Why do Leftists/Liberals support Muslims and not Christians?

[DRD4Him]

Old Arab proverb: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

BINGO!

 

[QuakerOats]

Reality.

Then you're living in quite a different reality from many of the rest of us because I don't see anyone here under your OP umbrella that supports any oppressive religious or ideological doctrine. If you still feel that I'm wrong however, evidence would be a good start.

 

[JGG]

Reality.

Not yet it isn't. Reality is a pretty big place, so could you narrow that search down a bit? Maybe point out which particular corner of reality justifies your claim? Most of us generally expect that evidence, being evidence, will indeed be within reality, so just stating such is...umm, useless. Perhaps you could point to something in particular, so we could ascertain just how good this "realistic" evidence is?

 

[Phinehas2]

QuakerOats,

Then you're living in quite a different reality from many of the rest of us because I don't see anyone here under your OP umbrella that supports any oppressive religious or ideological doctrine. If you still feel that I'm wrong however, evidence would be a good start.

There are plenty who agree with me, though you are right we have a different sense of reality from you lot. J

 

[Gishin]

DRD4Him,
Its fear. We know the answer, because Jesus Christ is the truth and an offense to the proud. People are scared of Islam so they tend to want to appease rather than lose things like possessions and confortable lifestyles.

Why are you making stuff up?

 

[Gishin]

QuakerOats,

There are plenty who agree with me, though you are right we have a different sense of reality from you lot. J

Of course people agree with you, but that doesn't make them right either.

 

[tulc]

Typical response of a man exposed.

Really? My response is usually:
"Close the Door!!" :o
tulc(doesn't anybody knock any more?)

 

[Phinehas2]

Gishin,

Why are you making stuff up?

I am not making it up, what is your motive for suggesting I am, fear?

According to Islamic history itself, Mohammed and his followers carried out military style campaigns, Jesus and His disciples didn’t.

 

[tulc]

How many people are still critical of Israel over that flotilla incident even though footage showing the activists starting the violence has gone viral?

Cute! So...setting up a blockade for over 3 years, blocking people from delivering aid, dropping armed people onto your ship. Your response would have been, what?
tulc(just curious)

 

[ToddNotTodd]

Reality.

The reality is that everyone so far has said they don't support Muslim extremists. I'll ask the question again that you chose to ignore:

How many more people saying they don't support Muslim extremists will it take for you to change your mind?

 

[SithDoughnut]

Cute! So...setting up a blockade for over 3 years, blocking people from delivering aid, dropping armed people onto your ship. Your response would have been, what?
tulc(just curious)

I can only presume that when someone breaks into Botanical Bob's home, he's not allowed to use violence to stop them.

 

[QuakerOats]

According to Islamic history itself, Mohammed and his followers carried out military style campaigns, Jesus and His disciples didn’t.

Like the Qur'an, the bible has its fair share of violence, particularly violence condoned and/or carried out by God himself. And if we accept the idea that Jesus is God, then would it not follow that Jesus also condoned and/or carried out said violence? It's an honest question. I'm not denying the violence in the Qur'an, nor am I suggesting that the prophet Muhammad didn't carry out any violent campaigns, I'm simply curious as to how one can charge Muhammad with being violent when one's own god is depicted as condoning and/or carrying out such violence.

 

[Nathan Poe]

According to Islamic history itself, Mohammed and his followers carried out military style campaigns, Jesus and His disciples didn’t.

According to history itself, Jesus and his disciples were captured, tortured, and put to death in increasingly horrific ways, Mohammed and his followers weren't.

Just sayin' -- if you got something that works, go with it.

 

[tanzanos]

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[tulc]

Old Arab proverb: The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

Ahhh! Welcome to why the US supported those oppressive regimes all over the world in the name of "fighting the commies!".
tulc(you know, the ones that killed all those nuns and priests who spoke up for the poor?)

 

[Phinehas2]

QuakerOats,

Like the Qur'an, the bible has its fair share of violence, particularly violence condoned and/or carried out by God himself. And if we accept the idea that Jesus is God, then would it not follow that Jesus also condoned and/or carried out said violence?

So obviously not, if God carries out the violence then leave it to God, Jesus tells His disciples not to use the sword or violence and didn’t.

I'm simply curious as to how one can charge Muhammad with being violent when one's own god is depicted as condoning and/or carrying out such violence.

Mohammed isnt Allah, Jesus Christ is God. Do you not understand core Christian values?

 

[Phinehas2]

Nathan Poe,

According to history itself, Jesus and his disciples were captured, tortured, and put to death in increasingly horrific ways, Mohammed and his followers weren't.

Just sayin' -- if you got something that works, go with it.

Apart from having no idea what your point is, just to correct you during the disputes some of Mohammed’s followers were attacked.

 

[Chesterton]

Ahhh! Welcome to why the US supported those oppressive regimes all over the world in the name of "fighting the commies!".

Duh, everyone knows that. I didn't say it was a bad proverb.

tulc(you know, the ones that killed all those nuns and priests who spoke up for the poor?)

Care to Google how many Christian clergy were imprisoned, tortured and killed by Communists worldwide since 1917?

 

[Phinehas2]

tanzanos,

No just the people with a cross on their chest.

I am showing who are the followers of the religion and who aren’t by whether they follow who they have faith in or not.

Most Christians do not abide to the OT laws. Thus Christianity does not punish its followers for apostasy.

No Christian abides by OT law, they abide by Christ’s fulfilment, that’s what makes them Christians.

The IRA were Christians.

Again the question is were the actions of the IRA people in line with Christ’s teaching.

Many Muslims abide to the OT laws and to them the people we call terrorists are nothing more than martyrs for Islam and freedom fighters.

No, one wouldn’t be a Muslim if they followed OT law, they would be a Jew. Muslim follow what is taught from Mohammed in the Quran and Haddith.

You may have got the idea that fundamentalist Muslims are more true to Islam than your average moderate western Muslim.

What we need to understand here is that Islam is in the eyes of many as wicked as Christianity is to many Muslims. Most Christians and Muslims however just want to live their lives in peace.

Is that true? I suggest the evidence in the world indicates the opposite.

Personally I find fundamentalist Islam and all who adhere to the OT laws as uncivilised. This is not meant as an insult to anyone. Anyone who believes that killing is justified if done in the name of God then in my book that is barbarism and conduct unbecoming of a civilised person.

As a disciple of Christ I fully agree with you.

 

[Gishin]

Gishin,
I am not making it up, what is your motive for suggesting I am, fear?

According to Islamic history itself, Mohammed and his followers carried out military style campaigns, Jesus and His disciples didn’t.

People are scared of Islam so they tend to want to appease rather than lose things like possessions and confortable lifestyles.

This is what you made up.