Which Abominations are OK?

[ChetSinger]

Not being Jewish, I'll enjoy my bacon-wrapped scallops. But I'm told they're unhealthy.

 

[Tone]

Not being Jewish, I'll enjoy my bacon-wrapped scallops. But I'm told they're unhealthy.

They are.

 

[Timoth_Thomas]

How do we know which abominations are OK with YHWH, and which ones he finds abominable?

For example:

Leviticus 11:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.


Eating shrimp is an abomination according to Leviticus.

Leviticus 18:22 King James Version (KJV)
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

So is homosexuality according to Leviticus.

How do we know where to draw the line?

It depends on whether we're looking at it from a Judaism perspective or a Christian one. Given the name of the site, I'll assume the latter.

To be able to answer this question, you must first understand the difference between the former covenant (the law) and the present covenant (of faith); namely, that we are no longer under the Mosaic law (Romans 3:21) but under the law of faith (Romans 3:22). Hebrews 7:12 informs us that with a change of the priesthood (Jesus having become our High Priest forever by making atonement for our sins on the cross) comes a change also of the law. So, the short answer to this question is relatively simple: under the law, both were considered abominable. Under the law of faith (by Jesus Christ), only one is, namely, the second one.

In the first case, we see that dietary restrictions under the law were removed by God in Peter's vision in Acts the 10th and 11th chapter. Now the message of the vision was twofold: 1) God had cleansed all the creatures that were previously unclean according to the law; 2) Analogous to that, God had "cleansed" the Gentiles, whom the Jews were previously, under the law, forbidden to deal with unless God said otherwise (which happened in certain cases under the law), and therefore the Word could be brought to the Gentiles who, for the entirety of the 2000 year period that the law was in effect, God (and his people by extension) did not deal with (Deuteronomy 7:6-8).

The second case, as with the first, is revisited in the New Testament. In Romans 1:26-27, Paul describes homosexuality as a "vile affection". So, we see that, in this case, there is a carryover of the law. In fact, 1 Corinthians 6:9 includes the 'effeminate' (meaning, by definition "having feminine qualities untypical of a man : not manly in appearance or manner") in a list of those who will not inherit the kingdom of God.

So the line is this: we see many things in the law that were decried and outlawed by God, but when it comes to us presently living as Christians according to the law of faith, the law has been changed. In order to know what is and isn't sin or abomination according to God, we must consult the New Testament scriptures.

 

[Hammster]

Are you sure you are not Israel?

I’m not an Israelite. I’m sure.

 

[Tone]

I’m not an Israelite. I’m sure.

Will you be when the Kingdom is on earth as it is in heaven?

 

[Tra Phull]

Can Jews eat Turkey-bacon?

 

[Tone]

Can Jews eat Turkey-bacon?

Sure.

 

[Hammster]

Will you be when the Kingdom is on earth as it is in heaven?

No. You’ll find me here.


And they sang a new song, saying,
“Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation.
— Revelation 5:9

 

[Tone]

No. You’ll find me here.


And they sang a new song, saying,
“Worthy are You to take the book and to break its seals; for You were slain, and purchased for God with Your blood men from every tribe and tongue and people and nation.
— Revelation 5:9

That's true, but you left out the next verse:


Revelation 5:10
"10 and madest them [to be] unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon earth."

What Kingdom is that?

You do remember this verse as well?:

Revelation 21:12
"12The city had a great and high wall with twelve gates inscribed with the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, and twelve angels at the gates."

 

[Tra Phull]

But if I return from the SHAMBLES with Turkey-bacon, and others feel it has been sacrificed to idols...

Oh, never mind, today grocery stores don't sell things that have been sacrificed to idols anyway.

 

[Tone]

But if I return from the SHAMBLES with Turkey-bacon, and others feel it has been sacrificed to idols...

Oh, never mind, today grocery stores don't sell things that have been sacrificed to idols anyway.

Right, there shouldn't be anymore weak brothers...man up!

 

[Gregory Thompson]

Good work! Thank you for this contribution. I'm going to save this work to my files. It is well worthy of study.

Glad to be of service.

God bless.

 

[Hammster]

That's true, but you left out the next verse:


Revelation 5:10
"10 and madest them [to be] unto our God a kingdom and priests; and they reign upon earth."

What Kingdom is that?

You do remember this verse as well?:

Revelation 21:12
"12The city had a great and high wall with twelve gates inscribed with the names of the twelve tribes of Israel, and twelve angels at the gates."

Yes.

 

[Leet]

Look to the NT. For one thing, homosexuality is forbidden there too, unlike a host of random OT stuff.

 

[Salvadore]

But if I return from the SHAMBLES with Turkey-bacon, and others feel it has been sacrificed to idols...

Oh, never mind, today grocery stores don't sell things that have been sacrificed to idols anyway.

Unless it is halal

 

[Tra Phull]

halal or haram, we must not eat food in front of weaker brethren and damage their faith, so we get out of their sight and chow down

I just ate pork chops

 

[Tra Phull]

But I did not eat pork chops in front of any weaker brethren

In King James English, MEAT just meant FOOD

What we call MEAT might have been designated FLESH-MEAT

Also, I have never boiled a young goat in it's mother's milk

The real ABOMINATION to me is decaffeinated coffee

 

[Maria Billingsley]

How do we know which abominations are OK with YHWH, and which ones he finds abominable?

We know through His Holy Spirit.
Be blessed and stay healthy.

 

[Saint JOHN]

1cor v 9 ¶ Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,
10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God.

Gal 5 v 19 Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are [these]; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,
20 Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,
21 Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told [you] in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God.


22 But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, longsuffering, gentleness, goodness, faith,
23 Meekness, temperance: against such there is no law.

MUST MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THE HOLY SPIRIT.....(to combat these)...


16 He that believeth and is baptized shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.
17 And these signs shall follow them that "believe;" In my name shall they cast out devils; they shall speak with new tongues;
18 They shall take up serpents; and if they drink any deadly thing, it shall not hurt them; they shall lay hands on the sick, and they shall recover.

most make all sorts of claims but Jesus made it clear !! ( in your face contact with GOD ) and all these are the identifiers of someone GOD has sealed ! NOT EXCUSES.(all of package deal)

Ro 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of his

 

[renniks]

How do we know which abominations are OK with YHWH, and which ones he finds abominable?

For example:

Leviticus 11:12 King James Version (KJV)
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.


Eating shrimp is an abomination according to Leviticus.

Leviticus 18:22 King James Version (KJV)
22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

So is homosexuality according to Leviticus.

How do we know where to draw the line?

So is wearing mixed fabrics or cutting your hair, according to Leviticus. But we are not subject to levitical law.