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What value is Homosexuality to society?

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ArgentBear

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No, people are choosing their sexual orietation based on what they feel like doing and not on if it's right or not. Homosexuality has no value for society and deserves no special honors or encouragement.
Gays and lesbians don’t choose their sexual orientation. They only choose to not lie and pretend to be heterosexuals
 
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Everyone dies. Everyone dies in sin, apparently. And plenty of people are unrepentant about those sins (Chrsitians and non-Christians both). So why single out homosexuality?

I didn't single out anything. Homosexual sex acts just happened to be the sin about which we were talking.
 
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*Holds up mirror*

What is it with yall and these mirrors?
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No it does not. You dislike the fact that I don’t accept your personal interpretation of God’s word …big difference there

If that makes you feel better about your decision to disobey, you do you. You've been given God's Truth and will duly be held responsible when you stand before Him for that Truth.

I won't be losing any sleep over your conscious decision to not receive His Truth.
 
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There's that same old errant excuse again that says that the majority don't understand what sin is.

Sin is sin because of it's relationship to a HOLY GOD NOT because of it's relationship to whether or not it hurts another human being.

God is HOLY. Homosexual sex goes against what He commands in His Holiness.

Sin is sin because it is against HIM not against another human.

Your privilege to believe this. I prefer the definition advanced by our Lord and Savior: Sin is what does not conform to love of God with all one's heart, soul, mind, and strength, and one's neighbor as oneself. I will concede that the definition based on whether it hurts another sounds strongly like the Wiccan Rede, and is not by itself an adequate definition for Christians. But, Zaac, neither (IMO) is yours. According to the Parable of the Last udgmentb (Sheep and Goats), love of God is love of one's fellow man; whether one complies with the latter is taken as compying with the former.
 
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Gays and lesbians don’t choose their sexual orientation. They only choose to not lie and pretend to be heterosexuals

Homosexual men and women choose to have sex with the same sex. This is something they do not have to do.

I could easily say that this or that guy really makes my life miserable and I choose to kill him. Now I'm a murderer in the eyes of JESUS the moment I wish the guy harm, but by not following through with the thought, I have an opportunity to move on with my life so does the guy I wished to harm...
 
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Homosexual men and women choose to have sex with the same sex. This is something they do not have to do.

You are correct. In a civilized society no one should be forced to have sex with anyone else. Conversly no one should be bared from such behavior either. No matter how much other people might disaprove of it.

I could easily say that this or that guy really makes my life miserable and I choose to kill him. Now I'm a murderer in the eyes of JESUS the moment I wish the guy harm, but by not following through with the thought, I have an opportunity to move on with my life so does the guy I wished to harm...

Thats nice. Thanks for not being a raving phsycopath.
 
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You are correct. In a civilized society no one should be forced to have sex with anyone else. Conversly no one should be bared from such behavior either. No matter how much other people might disaprove of it.

Who is barring homosexuals from engaging in consentual homosexual sex?
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You are correct. In a civilized society no one should be forced to have sex with anyone else. Conversly no one should be bared from such behavior either. No matter how much other people might disaprove of it.



Thats nice. Thanks for not being a raving phsycopath.

While I do not agree with homosexuality, I do not seek the blood of those so involved; however, when society then asks me to accept "gay" marriage, I see that as a direct assult against real marriage and society at large.

No one, including businesses, schools, and communities should be asked to agree with "gay" marriage. Nor should they fear to disagree with those trying to so persuade society.
 
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While I do not agree with homosexuality, I do not seek the blood of those so involved; however, when society then asks me to accept "gay" marriage, I see that as a direct assult against real marriage and society at large.
Yeah…and forty years ago a lot of people say the legalization of interracial marriage saw a direct assault against real marriage and society at large

No one, including businesses, schools, and communities should be asked to agree with "gay" marriage. Nor should they fear to disagree with those trying to so persuade society.
No one, including businesses, schools, and communities should be allowed to discriminate against minorities. Nor should minorities fear to live honestly and openly anywhere
 
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Yeah…and forty years ago a lot of people say the legalization of interracial marriage saw a direct assault against real marriage and society at large


No one, including businesses, schools, and communities should be allowed to discriminate against minorities. Nor should minorities fear to live honestly and openly anywhere

Gay marriage isn't honest. It is fake and exists only to spite conservatives and make a statement. Over 200 years ago, people were marrying American Indians, so what you are saying is wrong. The main issue with whites marrying blacks is that of the real possibility of pigment skin blotching of the children and that was a concern.
 
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Gay marriage isn't honest. It is fake and exists only to spite conservatives and make a statement.
No, in point of fact they want the benefits that are afforded the rest of society. Oddly enough their wanting marriage has nothing to do with you.

Over 200 years ago, people were marrying American Indians, so what you are saying is wrong. The main issue with whites marrying blacks is that of the real possibility of pigment skin blotching of the children and that was a concern.

You know, if you are going to try to rewrite history you should try to pick history that is less well known.

Anti-miscegenation laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
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And they don’t choose their orientation
They do choose to not lie about who they are and who they love


They choose who they will make sex with... They lie when they call going from person to person to person the result of inborn love orientation. But I can just imagine the nasty remarks homosexuals might come up with if we suddenly decided that one's sexual identity was the result of breeding.
 
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What about atheist marriages?

Atheists can believe in having children and that sex is for producing same. And no one is suggesting that anyone cannot enjoy having sex ---- as long as one knows what it's for and have it only with one's husband or wife after marriage.
 
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Little Nipper, are you going to respond to my last post to you?

Originally Posted by LittleNipper
At the moment government seems to be falling for the idea that anything two people desire to do between themselves is okay and that constitutes marriage. I feel strongly that that is wrong and is slavery.
Okay, really? Slavery? How is gay marriage slavery? And how is it wrong to let people do what they want? Did God take away our free will and make us follow Him?
 
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Gay marriage isn't honest. It is fake and exists only to spite conservatives and make a statement.

American Independence existed only to spite George III. :p

Over 200 years ago, people were marrying American Indians, so what you are saying is wrong.

Only in certain states...






U.S States, by the date of repeal of anti-miscegenation laws:
Grey = No laws passed
Green = Before 1887
Yellow = 1948 to 1967
Red = 12 June 1967 (After SCOTUS decided Loving v. Virginia)

So what you're saying is wrong.

The main issue with whites marrying blacks is that of the real possibility of pigment skin blotching of the children and that was a concern.

Funny, but when Seaborn Rodenberry (D-GA) proposed an anti-interracial marriage amendment in 1912, he never bothered to mention that. Instead, he said,

Seaborn Rodenberry said:
"Intermarriage between whites and blacks is repulsive and averse to every sentiment of pure American spirit. It is abhorrent and repugnant to the very principles of Saxon government. It is subversive of social peace. It is destructive of moral supremacy, and ultimately this slavery of white women to black beasts will bring this nation a conflict as fatal as ever reddened the soil of Virginia or crimsoned the mountain paths of Pennsylvania. ... Let us uproot and exterminate now this debasing, ultra-demoralizing, un-American and inhuman leprosy"

So what you're saying is wrong... again.
 
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No, in point of fact they want the benefits that are afforded the rest of society. Oddly enough their wanting marriage has nothing to do with you.



You know, if you are going to try to rewrite history you should try to pick history that is less well known.

Anti-miscegenation laws - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

No one is telling a homosexual man that he cannot marry some nice lady and have children and all the benefits that go with same (becoming a daddy/father and a loving husband.

A single person doesn't get social benefits of marriage --- nor does such aan individual expect any ----------YET. People would say such a person (should such complain) has only himself to blame.

If a man decides to lay naked on the beach on a sunny day, he cannot blame others for his severe case of sunburn and expect not the suffer on his own account.

The choices are out there for everyone. And every choice has its good and bad points. The homosexuals need to get over their whinning and grow up ----- accept the responsibilities for their own lot in life. They can always rethink their choices.

PS> The homosexual guy can always find himself a lady with a mustache, hairy legs and bad breath. Just think of the possibilities!
 
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