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Featured WHERE DOES IT SAY GOD'S SABBATH IS ABOLSIHED AND WE ARE COMMANDED TO KEEP SUNDAY AS A HOLY DAY?

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  1. Selene03

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    How would you know? Scripture says that God will stop ALL the celebration. That includes the Sabbath.
     
  2. LoveGodsWord

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    Now after 34 pages seems no one is able to answer a single question from the OP here.....

    The challenge I am putting up here in the OP is for anyone to show even one scripture that says God's 4th Commandment of the 10 commandments (Exodus 20:8-11) which was spoken and written by God himself to his people, has been abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

    Can anyone please show me where in all the bible does is say (SOLA SCRIPTURA; Scripture only please)...

    1. That God's 4th commandments 7th day Sabbath has been abolished?

    2. That Jesus is a Sabbath?

    3. The Sabbath (seventh day) was ever changed from the seventh to the first day of the week?

    4. Where we are told to keep the first day of the week holy?

    5. Where the first day of the week (Sunday) is ever called a holy day?

    6. That says that Jesus ever kept the first day (Sunday)?

    7. That tells us to keep the first day in honour of the resurrection of Christ?

    8. Where the first day is ever given any sacred name?

    9. That affirms that any of the apostles ever kept the first day as the Sabbath?

    10. From any apostolic writings that authorizes Sunday observance as the Sabbath of God?

    11. Where we are told not to work on the first day of the week?

    12. That says the seventh day is no longer God's Sabbath day?

    13. That says the seventh day Sabbath is ABOLISHED?

    14. Where the apostles ever taught any convert to keep the first day of the week as a Sabbath?

    15. Where the first day was ever appointed to be kept as the Lord's Day?

    16. Where the first day of the week is ever called the Lord's Day?

    17. That says that the first day of the week was ever sanctified and hallowed as a day of rest?

    18. That says that the Father or the Son (Jesus) rested on the first day of the week?

    19. That says that Jesus, Paul or any other of the apostles taught anyone to observe the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

    20. That calls the seventh day the “Jewish Sabbath” or one text that calls Sunday the “Christian Sabbath”?

    21. Telling man to keep the first day of the week holy or to worship or rest on the first day of the week?

    22. Authorizing anyone to set aside God's Sabbath and observe any other day?

    23. Showing any of the apostles keeping the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

    24. Authorizing someone to set aside the fourth Commandment and observe any other day of the week?

    25. Where any apostle taught us to keep the first day of the week as the Sabbath?

    26. Declaring that the seventh day is no longer the Eternal Sabbath day?

    27. Where Sunday is now appointed to be kept as the New Testament Sabbath or holy day?

    ...................

    Something to think about here because we are all accountable to God come judgment day where we will all be judged by the Word of God (John 12:47-48).

    God's Word makes it very clear that if we follow the teachings of men over the Word of God we are not following God...

    MATTHEW 15:3-9 [3],
    [3], But he answered and said unto them, Why do you also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?
    [4], For God commanded, saying, Honor your father and mother: and, He that curses father or mother, let him die the death.
    [5], But you say, Whosoever shall say to his father or his mother, It is a gift devoted to God, whatsoever you might have received from me;
    [6], And honors not his father or his mother, he shall be free. Thus have you made the commandment of God void by your tradition.
    [7], You hypocrites, well did Isaiah prophesy of you, saying,
    [8], These people draw near unto me with their mouth, and honor me with their lips; but their heart is far from me.
    [9], But in vain they do worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.

    If we are KNOWINGLY breaking ANY of God's commandments we are not worshipping God.

    Look forward to your thoughts...
     
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  3. LoveGodsWord

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    How? God's WORD. Read the scriptures provided to you in the post you are quoting from. The scripture you provided in HOSEA is in relation to the ANNUAL FEAST DAYS. The linked sections provides a detailed look at the scriptures. If you do not know what the OLD COVENANT is how can you understand what the NEW COVENANT is that the OLD COVENANT points to?

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  4. klutedavid

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    You are claiming that no one can answer a single question that you asked.

    I will answer one of your questions.
    Here is the verse.

    Revelation 1:10
    I was in the Spirit on the Lord’s day...

    If John was in the Spirit on the Sabbath day, then John would have said so.

    This 'Lord's day' is clearly the day Jesus rose that is why John calls it the Lord's day. Church tradition which is not man's tradition also reinforces this point.

    So there LGW your question has been answered so you can stop the repeating that claim.
     
  5. LoveGodsWord

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    Hi David

    Thanks for your try. However, according to God's WORD it is the SEVENTH DAY SABBATH that is the LORD'S DAY.

    Q. WHAT DAY IS THE LORD'S DAY?

    MATTHEW 12:8 FOR THE SON OF MAN IS LORD EVEN OF THE SABBATH DAY.

    Do you have any scripture David to show that the LORD'S DAY is referring to SUNDAY or the FIRST DAY of the WEEk?

    There is no scripture in all of God's WORD that says that SUNDAY or the FIRST DAY of the week is the LORD'S DAY. There is only scripture that shows that the LORD'S DAY is the SABBATH DAY.

    Who should we BELIEVE God or man *ROMANS 3:4? Only God's WORD is true and we should BELIEVE and FOLLOW it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. JESUS says all those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

    Thanks for trying to answer the OP though David.
     
  6. Kermos

    Kermos God is the Potter, and we are the clay.

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    LoveGodsWord, 34 pages and you are still deceived in sin. You keep typing (or copying) the text of Romans 13:8-10, but you do not read it with the Holy Spirit because opposing your words the Holy Spirit had Paul write:

    "he who loves his neighbor has sastisfied the law" (Romans 13:8)

    "love is the fulfillment of the law" (Romans 13:10)

    The Holy Spirit is clear, but you and your words are distorted by your sin, LoveGodsWord!

    AS RECORDED BY THE APOSTLE MATTHEW, THE LORD JESUS CHRIST SAID:

    "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to satisfy." (Matthew 5:17).

    If you, LoveGodsWord or any of the Judaizers, argue against the words of Jesus recorded in Matthew 5:17 with your words or your imaginations then you are agruing against the Eternal God, and the Word of God said "If you continue in My word, [then] you are truly disciples of Mine; and you will know the truth, and the truth will make you free." Followers of Jesus keep Jesus' word, and people who say that Jesus did not satisify the Law argue against YHWH (for He said "It is finished" on the cross John 19:30.
     
  7. Kermos

    Kermos God is the Potter, and we are the clay.

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    First, it is prudent to bring up 18-22; 31-32, yet God and Savior Jesus did not stop there. Stand aside while God shines forth Light:

    "Therefore you are to be perfect, as your heavenly Father is perfect" said Lord Jesus decisively as recorded in Matthew 5:48 (the last verse of Matthew chapter 5).

    Thus, by the mercy and grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, taking us back to the "Do not commit murder" post, because we inherit Jesus' righteousness since our flesh is imperfect (2 Corinthians 5:21). I thank King Jesus for saying:

    "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to satisfy" (Matthew 5:17)

    Because I, and every believer, would be in big trouble for the terror on the Day of Judgement without the Author and Perfector of the faith saying "satisfy" and:

    "It is finished" (John 19:30)

    at the cross. And, Jesus did not stop speaking at the end of Matthew chapter 5, He continued with His word, such as:

    "So every good tree bears good fruit, but the bad tree bears bad fruit." (Matthew 7:17)

    Jesus even answers who produces "good fruit":

    "But he who practices the truth comes to the Light, so that his deeds may be manifested as having been wrought in God." (John 3:21)

    Praise be to the One Who was and is and is to come, Jesus, Who said "deeds" with "wrought in God"! And Jesus confirms this being through the Holy Spirit with:

    "I will ask the Father, and He will give you another Helper, that He may be with you forever; [that is] the Spirit of truth, whom the world cannot receive, because it does not see Him or know Him, [but] you know Him because He abides with you and will be in you." (John 14:16-17)

    And the Apostle Paul (you know, he's the one who the Holy Spirit had pen "he who loves his neighbor has sastisfied the law" (Romans 13:8]) writing in the Holy Spirit said "the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness, self-control; against such things there is no law" (Galations 5:22-23) in accord with the words of Jesus, yet you, LoveGodsWord, keep writing things contrary to "against such things there is no law".

    So, because of this Almighty Indwelling God, we believers are perfected in Christ throuh His atonement made at the cross to cover ALL sin for believers.

    LAWLESSNESS is not keeping Jesus' word because Jesus said:

    "If anyone loves Me, he will keep My word; and My Father will love him, and We will come to him and make Our abode with him. He who does not love Me does not keep My words" (John 14:23-24).

    And Jesus satisfies the Law, every single one of the laws recorded in the Torah including the Ten Commandments. Period. Jesus said so, and anyone who says differently is a liar and a theif. Anyone who says differently is not a Christian because Jesus is the Christ in Christian, and Jesus' word matters!

    This is the day which YHVH has made; Let us rejoice and be glad in it. (Psalm 118:24) Yes, every day in the rest given by Jesus!

    LoveGodsWord, you need to read Matthew 5:17 with the Holy Spirit to understand Matthew 5:17! Only God can help you with that, cry out to Jesus and beg the Redeemer for the Holy Spirit!
     
  8. LoveGodsWord

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    You are confused brother. Do you know what SIN is?

    WHAT IS SIN?

    NEW TESTAMENT SCRIPTURES

    JAMES 2:8-12
    [8], If ye fulfill the royal law according to the scripture, Thou shalt love thy neighbor as thyself, ye do well:
    [9], But if ye have respect to persons, YOU COMMIT SIN, AND ARE CONVINCED OF THE LAW AS TRANSGRESSORS.
    [10], For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.
    [11] For he that said, DO NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, said also, DO NOT KILL. Now if thou commit NO ADULTERY, yet if thou KILL, YOU ARE BECOME A TRANSGRESSOR OF GOD'S LAW

    Yep, James is pretty clear if we brake ANY of God's Law (10 commandments) then we are a TRANSGRESSOR of God's LAW and commit SIN. James quotes two of the 10 Commandments saying that if we break them we commit sin v9 that are summed up in the 2nd great commandments of LOVE to God and LOVE to our neighbour in v11. Maybe you missed that one?

    ROMANS 7:7 [7], What shall we say then? is the law sin? God forbid. Nay, I HAD NOT KNOWN SIN, BUT BY THE LAW: for I had not known lust, EXCEPT THE LAW HAD SAID YOU SHALL NOT COVET.

    Well here we have Paul in agreement with James and John also telling us that he did not know what sin was without God's 10 Commandments. SIN is breaking God's commandments and Paul uses the 10th commandment as an example of breaking any of God's LAW (10 commandments) = SIN (Exodus 20:17)

    links to...

    1 JOHN 3:4 [4] Whosoever commits SIN transgresses also the law: for SIN is the transgression of the law.

    John is saying the same thing as James and Paul and states that if we TRANSGRESS God's LAW then we commit SIN because SIN IS THE TRANSGRESSION OF GOD'S LAW. So it is very clear that SIN is breaking ANY of God's LAW (10 commandments). We will look at the chapter context John uses v15 of MURDER as an example of sin which is God's 6th Command of the 10.

    Sin is indeed defined in God's WORD as breaking any of the 10 Commandments in both the OLD and NEW TESTAMENT scriptures.

    God's 4th commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of sin when broken *EXODUS 20:8-11; ROMANS 3:20.

    All those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

    Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

    ...........

    God's ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) are not separate to LOVE as God's LAW is establsihed through LOVE. This is why JESUS says; ON THESE TWO COMMANDMENTS of LOVE HANG ALL THE LAW and the prophets *MATTHEW 22:36-40. They are God's WORD not mine and God's WORD says...

    ROMANS 13:8-10
    8 Owe nothing to anyone except to love one another; for HE WHO HAS LOVED HIS NEIGHBOR HAS FULFILLED THE LAW. 9 For this, "YOU SHALL NOT COMMIT ADULTERY, YOU SHALL NOT MURDER, YOU SHALL NOT STEAL, YOU SHALL NOT COVET," and if there is any other commandment, it IS SUMMED UP IN THE SAYING, "YOU SHALL LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR AS YOURSELF." 10 Love does no wrong to a neighbor; therefore love is the fulfillment of the law.

    Sorry brother God's WORD does not teach lawlessness. In the NEW COVENANT God's WORD says that God's ETERNAL LAW (10 Commandments) give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is when they are broken *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4.

    God's WORD says that God's 4th Commandment is one of God's 10 commandments *EXODUS 20:80-11 that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is when broken *ROMANS 3:20.

    It is God's WORD again that says if we break any one of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11. According to God's WORD, All those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23.

    OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50. These are God's WORD not mine brother.

    God's WORD does not teach lawlessness. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear.

    Hope this helps.
     
  9. LoveGodsWord

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    God's Spirit is the Spirit of the a Word of God. You have been provided with God's WORD not my word that you ignore. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear as God's WORD is eternal *ISAIAH 40:8; 1 PETER 1:25; LUKE 21:33. You provide your own words which are not God's WORD. What Spirit do you have? God's Spirit works through God's WORD *JOHN 6:63 not apart from God's WORD. So how do we know if we have God's SPIRIT and know God? It is the WORD of God that tells the truth and ONLY God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. It is JESUS that says those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God brother not me *MATTHEW 15:3-9. How do we know if we KNOW God and walk in his Spirit?

    1 JOHN 2:3-4
    [3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
    [4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) in the NEW COVENANT give us the KNOWLEDGE of SIN when broken *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4. God's WORD says that if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN.

    God's 4th Commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of SIN when broken. According to God's WORD alone,

    All those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

    Sorry brother God's WORD does not teach lawlessness.
     
  10. LoveGodsWord

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    Sadly it is not me that is teaching lawlessness. It is God's WORD that says

    1 JOHN 2:3-4 [3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
    [4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    It is JESUS that also says in CONTEXT;

    MATTHEW 5:17-22
    [17], Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill.
    [18], For truly I say to you, Till heaven and earth pass, one stroke or one pronunciation mark shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.
    [19], Whoever therefore shall break one of these least commandments, and shall teach men so, he shall be called the least in the kingdom of heaven: but whoever shall do and teach them, the same shall be called great in the kingdom of heaven.
    [20], For I say to you, That except your righteousness shall exceed the righteousness of the scribes and Pharisees, you shall in no case enter into the kingdom of heaven.

    JESUS came to magnify the LAW from the INSIDE OUT quoting MATTHEW 5:17-32 (thoughts and feelings) in fulfillment of *ISAIAH 42:21. This is to show that unless our RIGHTOUESNESS EXCEEDS the RIGHTOUESNESS of the Scribes and Pharisees we can in no way enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN. Jesus is saying the problem runs deeper then outward observance to the 10 Commandments. EVIL begins in the HEART. BREAKING GOD's 10 COMMANDMENTS from the heart defile a man *MATTHEW 15:18-19. JESUS is saying we can be outwardly perfect and blameless like the Scribes and Pharisee but inwardly like dead mans bones *MATTHEW 23:27-28. JESUS magnified the LAW to the INSIDE OUT. To show us that we are all sinners in need of a Saviour and that sin originates in the HEART (thoughts and feelings). That is why we have the NEW COVENANT promise and need to be BORN AGAIN by Faith in God's WORD for salvation to be free from SIN (breaking any one of God's 10 commandments) *HEBREWS 8:10-12; 1 JOHN 3:3-10.

    If we are not BORN AGAIN into the NEW COVENANT promise and continue in it we will not enter the kingdom of Heaven *1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 2:3-4. ALL those who KNOWINGLY break any one of God's 10 commandments stand guilty before God of sin *JAMES 2:10-11. All those who KNOWINGLY CONTINUE in UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into God's KINGDOM *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. God's 4th Commandment is one of the 10 Commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what sin is. There is no such thing as the 9 commandments in God's WORD. The same as there is no scripure that says God's 4th commandment is Abolished and we are now commanded to keep Sunday as a Holy day.

    RIGHTESOUSNESS comes from LOVE because LOVE is the fulfilling of God's LAW and the very expression of what LOVE is *ROMANS 13:8-10. He that does not LOVE does not KNOW GOD for GOD IS LOVE * 1 JOHN 4:8. All those who are BORN AGAIN have a NEW HEART TO LOVE and FOLLOW GOD *1 JOHN 4:7. This is the NEW COVENANT promise *HEBREWS 8:10-12. Those who are BORN AGAIN do not practice SIN (breaking God's Commandments) *1 JOHN 3:4-9. This is why JOHN finishes on this subject by saying; For this is the love of God, that we keep his commandments: and his commandments are not grievous *1 JOHN 5:3 and is why JESUS says IF you LOVE me KEEP my commandments *JOHN 14:15. UNLESS we are BORN AGAIN under the NEW COVENANT to LOVE we will not enter the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *JOHN 3:3-7. We need to be changed from the INSIDE OUT

    Sadly many have broken lamps and have lost their way. How can we find our way when the road is dark and narrow and our lamp goes out *PROVERBS 6:23; PSALMS 119:105; MATTHEW 7:14; 2 TOMOTHY 3:1-5.

    Sorry brother God's WORD does not teach lawlessness.
     
  11. LoveGodsWord

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    God's Spirit is the Spirit of the a Word of God. You have been provided with God's WORD not my word that you ignore. Ignoring God's WORD does not make it dissappear as God's WORD is eternal *ISAIAH 40:8; 1 PETER 1:25; LUKE 21:33. You provide your own words which are not God's WORD. What Spirit do you have? God's Spirit works through God's WORD *JOHN 6:63 not apart from God's WORD. So how do we know if we have God's SPIRIT and know God? It is the WORD of God that tells the truth and ONLY God's WORD is true and we should believe and follow it over the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God. It is JESUS that says those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God brother not me *MATTHEW 15:3-9. How do we know if we KNOW God and walk in his Spirit?

    1 JOHN 2:3-4
    [3], And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
    [4], He that said, I know him, and keeps not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.

    God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) in the NEW COVENANT give us the KNOWLEDGE of SIN when broken *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4. God's WORD says that if we break any one of God's 10 Commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN.

    God's 4th Commandment is one of God's 10 commandments that give us the KNOWLEDGE of SIN when broken. According to God's WORD alone,

    All those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

    Sorry brother God's WORD does not teach lawlessness.
     
  12. LoveGodsWord

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    Nope. LAWLESSNESS means to be without LAW. This is the same as having God's WORD and not following God's WORD. JESUS says if we knowingly follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God we are not following God *MATTHEW 15:3-9.

    God's ETERNAL LAW (10 commandments) give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is when broken *ROMANS 3:20; ROMANS 7:7; 1 JOHN 3:4. God's WORD says that if we break any one of God's 10 commandments we stand guilty before God of SIN *JAMES 2:10-11. God's 4th commnandment is one of God's 10 commandments *EXODUS 20:8-11 that give us the KNOWLEDGE of what SIN is when broken. According to JESUS all those who KNOWINGLY follow the teachings and traditions of men that break the commandments of God are not following God. Who should we believe God or man *ROMANS 3:4; ACTS 5:29?

    JESUS did indeed satisfty all the requirements of the law in order to be our perfect sacrifice. JESUS did not satisfy the requirements of the LAW so that we are now free to break it and live in sin (break God's LAW).

    All those who CONTINUE in KNOWN UNREPENTANT SIN will not enter into the KINGDOM of HEAVEN *HEBREWS 10:26-27 because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23. OBEDIENCE to God's LAW is not how we are saved it is the FRUIT of God's work in us as we BELIEVE and FOLLOW his WORD. If our faith has no fruit it is dead *JAMES 2:18-20; 26 and our tree will be cast down and thrown into the fire *MATTHEW 3:10; 7:19-20; 13:49-50.

    Sorry brother God's WORD does not teach lawlessness (without law). All those who KNOWINGLY SIN (breaking God's LAW) and promote it do not know God and need to be BORN AGAIN *1 JOHN 2:3-4; 1 JOHN 3:3-10. All those who continue in Sin will die in sin because they reject the gift of God's dear son *ROMANS 6:23; ROMANS 6:16.

    Hope this helps
     
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    Yeah you said the same thing about 30 pages. Maybe no one is interested.
     
  14. Kermos

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    Thank you Jesus for Selene03! Hosea 2:11 is telling of the One who gives rest, Jesus Christ (Matthew 11:28)!

    Hallalujah! Ace of Hearts, that is quite the blessing that you point out that the plural "sabbaths" in Hosea 2:11 is very important since God Himself explains ALL the sabbaths in Leviticus 23. here is the opening passage (Leviticus 23:1-3) that precedes God's explanation of the other sabbaths:

    YHVH spoke again to Moses, saying, "Speak to the sons of Israel and say to them, 'YHVH'S appointed times which you shall proclaim as holy convocations - My appointed times are these: For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day there is a sabbath of complete rest, a holy convocation. You shall not do any work; it is a sabbath to YHVH in all your dwellings.'"

    Jesus the Christ eloquently demonstrates and explains about the Sabbath that does tie into Hosea 2:11 in John 5:7-18 (the Apostle John states that Jesus was breaking the Sabbath, but Jesus is Lord of the Sabbath [Matthew 12:8] - in verse 18 the scripture does not say "because the Jews accused Him not only of breaking the Sabbath" rather John wrote "because He not only was breaking the Sabbath"):

    7 The sick man answered Him, "Sir, I have no man to put me into the pool when the water is stirred up, but while I am coming, another steps down before me."
    8 Jesus said to him, "Get up, pick up your pallet and walk."
    9 Immediately the man became well, and picked up his pallet and [began] to walk. Now it was the Sabbath on that day.
    10 So the Jews were saying to the man who was cured, "It is the Sabbath, and it is not permissible for you to carry your pallet."
    11 But he answered them, "He who made me well was the one who said to me, 'Pick up your pallet and walk.'"
    12 They asked him, "Who is the man who said to you, 'Pick up [your pallet] and walk '?"
    13 But the man who was healed did not know who it was, for Jesus had slipped away while there was a crowd in [that] place.
    14 Afterward Jesus found him in the temple and said to him, "Behold, you have become well; do not sin anymore, so that nothing worse happens to you."
    15 The man went away, and told the Jews that it was Jesus who had made him well.
    16 For this reason the Jews were persecuting Jesus, because He was doing these things on the Sabbath.
    17 But He answered them, "My Father is working until now, and I Myself am working."
    18 For this reason therefore the Jews were seeking all the more to kill Him, because He not only was breaking the Sabbath, but also was calling God His own Father, making Himself equal with God.

    THE LORD OF THE SABBATH SAID:

    "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to satisfy" (Matthew 5:17)
     
  15. ace of hearts

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    The passage referenced includes the sabbath.
     
  16. ace of hearts

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    That's SDA doctrine, not the Scripture. You've no Scripture showing the sabbath as the Lord's day.
     
  17. Kermos

    Kermos God is the Potter, and we are the clay.

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    It looks like you just wrote that Jesus' word is not law. But Jesus does issue commandment which is law. Here are the words of the Lord Jesus Christ:

    "If you love Me, you will keep My commandments" (John 14:15)

    Oh, and God's Word is Jesus as recorded in John 1:1 and John 1:14.

    LoveGodsWord, you do not keep Jesus' word because you incessently try to get other people to ignore the meaning of "It is finished" at the cross. You write the implication that people that do not keep the Sabbath are practicing sin thus truly you are practicing LAWLESSNESS. it has been repeatedly demonstrated to you that you are criminally violating much of God's Word, such as:

    bearing false witness
    trying to twist scripture by adding and subtracting from scripture.

    May God open your eyes before it is too late!
     
  18. ace of hearts

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    So it causes me to wonder in awe how such a one can call themselves a Christian. It surely must be true all one has to do to post in this section of CF labeled for Christians only is to say they're a Christian. Personally I think its a black eye in both Christianity and the forum.
     
  19. Kermos

    Kermos God is the Potter, and we are the clay.

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    You lie, LoveGodsWord, your words are full of deceit as has been shown to you again and again in Scripture.

    You say that Jesus does not satisfy the law, but Jesus said:

    "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to satisfy." (Matthew 5:17)

    And, Jesus said:

    "It is finished" (John 19:30)

    You try to manipulate people just like the devil tried to tempt Jesus in this passage:

    And the tempter came and said to Him, "If You are the Son of God, command that these stones become bread."
    But He answered and said, "It is written, 'MAN SHALL NOT LIVE ON BREAD ALONE, BUT ON EVERY WORD THAT PROCEEDS OUT OF THE MOUTH OF GOD.'"

    (Matthew 4:3-4)

    You act like your words are bread, but your words are poison. You try to manipulate scripture into something that fits your imagination, and you try to impose your imaginations on other people!

    Lord Jesus said:

    "Do not think that I came to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I did not come to abolish but to satisfy." (Matthew 5:17)

    "It is finished" (John 19:30)

    You are practicing sin, LoveGodsWord, and in further posts, if God allows, I will call you DoesNotLoveGodsWord because it truly describes you up to this point.

    May God open your eyes.
     
  20. Kermos

    Kermos God is the Potter, and we are the clay.

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    More lies, DoesNotLoveGodsWord. You try to distort the Scripture, but the Spirit reveals "His commandments" are Jesus' commandments because it is revealed in 1 John 2:1 that Jesus Christ the righteous is the "His" in "His commandments".

    The quote above is yet another example of you imposing your words on Scripture, and failing miserably.

    Cry out to Jesus for mercy, DoesNotLoveGodsWord!
     
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