What value is Homosexuality to society?

[SOAD]

Let me counter one question with another. Why do we need another thread on homosexuality?

That should be obvious. One who is obsessed with a topic continues to disuss that topic over and over and over. Let us not forget that obsession leads to sin.

 

[ArgentBear]

Perhaps homosexuality is the essence of small mindedness at work --- a sex is all about me syndrome.

Just like heterosexuality is the essence of small mindedness at work --- a sex is all about me syndrome.

 

[Zebra1552]

That should be obvious. One who is obsessed with a topic continues to disuss that topic over and over and over. Let us not forget that obsession leads to sin.

Yeah, but it's a question I'd like LittleNipper to answer, I'm very curious to see their response...

 

[Zaac]

It would seem most obvious that proper heterosexality (married couple/husband & wife) provides the nucleus for a self-sufficent family unit ---- father/mother ----- grandfather/grandmother.

This would be the most uncomplicated family unit and the most convenient for the raising of future citizens.

But what does homosexuality provide for society. Clearly, one doesn't have to be a homosexual in order to be a great actor or musician, anymore that one needs to be married in order to be a great athelete.

So again heterosexuality does play an important role in the establishment of family and community, but what does homosexuality provide specifically.

If it doesn't have anything to offer, perhaps that is enough to make that lifestyle invalid ---- even presumptuous...

I would venture that we would also have to look at what value lust and greed and adultery and lying and coveting and unrighteous judging, etc., play in society too.

Sin is sin. It is ALL contributing to the spiral down of society.

 

[LittleNipper]

You spent all your time talking about marriage and family. You mentioned them nine times in five sentences. So we are talking about marriage and family.
Heterosexuals are people who happen to life a heterosexual lifestyle. Anyone can have sexual relations with members of the opposite sex but what good does that do for society?

It would seem to be a bad thing unless one in fully committed to being a responsible parent, husband/wife.

 

[LittleNipper]

Yeah, but it's a question I'd like LittleNipper to answer, I'm very curious to see their response...

At the moment government seems to be falling for the idea that anything two people desire to do between themselves is okay and that constitutes marriage. I feel strongly that that is wrong and is simply another form of slavery.

 

[Zebra1552]

At the moment government seems to be falling for the idea that anything two people desire to do between themselves is okay and that constitutes marriage. I feel strongly that that is wrong and is slavery.

Okay, really? Slavery? How is gay marriage slavery? And how is it wrong to let people do what they want? Did God take away our free will and make us follow Him?

 

[ArgentBear]

I would venture that we would also have to look at what value lust and greed and adultery and lying and coveting and unrighteous judging, etc., play in society too.

Sin is sin. It is ALL contributing to the spiral down of society.

I will ask you the same question:
What value is it to be left handed?
What value is it to be blue eyed?
What value is it to have type B blood?
What value is it to have dark skin?

And how does your answer here apply to these other minorities?

 

[Skaloop]

So what if homosexuality has no value for society? Not that I think it doesn't, but for the sake of argument...

Things people do are not judged by their value to society. The clothes I choose to wear, the style of my hair, what I eat for lunch; those have no real value for society. But they are not judged on that. Things people choose to do are judged on the harm to society. What I wear does not harm society in any way. Nor does someone being an active homosexual.

 

[Maynard Keenan]

Just to play Devil's advocate: It can be a small check against dangerous population growth.

 

[Skaloop]

I would venture that we would also have to look at what value lust and greed and adultery and lying and coveting and unrighteous judging, etc., play in society too.

Sin is sin. It is ALL contributing to the spiral down of society.

The things you mention cause harm to others. Homseoxuality does not. Therein lies the difference.

 

[ArgentBear]

It would seem to be a bad thing unless one in fully committed to being a responsible parent, husband/wife.

you just answered your own question. Gays and lesbians form families just like heterosexuals do and families, no matter what their structure and have intrinsic value

Now that we are agreeing we are talking about families…To return to the post you ignored and tried to sidetrack here:
The best family unit is one built on love and dedication to other family members.
And that describes a whole array of families


But perhaps you have actual legitimate research showing that kids raised by same gendered parents are deficient in some way (everything I have read shows that children raised by same sex parents are happy, healthy and well adjusted)…if you know of studies showing otherwise why not share that research with all of us?

 

[keith99]

Just to play Devil's advocate: It can be a small check against dangerous population growth.

Considering that in Rats it has been observed that as population density becomes higher homosexual behaviour increases it may in fact be a vital check on population.

 

[Zaac]

I will ask you the same question:
What value is it to be left handed?
What value is it to be blue eyed?
What value is it to have type B blood?
What value is it to have dark skin?

And how does your answer here apply to these other minorities?

Does God say that the things in your list are sinful? If not, what is the relevance to my comment?

 

[ArgentBear]

Just to play Devil's advocate: It can be a small check against dangerous population growth.

If memory serves in non-technological cultures around the world homosexual couples don’t impact the total population but serve as a safety net for orphaned children. Children without parents are adopted by their gay and lesbian neighbors to be raised.

This pattern seems to re-emerging in western culture as same gendered couples gain legal recognition and adoption rights. I have a friend who works for an adoption agency and she notes that gay couples not only are more willing to adopt a child they are more willing to adopt children that heterosexual couples find undesirable…handicapped, bi-racial…special needs…substance abuse addicted etc.

 

[Belk]

Perhaps homosexuality is the essence of small mindedness at work --- a sex is all about me syndrome.

So... When you have sex you are thinking "I am going to have sex for the greater good of society."?

K


Whatever floats your boat.

 

[quatona]

A variety of color that everyone can enjoy.

Bingo: variety!
Same goes for sexual orientation.

 

[Zaac]

The things you mention cause harm to others. Homseoxuality does not. Therein lies the difference.

There's that same old errant excuse again that says that the majority don't understand what sin is.

Sin is sin because of it's relationship to a HOLY GOD NOT because of it's relationship to whether or not it hurts another human being.

God is HOLY. Homosexual sex goes against what He commands in His Holiness.

Sin is sin because it is against HIM not against another human.

 

[ArgentBear]

Does God say that the things in your list are sinful? If not, what is the relevance to my comment?

So you are saying it is OK to denigrate SOME minorities by comparing them to criminals but not ALL minorities.
Please explain why you don’t want to compare black people to liars and adulterers and so on?

 

[Zebra1552]

Does God say that the things in your list are sinful? If not, what is the relevance to my comment?

Show that we should be ALL, regardless of belief, be living under the Bible's rules and show that this should be made into law. Why should we take away someone's choice?