What value is Homosexuality to society?

[ArgentBear]

Homosexual activity has been shown to be inferior to heterosexual marital relationships,

How?
By whom?
The only thing shown is your personal prejudice

both in extablishment of a procreated family, to physical damage inflicted by misuse of body parts, to the serious spread of diseases due to liberal attitudes established with concern to sexual prowess.

We aren’t talking about the loose morals of heterosexuals here…try to stay on topic

 

[Skaloop]

Our son is now 13 and even if he were 50, he's still be my little boy and his mother's baby. And once a couple has procreated, they have established a family unit...

Not necessarily. There are plenty of couples who have procreated and been far from established family units.

 

[ArgentBear]

Because they can't bother to take context, language, and culture into account when they read it or study it.

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Instead, they have to use it to back whatever they want it to.

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They look for things to back their opinion rather than the other way around.

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[Zaac]

God’s commands are God’s commands. All you are doing is cherry picking commands you would prefer to ignore and cherry picking commands you want to use to attack others

Yes they are. But you aren't a Jew. And He gave certain ceremonial and ritualistic laws to the JEWS, not the Gentiles.

That's not cherry picking. That's understanding the difference between Levitical law and the completed law which you obviously do not. Thus you and others continue to use laws that were not intended for the Gentiles in order to justify your Gentile disobedience.

How many Jews do you know that still go around stoning people?

 

[Zaac]

All this time you've said 'it' is a sin, without defining what 'it' is. Not a good idea.

My bad. I'll just make sure that I say homosexual sex acts from now on.

 

[LittleNipper]

So where's the harm in homosexuality? You earlier cited false information about misuse of body parts and the spread of disease; those would be confined to acts, not orientation.

Homosexual sex involves anal penetration and that alone is a highly questionable sexual practice. Oral sex to the extent gay men perform it is also dangerously as a probable cause of mouth cancer from viral transmission.

 

[ArgentBear]

Nope. Gays and lesbians are capable of loving just like everybody else. But Biblically speaking, to be in love demands that you be in Christ, the One Who is Love. That Agape love is not the same as the love to which a lot of folks in here are referring.

No it’s the same.
What other minorities are you saying are incapable of love agape or otherwise?

 

[Supreme]

People choose their sexual orientation on the grounds of 'value to society' nowadays, do they?

What a load of rubbish...

 

[Zaac]

So where's the harm in homosexuality?

The harm to whom? For the one who continues in it unrepentantly, the harm is death. Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

But the trespass is against GOD. That is why it is a sin.

You earlier cited false information about misuse of body parts and the spread of disease; those would be confined to acts, not orientation.

I quoted no such thing.

 

[Skaloop]

Homosexual sex involves anal penetration and that alone is a highly questionable sexual practice. Oral sex to the extent gay men perform it is also dangerously as a probable cause of mouth cancer from viral transmission.

Bullplop. You definitelty need to cite some source for the mouth cancer part. If it were true, far more women would have mouth cancer than would gay men.

And neither anal nor oral sex are at all exclusive or necessary to homosexuals. In fact, lesbians don't generally do anal penetration nor oral sex to "the extent gay men" do.

 

[SOAD]

Homosexual sex involves anal penetration and that alone is a highly questionable sexual practice. Oral sex to the extent gay men perform it is also dangerously as a probable cause of mouth cancer from viral transmission.

There are sick people all over the place infecting others. Sexually transmitted diseases are not limited to homosexual sex.

Outside of the Bible, you have no argument.

 

[ArgentBear]

Homosexual sex involves anal penetration and that alone is a highly questionable sexual practice.

That is a very different claim from what you made before.

You were also asked to provide evidence for your claims. One cannot help but notice you continue to refuse to back up your claims

Oral sex to the extent gay men perform it is also dangerously as a probable cause of mouth cancer from viral transmission.

Please provide reliable references showing support for these claims

 

[Zaac]

No it’s the same.
What other minorities are you saying are incapable of love agape or otherwise?

You can say it's the same if that is the lie you CHOOSE to believe. But God's word disagrees with you. ANd as a Christian, you either stand in witness of His Truth or you stand in witness of a truth that is against Him.

You can't serve two masters. Either you're gonna be ruled by God and HIS WAY or you're gonna be ruled by this way that tells you that which He says is sinful is not.

So choose you this day who you will serve.

At the very least, Christians should be able to acknowledge the truthfulness of God's word. You may not agree with it or keep it all. But you should at least be able to accept it as the Truth.

 

[Zebra1552]

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That's not a discussion. That's ad hominem. If you have nothing to contribute, why are you responding to my posts?

 

[ArgentBear]

Yes they are. But you aren't a Jew. And He gave certain ceremonial and ritualistic laws to the JEWS, not the Gentiles.

That's not cherry picking. That's understanding the difference between Levitical law and the completed law which you obviously do not. Thus you and others continue to use laws that were not intended for the Gentiles in order to justify your Gentile disobedience.

How many Jews do you know that still go around stoning people?

Please explain how prejudice and the attacking of a minority follows the law of loving thy neighbor that Jesus himself set down

 

[LittleNipper]

People choose their sexual orientation on the grounds of 'value to society' nowadays, do they?

What a load of rubbish...

No, people are choosing their sexual orietation based on what they feel like doing and not on if it's right or not. Homosexuality has no value for society and deserves no special honors or encouragement.

 

[Skaloop]

The harm to whom? For the one who continues in it unrepentantly, the harm is death. Romans 6:23
For the wages of sin is death, but the gift of God is eternal life in Christ Jesus our Lord.

But the trespass is against GOD. That is why it is a sin.

Everyone dies. Everyone dies in sin, apparently. And plenty of people are unrepentant about those sins (Chrsitians and non-Christians both). So why single out homosexuality?

I quoted no such thing.

Sorry, must have been someone else. My bad.

 

[Skaloop]

No, people are choosing their sexual orietation based on what they feel like doing and not on if it's right or not. Homosexuality has no value for society and deserves no special honors or encouragement.

Not like heterosexuals, who are always righteous in their sexual behaviour...

 

[ArgentBear]

You can say it's the same if that is the lie you CHOOSE to believe.

*Holds up mirror*

But God's word disagrees with you.

No it does not. You dislike the fact that I don’t accept your personal interpretation of God’s word …big difference there

ANd as a Christian, you either stand in witness of His Truth or you stand in witness of a truth that is against Him.

You can't serve two masters. Either you're gonna be ruled by God and HIS WAY or you're gonna be ruled by this way that tells you that which He says is sinful is not.

So choose you this day who you will serve.

At the very least, Christians should be able to acknowledge the truthfulness of God's word. You may not agree with it or keep it all. But you should at least be able to accept it as the Truth.

Please explain how prejudice and the attacking of a minority following the truth of the law that Jesus himself set down

 

[Zaac]

Please explain how prejudice and the attacking of a minority follows the law of loving thy neighbor that Jesus himself set down

Attacking of who? A sinner is a sinner be he heterosexual or homosexual . A fornicator is a fornicator be he heterosexual or homosexual.

So what minority are you talking about?

You seem to be looking for special treatment of homosexual sinners as opposed to the treatment of heterosexual sinners.