TasteForTruth
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He does not appear to participate in any of the threads he starts. Probably doing a research project.
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Why does Mormonism want to be Associated with Christianity?
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I will repeat my previous statement: You just follow what you believe is right. And I will do the same.
Hi,
I take it you are refusing to answer my question. The qustion was not what do you think I should do? If it was your answer would be more acceptable. Instead of asking what I should do, I asked you, "Would I have to give up God?"
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
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TasteForTruth
Half-truths are lies wearing makeup
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Hi,
1. I understand I hope, what you mean by your own authority.
2. You are my only reference so far and LDS, so I have no idea or ideas on what they would think or say, about me having to give up God, to accept the Restored Gospel.
3. I understand that you think, that I would not find any difference in 100% of the LDS, adherants.
4. I understand that you say, that you worship God, and not nothing. I never said your god, is not nothing though. Have others said this to you?
Next on why I do not really believe in God. I will also touch on why I don't believe in the Christian Bible.
1.) I don't believe in the Christian God, because, I am beyond that. I know He is real, as much as I know you are real, if I had met you in person, for years and years. I do not believe in God, as I cannot believe in something that is Real.
2. The Bible for me is the same, as my Fact of God. I know the Bible as fact, and I do not believe in that book, as I know it is Real, and I have the 10 year proof still for anyone to try.
My question to you, is a little more profound and a lot more factual, than most belief systems. I am asking you, and you have responded. To you on your own authority as a person, I would have to give up my incorrect beliefs, and my faith in the doctrines of men.
Now God is neither a doctrine of men in my life, nor is He a belief. He is just what He Is, and that is God.
Would I have to give up God, would I to belong to your religion?
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
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Ran77
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You may take it any way you want.
I don't know how a person would "Give up God" unless it had to do with changing your views of the nature of God and your understanding of His word. In that case, you have already indicated that you have never followed the doctrines of men. As such, you should do what you believe is right and that would mean you did not give up God.
Which means I did answer your question. I'm not sure what else you were expecting.
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TasteForTruth
Half-truths are lies wearing makeup
I just mean that I speak for myself. Not for my Church. Not for God. And this applies to all of us who participate in the forum.
It is my opinion that we wouldn't. I can't see any LDS person agreeing with the idea that you'd have to give up God to accept the Restored Gospel.
No. It just seems a reasonable basis for the question you raised.
I have answered this question. No, you would not have to give up God.
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See, there it is.
You do not worship God as we do. We worship a Mighty God Who has always existed, before there was matter, before there was time, itself. He was never a man, He never needed to be exalted, because He always was, is now, and forever will be God. He doesn't need a wife to be God. I have tried...oh how I have tried...to find words in these threads to tell of the Awesome Majesty that is God...but there are no words I know.
The god you worship was once a man. He was born, like any other man, helpless and tiny, needing to be fed, and changed, and bathed, and all the care a baby needs...he grew up like any other child...he matured and married...and eventually, he died...and the god of his world exalted him.
Now, you may believe with all your heart in that god, and even believe that he is the Christian god.
But he is not the same God worshiped by most of the Christian world. Saying that he is will not make it so.
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I can't say that you are not Christians. Someone evidently thought that is what I meant.
That is not for me to judge.
As to whether or not you have a seat at the table, as another user put it, isn't up to me, either.
It is God's table, not mine.
All I can do is to try to point out the difference between the god Mormon's worship,
And the God that orthodox Christianity worships.
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TasteForTruth
Half-truths are lies wearing makeup
I know where you stand on this issue. You really needn't keep reminding me.
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I know where you stand on this issue. You really needn't keep reminding me.
I agree with her.
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TasteForTruth
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I sent you a link to it several days ago. I guess you didn't read it.
https://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/js-h/1?lang=eng
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Here is the account (History of Joseph Smith, Ch. 1) :
18 My object in going to inquire of the Lord was to know which of all the sects was right, that I might know which to join. No sooner, therefore, did I get possession of myself, so as to be able to speak, than I asked the Personages who stood above me in the light, which of all the sects was right (for at this time it had never entered into my heart that all were wrong)and which I should join.
19 I was answered that I must join none of them, for they were all wrong; and the Personage who addressed me said that all their creeds were an abomination in his sight; that those professors were all corrupt; that: they draw near to me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me, they teach for doctrines the commandments of men, having a form of godliness, but they deny the power thereof.
20 He again forbade me to join with any of them....
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This "revelation" (date 1830) separates them from all Christian creeds.
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For me, it starts in verse 15 "... Thick darkness gathered around me, and it seemed to me for a time as if I were doomed to sudden destruction."
thru verse 16 "... I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me."
IMO, Satan disguised as an angel of light captivated him.
If one really wants to experience the lds maze of confusion, look into the different and conflicting accounts of the first vision story.
thru verse 16 "... I saw a pillar of light exactly over my head, above the brightness of the sun, which descended gradually until it fell upon me."
IMO, Satan disguised as an angel of light captivated him.
If one really wants to experience the lds maze of confusion, look into the different and conflicting accounts of the first vision story.
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Ran77
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What is it that the "Mighty God" you mention can do that our understanding of God cannot?
Based on your comments, several of these items you mention would indicate that Jesus was not mighty. Because Jesus was once a man, He was born like any other man tiny helpless and needing to be fed and changed and bathed. He also grew up like any other child and matured and died. I hadn't realized that orthodox Christians believed that this diminished Jesus in some way. Maybe you can explain exactly how that works.
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You may take it any way you want.
I don't know how a person would "Give up God" unless it had to do with changing your views of the nature of God and your understanding of His word. In that case, you have already indicated that you have never followed the doctrines of men. As such, you should do what you believe is right and that would mean you did not give up God.
Which means I did answer your question. I'm not sure what else you were expecting.
Hi,
Just got back home. Interesting. I would not have to give up God. By the way, I define doctrines of men as, only thise items that are not Biblical, and also are in disagreement with the Bible. Is that waht you mean by thise words. Sorry, but I have not ever heard that term before, and took you quite literally, Was I correct in using a literal interpretation, without asking you first? I would say no, but I didn't think about it til just now.
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
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Hi,
You are my second response. I just got home. Thank you for answering my question.
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
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Hi,
It is Easter Sunday coming up. To me this is a trying time.
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
It is Easter Sunday coming up. To me this is a trying time.
LOVE,
...Katherina., .... .
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