Why worry about global warming?

[Thistlethorn]

No, but I'd say if all the ice and snow on this planet melted today, the ocean level would be lower tomorrow.

Just an uneducated guess.

You guessed wrong.

 

[Thistlethorn]

Well, like I said, I'm surprised we're still here.

If just one of these doomsday scientists would have been correct, we'd be gone now.

What makes Y2K any different than Helter Skelter?

How many scientists did you hear proclaim doom and gloom for Y2K?

 

[canukian]

So NASA is misinforming people too? I saw a talk by an astronaut who's been up into space many times, and she said that she's seen the ice shelfs falling into the ocean. They've been monitoring it for some time now. What makes you qualified to claim she's just lying to somehow make environmental companies rich or something? That's just silly.

Report: Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking - Science News ...

East Antarctica is four times the size of west Antarctica and parts of it are cooling. The Scientific Committee on Antarctic Research report prepared for last week's meeting of Antarctic Treaty nations in Washington noted the South Pole had shown "significant cooling in recent decades."

 

[Belk]

Well, like I said, I'm surprised we're still here.

If just one of these doomsday scientists would have been correct, we'd be gone now.

What makes Y2K any different than Helter Skelter?

AV, do you have any idea how much money and man hours of labor went in to making sure Y2K would not be a disaster?

(BTW, it was the computer programers who where worried about Y2K, not scientists. Or do you just lump everything together as long as you can get your digs in?)

 

[AV1611VET]

How many scientists did you hear proclaim doom and gloom for Y2K?

None actually --- the media was all over it and would have buried any scientist who started that rumor.

Let me word this another way: As many scientists as I saw who tried to stop the hysteria.

In my opinion, there should have been some arrests made for inciting panic --- or attempting to.

 

[serenity2517]

No, but I'd say if all the ice and snow on this planet melted today, the ocean level would be lower tomorrow.

Just an uneducated guess.

That makes no sense at all! If you have a cup filled to the brim with water, and an ice cube sitting on top of it held up by a knife or something, and the ice melts, it's going to drip into the cup and cause it to overflow!!!! The ice shelfs are held up by land and if they melt or fall in, they'll only add to the water in the ocean.

 

[Cabal]

Report: Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking - Science News ...

Ah yes.

"The media and scientists are lying!!!1

...

"Except when they're not!!!!1"

 

[Cabal]

Well, like I said, I'm surprised we're still here.

If just one of these doomsday scientists would have been correct, we'd be gone now.

What makes Y2K any different than Helter Skelter?

For the n-th time, AV:

These were not doomsday scenarios. They were scenarios that could harm or even kill a significant number of people. I would say stopping that is a fairly good thing to do - maybe you're right and letting people die is the right thing to do, what do I know....

 

[serenity2517]

Climate Change: Key Indicators

 

[AV1611VET]

AV, do you have any idea how much money and man hours of labor went in to making sure Y2K would not be a disaster?

Here we go again --- same logic as with the Tiktaalik in the Donovan stones argument.

Disaster predicted --- avoidance techniques implemented --- no disaster = prediction justified.

Well, I predict there will be buckeyes found in Ohio, and no where else.

Guess what? There are buckeyes found in Ohio.

How do you know a disaster was averted, if the disaster wasn't real?

(BTW, it was the computer programers who where worried about Y2K, not scientists. Or do you just lump everything together as long as you can get your digs in?)

So the computer programmers went over the heads of the computer scientists?

 

[plindboe]

No

Then your glass analogy is invalid.

, but I'd say if all the ice and snow on this planet melted today, the ocean level would be lower tomorrow.

Just an uneducated guess.

The more ice that's bound on land, the lower the sea levels. This correlation has been observed throughout Earth history. Currently ice is melting and sea levels are rising.

Peter

 

[AV1611VET]

That makes no sense at all! If you have a cup filled to the brim with water, and an ice cube sitting on top of it held up by a knife or something, and the ice melts, it's going to drip into the cup and cause it to overflow!!!! The ice shelfs are held up by land and if they melt or fall in, they'll only add to the water in the ocean.

But icebergs melting elsewhere would be increasing the amount of space available for these ice shelfs to drip their contents.

For your analogy to be an accurate comparison, there should be more ice in the glass than ice above the glass, with both melting together.

 

[Cabal]

But icebergs melting elsewhere would be increasing the amount of space available for these ice shelfs to drip their contents.

For your analogy to be an accurate comparison, there should be more ice in the glass than ice above the glass, with both melting together.

And, y'know, water expanding when heated over 4 degrees.

 

[AV1611VET]

The more ice that's bound on land, the lower the sea levels. This correlation has been observed throughout Earth history. Currently ice is melting and sea levels are rising.

I'm talking about all the ice melting in a very short period of time --- not over decades.

Once again, should all the ice and snow on the planet melt today, the level of the ocean would be lower tomorrow.

In my opinion.

It's basic science.

 

[canukian]

Then your glass analogy is invalid.




The more ice that's bound on land, the lower the sea levels. This correlation has been observed throughout Earth history. Currently ice is melting and sea levels are rising.

Peter

the sea level is rising, the ice is melting, because of all the ice produced in the little ice age. nothing to do with man made warming.

 

[Thistlethorn]

Report: Antarctic Ice Growing, Not Shrinking - Science News ...

Have you read what that report actually says, rather than what Fox news says that it says?

I think this might explain what the scientists are actually saying?

This might also help you understand.

 

[Cabal]

the sea level is rising, the ice is melting, because of all the ice produced in the little ice age. nothing to do with man made warming.

Ice is melting now because of ice that formed thousands of years ago?

Ummm......

 

[AV1611VET]

And, y'know, water expanding when heated over 4 degrees.

Then why don't the doomsday scientists mention that, instead of whining about ice and snow melting?

My guess would be because it's easier to dupe the common man by showing a poor polar bear trapped on an ice floe, than it is to dupe him with a vapor chamber.

 

[Cabal]

I'm talking about all the ice melting in a very short period of time --- not over decades.

Once again, should all the ice and snow on the planet melt today, the level of the ocean would be lower tomorrow.

In my opinion.

It's basic science.

Well, that's nice.

We're not talking about an overnight melt, however.

And basic science. I like that. Like how water stops contracting when heated when it passes for 4 degree mark? Yay for basic science!

 

[canukian]

I'm talking about all the ice melting in a very short period of time --- not over decades.

Once again, should all the ice and snow on the planet melt today, the level of the ocean would be lower tomorrow.

In my opinion.

It's basic science.

80% of the worlds fresh water is on the continent of antartica, above sea level. if it melted yesterday the sea level will have risen alot.