God has us here for a purpose, Ace of Hearts! Keep up the good fight! But really, the battle is not ours, but God's, and Jesus already has the VICTORY!So it causes me to wonder in awe how such a one can call themselves a Christian. It surely must be true all one has to do to post in this section of CF labeled for Christians only is to say they're a Christian. Personally I think its a black eye in both Christianity and the forum.
Hosea 2:11 is telling of the One who gives rest, Jesus Christ (Matthew 11:28)!
Hallalujah! Ace of Hearts, that is quite the blessing that you point out that the plural "sabbaths" in Hosea 2:11 is very important since God Himself explains ALL the sabbaths in Leviticus 23. here is the opening passage (Leviticus 23:1-3) that precedes God's explanation of the other sabbaths:
YHVH spoke again to Moses, saying, "Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, 'YHVH'S appointed times which you shall proclaim as holy convocations - My appointed times are these: For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, a holy convocation. You shall not do any work; it is a sabbath to YHVH in all your dwellings.'"
Jesus the Christ eloquently demonstrates and explains about the Sabbath that does tie into Hosea 2:11 in John 5:7-18 (the Apostle John states that Jesus was breaking the Sabbath, but Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath [Matthew 12:8] - in verse 18 the scripture does not say "because the Jews accused Him not only of breaking the Sabbath" rather John wrote "because He not only was breaking the Sabbath"):
7 The sick man answered Him, "Sir, I have no man to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up, but while I am coming, another steps down before me."
8 Jesus said to him, "Get up, pick up your pallet and walk."
9 Immediately the man became well, and picked up his pallet and [began] to walk. Now it was the Sabbath on that day.
10 So the Jews were saying to the man who was cured, "It is the Sabbath, and it is not permissible for you to carry your pallet."
11 But he answered them, "He who made me well was the one who said to me, 'Pick up your pallet and walk.'"
12 They asked him, "Who is the man who said to you, 'Pick up [your pallet] and walk '?"
13 But the man who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had slipped away while there was a crowd in [that] place.
14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, "Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you."
15 The man went away, and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
16 For this reason the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because He was doing these things on the Sabbath.
17 But He answered them, "My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working."
18 For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.
THE LORD OF THE SABBATH SAID:"Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to satisfy" (Matthew 5:17)
The passage referenced includes the sabbath.
Yeah you said the same thing about 30 pages. Maybe no one is interested.
That's SDA doctrine, not the Scripture. You've no Scripture showing the sabbath as the Lord's day.
It looks like you just wrote that Jesus' word is not law. But Jesus does issue commandment which is law. Here are the words of the Lord Jesus Christ:
"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments" (John 14:15)
Oh, and God's Word is Jesus as recorded in John 1:1 and John 1:14.
LoveGodsWord, you do not keep Jesus' word because you incessently try to get other people to ignore the meaning of "It is finished" at the cross. You write the implication that people that do not keep the Sabbath are practicing sin thus truly you are practicing LAWLESSNESS. it has been repeatedly demonstrated to you that you are criminally violating much of God's Word, such as:
bearing false witness
trying to twist scripture by adding and subtracting from scripture.
May God open your eyes before it is too late!
More lies, DoesNotLoveGodsWord. You try to distort the Scripture, but the Spirit reveals "His commandments" are Jesus' commandments because it is revealed in 1 John 2:1 that Jesus Christ the righteous is the "His" in "His commandments". The quote above is yet another example of you imposing your words on Scripture, and failing miserably. Cry out to Jesus for mercy, DoesNotLoveGodsWord!
So it causes me to wonder in awe how such a one can call themselves a Christian. It surely must be true all one has to do to post in this section of CF labeled for Christians only is to say they're a Christian. Personally I think its a black eye in both Christianity and the forum.
It doesn't say. And yet it's still part of tradition... which even Protestants somehow follow, despite holding to sola scriptura.
I'm not making fun of that. I mean it in the lightest way.
Say anything you like.Indeed. The ceremonial sabbaths connected to FEAST DAYS that could fall on any day of the week are not God's SEVENTH DAY SABBATH which is the 4th commandment of the 10 commandments.
So you mistakenly think that means I'm interested in taking your view as my own. I'm here defending the truth.Your still here aren't you? If anyone had scripture the OP would be answered already
This verse doesn't say the sabbath is the Lord's day.Not at all it is God's WORD and we should believe and follow it.
Q. WHAT DAY IS THE LORD'S DAY?
MATTHEW 12:8 FOR THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.
To me lawlessness means living a wicked life style.I can understand why you only part posted me brother. The rest of the post explians why LAWLESSNESS means without LAW and having God's WORD but not following it. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it disappear.
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Nope. LAWLESSNESS means to be without LAW. This is the same as having God's WORD and not following God's WORD. JESUS says if we knowingly follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God we are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.
Yes I agree God's people follow God's Word. You however mean God's people follow the law of Moses, specifically the famous 10. In case you still haven't heard we have a New Covenant unlike the previous covenant issued to Israel in the desert after departure from Egypt.God's people are all those who BELIEVE and FOLLOW God's WORD. It is God's WORD that makes it very clear who his people are and the children of the devil.
Hi David
Thanks for your try. However, according to God's WORD it is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH that is the LORD'S DAY.
Q. WHAT DAY IS THE LORD'S DAY?
MATTHEW 12:8 FOR THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.
Do you have any scripture David to show that the LORD'S DAY is referring to SUNDAY or the FIRST DAY of the WEEk?
There is no scripture in all of God's WORD that says that SUNDAY or the FIRST DAY of the week is the LORD'S DAY. There is only scripture that shows that the LORD'S DAY is the SABBATH DAY.
Who should we BELIEVE God or man *ROMANS 3:4? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says all those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.
Thanks for trying to answer the OP though David.
In your quotation the day is still called the Sabbath day, I do not understand how you think you answered that question?Q. WHAT DAY IS THE LORD'S DAY?
MATTHEW 12:8 FOR THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.
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