Why do I still age if I haven`t done anything wrong?

[timothyu]

I am not going to comment on the advantage females have in the splits category.

But if you mean you get eternal life if you really and truly do everything right, why haven`t anyone done it already?

Eternal life is not in the illusion but in the reality behind it.

 

[Principium]

I am not going to comment on the advantage females have in the splits category.

Eternal life is not in the illusion but in the reality behind it.

What do you mean exactly, I`m a little slow

 

[Sabertooth]

Why do I still age if I haven`t done anything wrong?

"...for all have sinned and fall short of the glory of God,..." Romans 3:23 NKJV

Sin is a state, not a score.

 

[Monk Brendan]

But if you mean you get eternal life if you really and truly do everything right, why haven`t anyone done it already?

You don't actually think "eternal life" means you are forever young in this world, do you?

 

[Principium]

You don't actually think "eternal life" means you are forever young in this world, do you?

Wouldn`t that be the best perhaps, he ideal sort of?

 

[timothyu]

You don't actually think "eternal life" means you are forever young in this world, do you?

Hope not.. so much left unlearned.

 

[Monk Brendan]

Wouldn`t that be the best perhaps, he ideal sort of?

Nope.

"Zoin aionion" in Greek is the KIND of life that God Himself has, not perpetual youth.

 

[ViaCrucis]

Well, I guess I`m aging like everyone else even though I can`t really say I have done anything wrong to anyone or something and I`m not denying god or jesus ether, so I still age and die and lose my body I have now?

People don't age and die because they do wrong things, people age and die because that's the reality of the world we live in. Entropy happens. Creatures are mortal.

Additionally, at least from a Christian perspective, we're all sinful. We all do wrong, sometimes on purpose, sometimes we don't even know we're doing it. Sin isn't just "the big stuff" like murder or theft, it's also simply not loving other people the way we should. Even good deeds done selfishly are sinful. Utilitarianism doesn't happen in Christianity.

The Christian religion teaches that our hope is not in this life, but in the life to come. This life is a cross that we carry, by living out our faith in love toward our neighbors. In this life there is suffering. In this life there is death. In this life there is injustice. What we believe is that because of Christ's victory over death, we can live this life in faith, trusting in Christ, and with hope for that future world where there is no suffering, death, and there is perfect justice. And, because of that faith and hope, we can seek to bring a small glimmer of that future world into this present world. By loving others, by feeding the hungry, by comforting those who mourn, by sharing joy with others, and weeping with those who weep, by forgiving those who hurt us, by blessing those who curse us, by offering ourselves, in love, as living sacrifices out of reverence to Jesus, and out of of loving compassion for our fellow man.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Principium]

Nope.

"Zoin aionion" in Greek is the KIND of life that God Himself has, not perpetual youth.

Ah I just felt it as ideal for me, but whatever really

 

[Principium]

People don't age and die because they do wrong things, people age and die because that's the reality of the world we live in. Entropy happens. Creatures are mortal.

Additionally, at least from a Christian perspective, we're all sinful. We all do wrong, sometimes on purpose, sometimes we don't even know we're doing it. Sin isn't just "the big stuff" like murder or theft, it's also simply not loving other people the way we should. Even good deeds done selfishly are sinful. Utilitarianism doesn't happen in Christianity.

The Christian religion teaches that our hope is not in this life, but in the life to come. This life is a cross that we carry, by living out our faith in love toward our neighbors. In this life there is suffering. In this life there is death. In this life there is injustice. What we believe is that because of Christ's victory over death, we can live this life in faith, trusting in Christ, and with hope for that future world where there is no suffering, death, and there is perfect justice. And, because of that faith and hope, we can seek to bring a small glimmer of that future world into this present world. By loving others, by feeding the hungry, by comforting those who mourn, by sharing joy with others, and weeping with those who weep, by forgiving those who hurt us, by blessing those who curse us, by offering ourselves, in love, as living sacrifices out of reverence to Jesus, and out of of loving compassion for our fellow man.

-CryptoLutheran

So there`s no eternal life anywhere? ;(

 

[Monk Brendan]

Ah I just felt it as ideal for me, but whatever really

You don't get to make up your own reality in spiritual matters.

What do you actually KNOW about B-flat basic Christianity, anyway?

 

[ViaCrucis]

Wouldn`t that be the best perhaps, he ideal sort of?

A few months ago I watched a show on Netflix called Altered Carbon. It's a science fiction program taking place in the future where people can effectively live forever because their consciousness is uploaded onto "cortical stacks", devices which are inserted into the brain stem. If a person "dies", i.e their body dies, their "stack" can be removed and inserted into a new body. The only real way a person can have "true death" is if their "stack" is destroyed.

In the show it depicts people who have, over the course of centuries, effectively attained immortal status, they live in highrises up in the clouds, and can basically do anything they want with little to no impunity. However most people still live in absolute squalor. It is a dark, rather abysmal, dystopian world.

I think the show highlights, maybe intentionally maybe not, that you can't simply flip a switch off on human nature. Make people virtually immortal and what you end up with isn't a utopian vision for the future, by a grim dystopian one where the powerful are even more powerful, the wicked are even more wicked, and the weak and the lowly suffer even more.

There needs to be something more than just mere immortality. There needs to be a healing, a redemption, a radical transfiguration and metamorphosis of what it means to be human, and of the whole of creation. That's what the Christian hope in resurrection and everlasting life in the Age to Come means.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Principium]

A few months ago I watched a show on Netflix called Altered Carbon. It's a science fiction program taking place in the future where people can effectively live forever because their consciousness is uploaded onto "cortical stacks", devices which are inserted into the brain stem. If a person "dies", i.e their body dies, their "stack" can be removed and inserted into a new body. The only real way a person can have "true death" is if their "stack" is destroyed.

In the show it depicts people who have, over the course of centuries, effectively attained immortal status, they live in highrises up in the clouds, and can basically do anything they want with little to no impunity. However most people still live in absolute squalor. It is a dark, rather abysmal, dystopian world.

I think the show highlights, maybe intentionally maybe not, that you can't simply flip a switch off on human nature. Make people virtually immortal and what you end up with isn't a utopian vision for the future, by a grim dystopian one where the powerful are even more powerful, the wicked are even more wicked, and the weak and the lowly suffer even more.

There needs to be something more than just mere immortality. There needs to be a healing, a redemption, a radical transfiguration and metamorphosis of what it means to be human, and of the whole of creation. That's what the Christian hope in resurrection and everlasting life in the Age to Come means.

-CryptoLutheran

Very interesting, yes perhaps it`s more to it than just living forever on this planet or another one

 

[ViaCrucis]

So there`s no eternal life anywhere? ;(

We have eternal life in Christ, presently in hope, and at the resurrection in fact.

-CryptoLutheran

 

[Principium]

We have eternal life in Christ, presently in hope, and at the resurrection in fact.

-CryptoLutheran

Let`s hope so heheh

 

[Messerve]

Yeah, there is so much involved in the aging process. Sinful lifestyles can certainly speed up the aging process, but sometimes that doesn't even happen.

I know someone who is not a Christian, is an alcoholic, has the most ridiculously strenuous job ever, is 15 years older than me, yet looks about my age still. Not even a gray hair, and I have plenty... It's really annoying.

Yet, as Proverbs states: "Gray hair is a crown of splendor obtained by a righteous life." If you drown all your worries and stress in alcohol and worldly pleasures, perhaps you really could slow down the aging process to a degree. Whereas those of us who try to live a godlier lifestyle and choose to go to Jesus with burdens instead of substances, we still have to deal with the immoral, decaying world we live in every single day. Despite the hope of eternity with Jesus and the peace He gives us, it's still hard. Much harder than just living however you choose and disregarding all opinions.

 

[Principium]

Yeah, there is so much involved in the aging process. Sinful lifestyles can certainly speed up the aging process, but sometimes that doesn't even happen.

I know someone who is not a Christian, is an alcoholic, has the most ridiculously strenuous job ever, is 15 years older than me, yet looks about my age still. Not even a gray hair, and I have plenty... It's really annoying.

Yet, as Proverbs states: "Gray hair is a crown of splendor obtained by a righteous life." If you drown all your worries and stress in alcohol and worldly pleasures, perhaps you really could slow down the aging process to a degree. Whereas those of us who try to live a godlier lifestyle and choose to go to Jesus with burdens instead of substances, we still have to deal with the immoral, decaying world we live in every single day. Despite the hope of eternity with Jesus and the peace He gives us, it's still hard. Much harder than just living however you choose and disregarding all opinions.

I must deal with everything bad in the world myself since i care alot about others and it stresses me a little but not that bad really ether, I guess it get`s better also with time

 

[redleghunter]

Well, I guess I`m aging like everyone else even though I can`t really say I have done anything wrong to anyone or something and I`m not denying god or jesus ether, so I still age and die and lose my body I have now?

Everyone one ages and eventually assumes room temperature.

 

[redleghunter]

But if you mean you get eternal life if you really and truly do everything right, why haven`t anyone done it already?

I highly recommend you read Romans chapters one through five.

 

[Principium]

Everyone one ages and eventually assumes room temperature.

So there`s no eternal life like christians say there is?