the head, dragged them home by their hair and made them their wives.

 

[Chalnoth]

We know one of you guys' versions too.

How "men" clubbed their women over the head, dragged them home by their hair and made them their wives.

Sorry, but personally I don't get my beliefs from Saturday morning cartoons.

 

[Jazer]

Yes, we know, the story of the Bible is that men are great and can do anything and women are evil and should be repressed at all costs.

Really? Perhaps you would like to tell us some more about these evil women in the Bible that you know all about.

 

[AV1611VET]

Sorry, but personally I don't get my beliefs from Saturday morning cartoons.

Perhaps Saturday morning cartoons got them from science?

 

[Chalnoth]

Really? Perhaps you would like to tell us some more about these evil women in the Bible that you know all about.

Well, you listed one example. Here's another: Eve. According to the interpretation of many Christians, including the Catholics, she did bring sin into the world, and her decision to eat that fruit is the entire reason why we need saving in the first place.

 

[AV1611VET]

Well, you listed one example. Here's another: Eve. According to the interpretation of many Christians, including the Catholics, she did bring sin into the world, and her decision to eat that fruit is the entire reason why we need saving in the first place.

Nope -- Adam gets the credit for that:

Romans 5:12 Wherefore, as by one man sin entered into the world, and death by sin; and so death passed upon all men, for that all have sinned:

So much for your theory,* eh?

* Yes, we know, the story of the Bible is that men are great and can do anything and women are evil and should be repressed at all costs.

 

[Jazer]

she did bring sin into the world,

Eve was deceived. Adam sinned in full knowledge of the truth. That is why women are not to pastor a church. It was a women that brought Jesus into the world. To pay the price for Adam's sin.

2 cor 11 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

"Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety." 1 Tim 2:15

 

[Chalnoth]

Eve was deceived. Adam sinned in full knowledge of the truth. That is why women are not to pastor a church. It was a women that brought Jesus into the world. To pay the price for Adam's sin.

2 cor 11 3 But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ.

"Notwithstanding she shall be saved in childbearing, if they continue in faith and charity and holiness with sobriety." 1 Tim 2:15

Oooooh, so they're not evil. They're just stupid. That's soooo much better...

 

[mzungu]

Some also ran without a religion tee shirt? Wow. Fact is that no wars were started by Jesus, or me. How about Mao, or Stalin, or Lenin, or Trotsky, or Attila the hun..etc?

Hey you forgot the Bush family; When it comes to warmongers they are top of the list!

 

[mzungu]

Really? Perhaps you would like to tell us some more about these evil women in the Bible that you know all about.

I don't know about evil women but evil disobedient children that should be put to death ring a bell?

 

[mzungu]

.....double post

 

[dad]

Hey you forgot the Bush family; When it comes to warmongers they are top of the list!

What about them?

 

[mzungu]

Really? Perhaps you would like to tell us some more about these evil women in the Bible that you know all about.

OKEY DOKEY:

Exodus 21:3-4 Says that if a male slave is given a wife by his master (regardless of how long they are wed, how much they love each other or if they have kids) he can not leave servant hood with his wife or children. The woman and children are merely property of the master and their personal happiness or sanctity of family doesn’t matter.
Exodus 21:7 God not only sanctions selling ones daughter into slavery, but he also gives out laws on how it should be done.
Exodus 21:10 God ordains men taking several wives and even sets up laws as to how multiple wives should be handled.
Leviticus 12:1-8 Explains that a woman has to be purified after giving birth because she is “unclean”. It goes on to say that birthing a male is cleaner then birthing a female, hence a mother must purify TWICE as long when having a daughter. This is BLATANT sexism from the point of birth. A woman is dirty simply for being a woman; this is obviously very biased and chauvinistic.
Leviticus 15:19-30 Explains that a woman having her menstruation must be avoided to the point of not even touching what she has touched. It is quite curious that women are punished for simply having a biological function that “God” claims to have created. What is so just about vilifying what you created?
Leviticus 18:19 Goes onto say that even LOOKING at a menstruating woman is wrong.
Leviticus 19:20 Says that if a man has sex with a slave or betrothed woman he must then “scourge” her. Scourging is a term for a severe flogging or whipping. I find it quite curious that the woman shall be punished to the point of a beating for such an occurrence, yet the man gets to go free for the deed.
Leviticus 21:9 Explains that unchaste daughters of priests must be burnt to death. What about his unchaste sons? Of course this isn’t even answered in the Torah, we are to assume yet again that men have the power to do as they wish and a woman must suffer the punishment for BOTH of them.
Leviticus 27:3-7 God places a monetary value on human life; with women worth less than men.
Numbers 1:2 Is the basis for the sexism that remains rampant today. In this verse Moses takes a poll of all the men who are able to fight in war, women aren’t even counted in the census. Apparently back then, just like today, us women are considered the weaker species and unable to battle. (Let’s not forget that during the time the Pentateuch was written women in Pagan cultures were FEARED and revered as the more powerful species. It is because of this patriarchal religion and it’s offshoots that we have been reduced to cowering sub-humans.)
Numbers 30:3-16 A woman can’t make a vow unless her husband allows it.
Numbers 31: 14-18 Moses tells his men to kill all the males, non-virginal women, elderly and children of the Midianite tribe. Of course, the virgin women are kept for raping. If you read later down in the scripture God states that the Jews can not even marry a Midianite woman (with exception to Moses). Hence these women who were captured were repeatedly raped and impregnated and they weren’t even allowed a marital status in which to protect them.
Deuteronomy 20:13-15 Kill all the men and boys in the cities that God “delivers into your hands,” but keep the women for raping.
Deuteronomy 21:11-14 If you see a pretty woman among the captives then just take her home and “go in unto her.”
Deuteronomy 22:5 Women that wear men’s clothing are an “abomination unto the Lord.”
Deuteronomy 22:13-22 Women, be sure to keep the tokens of your virginity. Otherwise the men of your city may stone you to death. This does not apply to men though, of course. What is interesting to note here is the actual wording, it says : “that if a man hateth his wife he may say she did not have the tokens of her virginity”. Since there is no way a woman can truly prove she had a hymen upon marriage the word rests on the husband and she can be disposed of simply when he tires of her.
Deuteronomy 22:23-24 is one of the most cruel and sexist passages of the Torah. It says that women who are raped and fail to “cry out loud” in a populated area are most likely enjoying the attack should be killed.
Deuteronomy 22:28-29 A rapist must buy his victim from her father for 50 shekels. Is this supposed to be some type of retribution? What about the victim here, what if she doesn’t want to marry a pig who raped her? All that matters is her father receives payment for his “property”.
Deuteronomy 25:11-12 Says that we must cut off a woman’s hand if she touches the “secrets” of a man who is fighting with her husband…“And thine eye shall not pity her.” Once again, there is no punishment for the man she touched, only the woman.