WHY THE LORD'S DAY IS NOT SATURDAY

[BobRyan]

I don’t understand your question.

"third day" depends on context -- as already noted

Rather as Luke 24 states "today is the third day since all these things happened" rather than "The third day of the week". The context for the term -- matters.

Luke 24: 20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him. 21 But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.

Neither of these are a reference to Tuesday - the third day of the week. So we can't simply jump on every first day, or seventh day, or third day - reference when it can be in a context such as "third day since" or "seventh day of the feast" or "first day of the feast" etc.

context matters

 

[BobRyan]

BobRyan said: ↑
1. Neither Col 2 nor Rom 14 mentions the weekly Sabbath - unlike Acts 13, Acts 17 and Acts 18 which all do specifically mention it.

2. Matt 7 "judge not that you be not judged" is an OT rule at the time of Christ - unchanged in Col 2. Still the same rule.

Neither Rom 14 nor Col 2 is about ending or deleting any text of scripture.

Col 2 is specifically about avoiding man made traditions invented by humans as opposed to the actual Word of God.

That verse in Matthew 7 is about being a hypocrite.

Both Ezek 18 and Matt 7 deal with a saved person that then loses salvation. Just as in the case of Matt 18 where a fully forgiven person loses forgiveness.

He’s telling them not to judge others for doing things that they themselves do.

In Matt 7 Jesus does not say "you do the same things" rather he says "you have a log in your own eye" what the log is made of is not mentioned and does not matter since the point is that seeing a small sin in someone else vs having a large sin of your own to deal with - is the issue.

That same principle of not judging others is in both Matt 7 and Col 2.

 

[Lulav]

"Jesus" is now the Sabath.

When did that happen?
How does God become a day?

There are no particular days now.

So if your boss says you have to come to work on Monday how do you decide which day that is?

But there is also no condemnation for those who do observe special days.

But if there are no special days or particular days as you say then how can they be observed?

 

[BNR32FAN]

"third day" depends on context -- as already noted

Rather as Luke 24 states "today is the third day since all these things happened" rather than "The third day of the week". The context for the term -- matters.

Luke 24: 20 and how the chief priests and our rulers delivered Him to the sentence of death, and crucified Him. 21 But we were hoping that it was He who was going to redeem Israel. Indeed, besides all this, it is the third day since these things happened.

Neither of these are a reference to Tuesday - the third day of the week. So we can't simply jump on every first day, or seventh day, or third day - reference when it can be in a context such as "third day since" or "seventh day of the feast" or "first day of the feast" etc.

context matters

Your saying the exact same thing I have been saying all along. The term “the third day” does NOT refer to Tuesday.

I know that, that’s my whole point. The term “on the third day” does not refer to the third day of the week. It did not mean on Tuesday it meant the third day after His death.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Neither Rom 14 nor Col 2 is about ending or deleting any text of scripture.

All of the feast days were commanded by God, if Paul is saying that any of them are no longer necessary to be kept then that still means that a commandment of God has been abolished. Just like circumcision and animal sacrifices.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

All of the feast days were commanded by God, if Paul is saying that any of them are no longer necessary to be kept then that still means that a commandment of God has been abolished. Just like circumcision and animal sacrifices.

Why stop there- with this reasoning we can worship other gods, vain His holy name and bow to idols.
The Sabbath is part of a covenant of Ten Exodus 34:28 and wasn't part of the law of Moses of circumcision or animal sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin.

Paul contrasts these ceremonial laws from the commandments of God and this is his conclusion.

1 Cor 7:9 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God is what matters.

 

[ICONO'CLAST]

But if he was buried late in the day on Friday he would have risen late in the day on Monday. Jesus made it absolutely clear that he would be in the 'grave' for 72 hours.

There is no biblical evidence of Sunday being consecrated as "The Lord's Day", or for any special purpose for that matter.

The Lord's Day, or Day of the Lord, is when Christ returns, and brings 'smoke' (hurts people and breaks stuff).

So did that happen in rev1???

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

So did that happen in rev1???

10 I was in the Spirit on the Lord's day, and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,

11 Saying, I am Alpha and Omega, the first and the last: and, What thou seest, write in a book, and send it unto the seven churches which are in Asia; unto Ephesus, and unto Smyrna, and unto Pergamos, and unto Thyatira, and unto Sardis, and unto Philadelphia, and unto Laodicea.

Notice, it does not say the "first day" is the Lord's day, so you're adding that.

This is what God's says about His holy day. He only takes ownership of the seventh day above all others, the only day sanctified for holy use and blessed. Genesis 2:1-3, Exodus 20:8-11

Exodus 20:10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God.
Isaiah 58:13 If you turn away your foot from the Sabbath,
From doing your pleasure on My holy day,
And call the Sabbath a delight,
The holy day of the Lord honorable,

God takes ownership of the seventh day as His holy day which Jesus is also Lord of Mark 2:28 so the Lord's Day is not found to be the first day in scripture, but the seventh day by God's own Words.

Man is what gave the name "the Lords day" as being on Sunday, which is sad because God identifies all other days as working days Exodus 20:9, not what God set aside as His holy day and day of worship.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Why stop there- with this reasoning we can worship other gods, vain His holy name and bow to idols.
The Sabbath is part of a covenant of Ten Exodus 34:28 and wasn't part of the law of Moses of circumcision or animal sacrifices for the forgiveness of sin.

Paul contracts these ceremonial laws from the commandments of God and this is his conclusion.

1 Cor 7:9 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of the commandments of God is what matters.

Thays a ridiculous conclusion since there are no New Testament verses explicitly stating that we can worship idols or profane God’s name. Need I remind you of the ridiculously long list of Old Testament commandments of God that I presented to you last month that you admitted you don’t keep? You claim that God hasn’t changed His commandments in the New Covenant then turn right around and say that we no longer need to keep those commandments I listed.

Saturday or Sunday Church?

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Thays a ridiculous conclusion since there are no New Testament verses explicitly stating that we can worship idols or profane God’s name. Need I remind you of the ridiculously long list of Old Testament commandments of God that I presented to you last month that you admitted you don’t keep? You claim that God hasn’t changed His commandments in the New Covenant then turn right around and say that we no longer need to keep those commandments I listed.

Saturday or Sunday Church?

You can't chisel out one of the commandments of God from God's finger-written commandments Exodus 31:18 which is still binding for God's people, you can but it doesn't make it so. The Ten Commandments are a unit of Ten according to God Exodus 34:28 so either we keep them all or we don't keep them because breaking one of these commandments is like breaking them all. James 2:10-12. All of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant. The fact the Sabbath is mentioned over 50 times in the New Covenant- still showing its a commandment Luke 23:56 and something that the people of God still keep Hebrews 4:9-10 and shown by both the example of Jesus and the apostles who all tell us to keep the commandments of God and is repeated throughout the entire scriptures up until the Second Coming of Jesus Revelation 22:14-15, Revelation 14:12, Revelation 12:17 There is no scripture stating we can break God's commandment. The ceremonial laws and sacrificial system laws are not part of the Ten Commandments Exodus 20 and all point to Jesus, the moral law of God is something that will stand now and forever. Revelation 11:19 which is why the Sabbath is still the day all saved will come to worship the Lord on in the New Heaven and New Earth Isaiah 66:22-23 for eternity and not the day man assigned to God that God said is a day to do work and labor. Exodus 20:9 Not the day that is holy and blessed by God. Genesis 2:1-3 and is the holy day of the Lord. Isaiah 58:13, Exodus 20:10

 

[BNR32FAN]

All of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant. The fact the Sabbath is mentioned over 50 times in the New Covenant- still showing its a commandment Luke 23:56 and something that the people of God still keep

I’ll say this again NEWSFLASH Jesus kept ALL of God’s commandments not just the 10 commandments but ALL 613 of them. He was born a Jew. He observed ALL of the feast rituals, He offered burnt offerings and sin offerings, He was circumcised, and so did the apostles. Do you follow that example? No you do not, you’ve already told me that. As I’ve said before your argument is inconsistent and your not even practicing what your preaching. Nowhere does the Bible say that the 10 commandments will not be altered just like there was no warning that circumcision or sin offerings or the feast sabbaths would be abolished either until it happened. You claim Paul isn’t referring to the Saturday sabbath in Colossians 2:16 but he made no distinction. All of the feasts were commanded to be kept on Mt Sinai in Leviticus 23 on the same day Moses received the 10 commandments. Your assuming that the Sabbath commandment didn’t change but Paul made no distinction in Colossians 2:16. If your going to use Jesus and the apostles as an example of which commandments we have to keep in the New Covenant then your going to have to observe the ENTIRE Mosaic Law otherwise your being a hypocrite by judging others for not keeping God’s commandments when you don’t keep them yourself. Furthermore if that is the case then there is no New Covenant and we’re still under the Old Covenant of the Mosaic Law. Paul understood that faith and love for God was not about keeping a certain day or ritual and that we have been given freedom in Christ because all the Law accomplished was our condemnation. It was the whole reason why we needed a Savior.

Don’t get me wrong sister I’m not calling you a hypocrite I’m just warning you that what your preaching is hypocritical. I think it’s great that some like to worship on Saturday, amen to that!! But at the same time those people shouldn’t judge or look down on those who don’t because that commandment was abolished. I feel conviction from the Holy Spirit about a lot of things but Saturday worship is not one of them.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

I’ll say this again NEWSFLASH Jesus kept ALL of God’s commandments not just the 10 commandments but ALL 613 of them. He was born a Jew. He observed ALL of the feast rituals, He offered burnt offerings and sin offerings, He was circumcised, and so did the apostles. Do you follow that example? No you do not, you’ve already told me that. As I’ve said before your argument is inconsistent and your not even practicing what your preaching. Nowhere does the Bible say that the 10 commandments will not be altered just like there was no warning that circumcision or sin offerings or the feast sabbaths would be abolished either until it happened. You claim Paul isn’t referring to the Saturday sabbath in Colossians 2:16 but he made no distinction. All of the feasts were commanded to be kept on Mt Sinai in Leviticus 23 on the same day Moses received the 10 commandments. Your assuming that the Sabbath commandment didn’t change but Paul made no distinction in Colossians 2:16. If your going to use Jesus and the apostles as an example of which commandments we have to keep in the New Covenant then your going to have to observe the ENTIRE Mosaic Law otherwise your being a hypocrite by judging others for not keeping God’s commandments when you don’t keep them yourself. Furthermore if that is the case then there is no New Covenant and we’re still under the Old Covenant of the Mosaic Law. Paul understood that faith and love for God was not about keeping a certain day or ritual and that we have been given freedom in Christ because all the Law accomplished was our condemnation. It was the whole reason why we needed a Savior.

Don’t get me wrong sister I’m not calling you a hypocrite I’m just warning you that what your preaching is hypocritical. I think it’s great that some like to worship on Saturday, amen to that!! But at the same time those people shouldn’t judge or look down on those who don’t because that commandment was abolished. I feel conviction from the Holy Spirit about a lot of things but Saturday worship is not one of them.

Not all laws are commandments of God. You are placing everything in one category, but God did not.

Nehemiah 9:13
“You came down also on Mount Sinai, And spoke with them from heaven, And gave them just ordinances and true laws, Good statutes and commandments.


According to the scriptures, the commandments of God- the Ten Commandments, are a unit of Ten Exodus 34:28 which includes the Sabbath commandment. Exodus 20:8-11 written by the finger of God on stone, now in our hearts and minds in the New Covenant. Hebrews 8:10

And when He had made an end of speaking with him on Mount Sinai, He gave Moses two tablets of the Testimony, tablets of stone, written with the finger of God. Exodus 31:18

The hand and finger are not the same thing.

The law of ordinances, which is not commandments and not written by God's own finger Exodus 31:18 but handwritten by Moses in a book.


2 Chronicles 33:8
and I will not again remove the foot of Israel from the land which I have appointed for your fathers—only if they are careful to do all that I have commanded them, according to the whole law and the statutes and the ordinances by the hand of Moses.”

What does Colossians 2:14 say it is?

Colossians 2:14 Blotting out the handwriting of ordinances that was against us, which was contrary to us, and took it out of the way, nailing it to his cross;

The Sabbath is holy and blessed by God, impossible to be "contrary" plus our Creator personally wrote with His finger the Sabbath commandment, not handwritten by Moses.

Handwritten is not finger-written, ordinances are not the commandments. The other yearly sabbath(s) were handwritten by Moses and were ordinances that all points to Jesus as our great sacrifice. We no longer sacrifice the blood of lambs because Jesus became our perfect Lamb sacrifice for the forgiveness of sins when we repent and turn from sin. Sin is the transgression of the law 1 John 3:4 and Paul points directly to the Ten Commandments to point out sin Romans 7:7 which came in a unit of Ten Exodus 34:28, not one or nine.

The Ten Commandments are God's moral law that will never end. Jesus quotes and teaches from God's commandments so your argument does not appear to be with me. I have never judged you for not keeping the Sabbath, its not my place to judge, but Jesus wants us to teach each other the commandments quoting directly from the Ten Matthew 5:19-30 so sharing scripture is not the same as judging.

Matthew 15:3 He answered and said to them, “Why do you also transgress the commandment of God because of your tradition? 4 For God commanded, saying, ‘Honor your father and your mother’; and, ‘He who curses father or mother, let him be put to death.’ 5 But you say, ‘Whoever says to his father or mother, “Whatever profit you might have received from me is a gift to God”— 6 then he need not honor his father or mother.’ Thus you have made the commandment of God of no effect by your tradition. 7 Hypocrites! Well did Isaiah prophesy about you, saying:

8 ‘These people draw near to Me with their mouth,
And honor Me with their lips,
But their heart is far from Me.
9 And in vain they worship Me,
Teaching as doctrines the commandments of men.’ ”

There is no scripture stating the commandments of God ended.

The saints keep the commandments of God and faith in Jesus Revelation 14:12 and I am pretty sure the saints are the saved ones. Heaven shows us the Sabbath didn't end at the cross because it is still the Lord's chosen day of worship for eternity Isaiah 66:22-23 as the Sabbath is the holy day of the Lord thy God in really easy to understand scripture. Exodus 20:10, Isaiah 58:13.

Looks like we will have to agree to disagree, but I wish you well in seeking His Word.

 

[Lulav]

I’ll say this again NEWSFLASH Jesus kept ALL of God’s commandments not just the 10 commandments but ALL 613 of them. He was born a Jew.

I have a 'NEWSFLASH' for you. Jesus did not keep all 613.

Do you know why? and do you know how many he didn't?

 

[BNR32FAN]

I have a 'NEWSFLASH' for you. Jesus did not keep all 613.

Do you know why? and do you know how many he didn't?

No, please elaborate.

 

[Lulav]

No, please elaborate.

I haven't counted them all up but suffice it to say that all the laws in relation to the tabernacle, the furnishings, and the priesthood he did not do. Nor did he 'keep' the laws pertaining to women. Just two categories to start with.

 

[BNR32FAN]

Not all laws are commandments of God. You are placing everything in one category, but God did not.

Yes I agree the Israelites added to the law but the 613 commandments are all commandments of God.

According to the scriptures, the commandments of God- the Ten Commandments, are a unit of Ten Exodus 34:28 which includes the Sabbath commandment. Exodus 20:8-11 written by the finger of God on stone, now in our hearts and minds in the New Covenant. Hebrews 8:10

According to the scriptures God commanded us to keep His ordinances and His statutes, didn’t see this in the 10 commandments.

“You shall say before the Lord your God, ‘I have removed the sacred portion from my house, and also have given it to the Levite and the alien, the orphan and the widow, according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me; I have not transgressed or forgotten any of Your commandments. I have not eaten of it while mourning, nor have I removed any of it while I was unclean, nor offered any of it to the dead. I have listened to the voice of the Lord my God; I have done according to all that You have commanded me. Look down from Your holy habitation, from heaven, and bless Your people Israel, and the ground which You have given us, a land flowing with milk and honey, as You swore to our fathers.’ “This day the Lord your God commands you to do these statutes and ordinances. You shall therefore be careful to do them with all your heart and with all your soul. You have today declared the Lord to be your God, and that you would walk in His ways and keep His statutes, His commandments and His ordinances, and listen to His voice.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭26:13-17‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to the scriptures this is a commandment of God that is not one of the 10 commandments.

“if only you listen obediently to the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all this commandment which I am commanding you today. For the Lord your God will bless you as He has promised you, and you will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow; and you will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you. “If there is a poor man with you, one of your brothers, in any of your towns in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand from your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and shall generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks. Beware that there is no base thought in your heart, saying, ‘The seventh year, the year of remission, is near,’ and your eye is hostile toward your poor brother, and you give him nothing; then he may cry to the Lord against you, and it will be a sin in you. You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings. For the poor will never cease to be in the land; therefore I command you, saying, ‘You shall freely open your hand to your brother, to your needy and poor in your land.’ “If your kinsman, a Hebrew man or woman, is sold to you, then he shall serve you six years, but in the seventh year you shall set him free. When you set him free, you shall not send him away empty-handed. You shall furnish him liberally from your flock and from your threshing floor and from your wine vat; you shall give to him as the Lord your God has blessed you. You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God redeemed you; therefore I command you this today. It shall come about if he says to you, ‘I will not go out from you,’ because he loves you and your household, since he fares well with you; then you shall take an awl and pierce it through his ear into the door, and he shall be your servant forever. Also you shall do likewise to your maidservant.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭15:5-17‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to the scriptures the instructions on what to do with people with leprosy was also a commandment of God not listed in the 10 commandments.

““Be careful against an infection of leprosy, that you diligently observe and do according to all that the Levitical priests teach you; as I have commanded them, so you shall be careful to do.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭24:8‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to the scriptures circumcision was a commandment of God not listed among the 10 commandments.

“Then Abraham circumcised his son Isaac when he was eight days old, as God had commanded him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭21:4‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to the scriptures burnt offerings was a commandment of God not listed among the 10 commandments.

““Command Aaron and his sons, saying, ‘This is the law for the burnt offering: the burnt offering itself shall remain on the hearth on the altar all night until the morning, and the fire on the altar is to be kept burning on it.”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭6:9‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

I know for a fact I can find dozens more but I think that is enough evidence to indicate that the 10 commandments are not the only commandments of God.

The law of ordinances, which is not commandments and not written by God's own finger Exodus 31:18 but handwritten by Moses in a book.

Yeah I addressed that in my quote from Deuteronomy 26 in bold letters above.

The Sabbath is holy and blessed by God, impossible to be "contrary" plus our Creator personally wrote the Sabbath commandment, not handwritten by Moses.

Yeah just like every other feast day mentioned in Leviticus 23. Oh and FYI Leviticus 24 starts off with yet another commandment of God not included with the 10 commandments. Just in case you weren’t aware of that one either.

The fact is that the Old Testament is filled with commandments of God. The 613 commandments of God are just that, they are commandments of God, nothing less. When God tells someone to do something it’s non negotiable it’s a commandment every time. They’re never optional unless explicitly stated in the scriptures. So if your going to hold to the claim that none of God’s commandments have been abolished then your obligated to keep a lot more than just 10 commandments.

 

[BNR32FAN]

I haven't counted them all up but suffice it to say that all the laws in relation to the tabernacle, the furnishings, and the priesthood he did not do. Nor did he 'keep' the laws pertaining to women. Just two categories to start with.

True but He didn’t break them either.

 

[BNR32FAN]

You can't chisel out one of the commandments of God from God's finger-written commandments Exodus 31:18 which is still binding for God's people, you can but it doesn't make it so. The Ten Commandments are a unit of Ten according to God Exodus 34:28 so either we keep them all or we don't keep them because breaking one of these commandments is like breaking them all. James 2:10-12. All of the Ten Commandments are repeated in the New Covenant. The fact the Sabbath is mentioned over 50 times in the New Covenant- still showing its a commandment Luke 23:56 and something that the people of God still keep Hebrews 4:9-10 and shown by both the example of Jesus and the apostles who all tell us to keep the commandments of God and is repeated throughout the entire scriptures up until the Second Coming of Jesus Revelation 22:14-15, Revelation 14:12, Revelation 12:17 There is no scripture stating we can break God's commandment. The ceremonial laws and sacrificial system laws are not part of the Ten Commandments Exodus 20 and all point to Jesus, the moral law of God is something that will stand now and forever. Revelation 11:19 which is why the Sabbath is still the day all saved will come to worship the Lord on in the New Heaven and New Earth Isaiah 66:22-23 for eternity and not the day man assigned to God that God said is a day to do work and labor. Exodus 20:9 Not the day that is holy and blessed by God. Genesis 2:1-3 and is the holy day of the Lord. Isaiah 58:13, Exodus 20:10

And BTW the commandment was to rest not gather together to worship.

 

[SabbathBlessings]

Yes I agree the Israelites added to the law but the 613 commandments are all commandments of God.



According to the scriptures God commanded us to keep His ordinances and His statutes, didn’t see this in the 10 commandments.

“You shall say before the Lord your God, ‘I have removed the sacred portion from my house, and also have given it to the Levite and the alien, the orphan and the widow, according to all Your commandments which You have commanded me; I have not transgressed or forgotten any of Your commandments. I have not eaten of it while mourning, nor have I removed any of it while I was unclean, nor offered any of it to the dead. I have listened to the voice of the Lord my God; I have done according to all that You have commanded me. Look down from Your holy habitation, from heaven, and bless Your people Israel, and the ground which You have given us, a land flowing with milk and honey, as You swore to our fathers.’ “This day the Lord your God commands you to do these statutes and ordinances. You shall therefore be careful to do them with all your heart and with all your soul. You have today declared the Lord to be your God, and that you would walk in His ways and keep His statutes, His commandments and His ordinances, and listen to His voice.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭26:13-17‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to the scriptures this is a commandment of God that is not one of the 10 commandments.

“if only you listen obediently to the voice of the Lord your God, to observe carefully all this commandment which I am commanding you today. For the Lord your God will bless you as He has promised you, and you will lend to many nations, but you will not borrow; and you will rule over many nations, but they will not rule over you. “If there is a poor man with you, one of your brothers, in any of your towns in your land which the Lord your God is giving you, you shall not harden your heart, nor close your hand from your poor brother; but you shall freely open your hand to him, and shall generously lend him sufficient for his need in whatever he lacks. Beware that there is no base thought in your heart, saying, ‘The seventh year, the year of remission, is near,’ and your eye is hostile toward your poor brother, and you give him nothing; then he may cry to the Lord against you, and it will be a sin in you. You shall generously give to him, and your heart shall not be grieved when you give to him, because for this thing the Lord your God will bless you in all your work and in all your undertakings. For the poor will never cease to be in the land; therefore I command you, saying, ‘You shall freely open your hand to your brother, to your needy and poor in your land.’ “If your kinsman, a Hebrew man or woman, is sold to you, then he shall serve you six years, but in the seventh year you shall set him free. When you set him free, you shall not send him away empty-handed. You shall furnish him liberally from your flock and from your threshing floor and from your wine vat; you shall give to him as the Lord your God has blessed you. You shall remember that you were a slave in the land of Egypt, and the Lord your God redeemed you; therefore I command you this today. It shall come about if he says to you, ‘I will not go out from you,’ because he loves you and your household, since he fares well with you; then you shall take an awl and pierce it through his ear into the door, and he shall be your servant forever. Also you shall do likewise to your maidservant.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭15:5-17‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to the scriptures the instructions on what to do with people with leprosy was also a commandment of God not listed in the 10 commandments.

““Be careful against an infection of leprosy, that you diligently observe and do according to all that the Levitical priests teach you; as I have commanded them, so you shall be careful to do.”
‭‭Deuteronomy‬ ‭24:8‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to the scriptures circumcision was a commandment of God not listed among the 10 commandments.

“Then Abraham circumcised his son Isaac when he was eight days old, as God had commanded him.”
‭‭Genesis‬ ‭21:4‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

According to the scriptures burnt offerings was a commandment of God not listed among the 10 commandments.

““Command Aaron and his sons, saying, ‘This is the law for the burnt offering: the burnt offering itself shall remain on the hearth on the altar all night until the morning, and the fire on the altar is to be kept burning on it.”
‭‭Leviticus‬ ‭6:9‬ ‭NASB1995‬‬

I know for a fact I can find dozens more but I think that is enough evidence to indicate that the 10 commandments are not the only commandments of God.



Yeah I addressed that in my quote from Deuteronomy 26 in bold letters above.



Yeah just like every other feast day mentioned in Leviticus 23. Oh and FYI Leviticus 24 starts off with yet another commandment of God not included with the 10 commandments. Just in case you weren’t aware of that one either.

The fact is that the Old Testament is filled with commandments of God. The 613 commandments of God are just that, they are commandments of God, nothing less. When God tells someone to do something it’s non negotiable it’s a commandment every time. They’re never optional unless explicitly stated in the scriptures. So if your going to hold to the claim that none of God’s commandments have been abolished then your obligated to keep a lot more than just 10 commandments.

Here are the Ten Commandments- does God have other laws, yes as I already provided. There is no scripture that says the Ten Commandments ended and Jesus quotes from them directly often, so they are still binding. A commandment means just that, not something that is a suggestion or multiple choice.

God only wrote these words with His own finger and spoke them with His own voice. Only these words were placed inside the ark of the covenant, in the Most Holy of God's Temple which is revealed in heaven Revelation 11:19

I am sorry you don't seem to understand the value in what God has provided with His holy commandments, but it certainly does not change that this is what points our sin Romans 7:7 and James said if you break one of these quoting directly from the Ten you break them all James 2:10-12 or Jesus quoting to keep the least of these you will be least in heaven, which I don't think it means one will be there, but we have free will to test that theory.

The Ten Commandments
20 And God spoke all these words, saying:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

 

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Here are the Ten Commandments- does God have other laws, yes as I already provided. There is no scripture that says the Ten Commandments ended and Jesus quotes from them directly often, so they are still binding. A commandment means just that, not something that is a suggestion or multiple choice.

God only wrote these words with His own finger and spoke them with His own voice. Only these words were placed inside the ark of the covenant, in the Most Holy of God's Temple which is revealed in heaven Revelation 11:19

I am sorry you don't seem to understand the value in what God has provided with His holy commandments, but it certainly does not change that this is what points our sin Romans 7:7 and James said if you break one of these quoting directly from the Ten you break them all James 2:10-12 or Jesus quoting to keep the least of these you will be least in heaven, which I don't think it means one will be there, but we have free will to test that theory.

The Ten Commandments
20 And God spoke all these words, saying:

2 “I am the Lord your God, who brought you out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.

3 “You shall have no other gods before Me.

4 “You shall not make for yourself a carved image—any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth; 5 you shall not bow down to them nor serve them. For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children to the third and fourth generations of those who hate Me, 6 but showing mercy to thousands, to those who love Me and keep My commandments.

7 “You shall not take the name of the Lord your God in vain, for the Lord will not hold him guiltless who takes His name in vain.

8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy. 9 Six days you shall labor and do all your work, 10 but the seventh day is the Sabbath of the Lord your God. In it you shall do no work: you, nor your son, nor your daughter, nor your male servant, nor your female servant, nor your cattle, nor your stranger who is within your gates. 11 For in six days the Lord made the heavens and the earth, the sea, and all that is in them, and rested the seventh day. Therefore the Lord blessed the Sabbath day and hallowed it.

12 “Honor your father and your mother, that your days may be long upon the land which the Lord your God is giving you.

13 “You shall not murder.

14 “You shall not commit adultery.

15 “You shall not steal.

16 “You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.

17 “You shall not covet your neighbor’s house; you shall not covet your neighbor’s wife, nor his male servant, nor his female servant, nor his ox, nor his donkey, nor anything that is your neighbor’s.”

Did Jesus mention the 4th commandment? I’m not familiar with any verses where He mentioned keeping that one.