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Discussion in 'Eschatology - Endtimes & Prophecy Forum' started by Quasar92, Nov 16, 2017.

  1. Riberra

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    Onviously not just the wicked will be Judged during the Great White Throne Judgment Revelation 20:11-15 after the 1,000 years.
    Revelation 20:15
    15 And if any was not found written in the book of life, he was cast into the lake of fire.
     
  2. Davy

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    When God's consuming fire burns all of man's works off this earth like Peter said will occur on "the day of the Lord", mankind will no longer be in a flesh type body.

    I'm well aware of the few of those who come upon Jerusalem on the last day being preserved into Christ's Millennium per the end of Zech.14.

    And yes, the John 5:28-29 Scripture is... definitely about the time of Jesus' 2nd coming, for that is when His "voice" happens with a shout, and the dead in Christ rise first...

    1 Thess 4:16
    16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:
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  3. Davy

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    I agree. The mere mention of a "first" resurrection automatically precludes the idea of at least one more. Problem is though, the majority think the second resurrection is about the "dead" being raised to be judged when the second resurrection is about those who will come to Christ Jesus during the thousand years, and be joined with the first resurrection after the GWT judgment. Their names will be found in the Book.
     
  4. Riberra

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    1 Thess 4:13-18 concern ONLY CHRISTIANS...the WE refers to Christians...Jesus will not gather to Him the wicked.
     
  5. Davy

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    I mentioned that involving "the dead in Christ" if you'll go back read what I said.

    The wicked will be separated from His sheep, per Matt.25.
     
  6. Riberra

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    The wicked alive will be slain by Jesus at the Battle of Armageddon Revelation 19.

    No Resurrection of the -dead wicked- will happen unto the Coming Of Jesus.
     
  7. BABerean2

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    I think you are on the right track here.

    We should expect the same kind of persecution suffered by the early Church, based on Revelation 12:11.

    Christ did not save our mortal flesh body.
    He saved our immortal soul.


    The first in only temporary.

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  8. BABerean2

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    John 5:27-30 begins and ends with text about Christ being the judge.
    Sandwiched in between is the bodily resurrection and judgment of "all" the dead.


    We find out when the judgment comes in the verse below.

    2Ti 4:1  I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead at his appearing and his kingdom;

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  9. Riberra

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    Jesus will Judge AT HIS APPEARING ....AND HIS KINGDOM.


    2Ti 4:1  I charge thee therefore before God, and the Lord Jesus Christ, who shall judge the quick and the dead hat his appearing AND his kingdom;

    At His appearing---->wicked alive slain by Jesus at Armageddon, their bodies eated by the birds. The Beast and False Prophet cast alive into the lake of Fire Revelation 19:20-21.

    Prophets [dead] and Saints [dead] REWARDED Revelation 20:4-6 ...Christians still alive and remain who have not taken the mark rewarded with them ----->receive immortal body to reign with Jesus...First Resurrection.

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  10. Truth7t7

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    Matthew 25:31-46 & Revelation 20:11-15 is the same event of the "Final Judgment"

    There will be no 1000 year kingdom on this earth at the return of Jesus Christ, as you claim in error.

    Matthew 25:31-46 clearly teaches at the return of Jesus Christ, The Final Judgement, Eternal Life, Eternal Kingdom takes place.

    Verses 31-32 Jesus returns with the holy angels, the nations are gathered before the "Great White Throne" for judgment.

    Verse 34 The "Eternal Kingdom" is presented to the righteous.

    Verse 41 The wicked are judged to the "Eternal Lake Of Fire"

    Verse 46 The righteous obtain "Eternal Life" and enter the "Eternal Kingdom" seen in verse 34

    Simple, And Very Clear :)

    Will you continue to teach in error, of a temporary 1000 year kingdom at the return of Jesus Christ, you have clearly been shown the truth of God's words?

    Jesus Christ Is Lord :)

    Truth7t7
     
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  11. Truth7t7

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    You use 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 as a proof text for the believers being resurrected/gathered?

    This event of the saved believers resurrection takes place on "The Last Day" as Jesus teaches in John 6:40

    When "Death Is Swallowed Up In Victory" 1 Corinthians 15:52-54

    There is no mortal human life beyond this point, as you believe a 1000 year kingdom takes place on this earth, with mortal humans present, after the events shown?
     
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  12. Riberra

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    Have you read what PRECEDE 1 Corinthians 15:52-54 ?

    Here the step by step plan of God ...

    1 Corinthians 15:22-27

    22 For as in Adam all die, so also in Christ shall all be made alive.
    23 But each in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; then they that are Christ's, at HIS COMING.
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    24 Then [cometh] the end, WHEN he shall deliver up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have abolished all rule and all authority and power.
    25 For he must reign, TILL he hath put all his enemies under his feet.
    26 The last enemy that shall be abolished is death.

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    27 For, He put all things in subjection under his feet. But WHEN he saith, All things are put in subjection, it is evident that he is excepted who did subject all things unto him.
    28 And when all things have been subjected unto him, then shall the Son also himself be subjected to him that did subject all things unto him,
    that God may be all in all.
     
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  13. Truth7t7

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    You run from the subject of Matthew 25:31-46 below, why?

    Matthew 25:31-46 & Revelation 20:11-15 is the same event of the "Final Judgment"

    There will be no 1000 year kingdom on this earth at the return of Jesus Christ, as you claim in error.

    Matthew 25:31-46 clearly teaches at the return of Jesus Christ, The Final Judgement, Eternal Life, Eternal Kingdom takes place.

    Verses 31-32 Jesus returns with the holy angels, the nations are gathered before the "Great White Throne" for judgment.

    Verse 34 The "Eternal Kingdom" is presented to the righteous.

    Verse 41 The wicked are judged to the "Eternal Lake Of Fire"

    Verse 46 The righteous obtain "Eternal Life" and enter the "Eternal Kingdom" seen in verse 34

    Simple, And Very Clear

    Will you continue to teach in error, of a temporary 1000 year kingdom at the return of Jesus Christ, you have clearly been shown the truth of God's words?

    Jesus Christ Is Lord

    Truth7t7
     
  14. Riberra

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    Do you agree that the Battle of Armageddon happen unto the COMING OF JESUS ...that the wicked ot the Nations will be gathered at Armageddon ....that the wicked gathered there will be slain by Jesus ...that the birds will eat their flesh.
    Now look at Revelation 19:20 and tell us how much will be cast alive into the lake of fire UNTO THE COMING OF JESUS?


    Revelation 19:20-21

    20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought the signs in his sight, wherewith he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast and them that worshipped his image: they two were cast alive into the lake of fire that burneth with brimstone:
    21 and the rest were killed with the sword of him that sat upon the horse, [even the sword] which came forth out of his mouth: and all the birds were filled with their flesh.
     
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  15. BABerean2

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    Rev 11:15  And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever. 



    Revelation 11:18
    (CJB)  "The Goyim raged. But now your rage has come, the time for the dead to be judged, the time for rewarding your servants the prophets and your holy people, those who stand in awe of your name, both small and great. It is also the time for destroying those who destroy the earth."

    (ESV)  The nations raged, but your wrath came, and the time for the dead to be judged, and for rewarding your servants, the prophets and saints, and those who fear your name, both small and great, and for destroying the destroyers of the earth."

    (Geneva)  And the Gentiles were angrie, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they shoulde be iudged, and that thou shouldest giue reward vnto thy seruants the Prophets, and to the Saintes, and to them that feare thy Name, to small and great, and shouldest destroy them, which destroy the earth.

    (GW)  The nations were angry, but your anger has come. The time has come for the dead to be judged: to reward your servants, the prophets, your holy people, and those who fear your name, no matter if they are important or unimportant, and to destroy those who destroy the earth."

    (LITV-TSP)  And the nations were full of wrath; and Your wrath came, and the time of the judging of the dead, and to give the reward to Your slaves, to the prophets, and to the saints, and to the ones fearing Your name, to the small and to the great, and to destroy those destroying the earth.

    (KJV)  And the nations were angry, and thy wrath is come, and the time of the dead, that they should be judged, and that thou shouldest give reward unto thy servants the prophets, and to the saints, and them that fear thy name, small and great; and shouldest destroy them which destroy the earth.

    (KJV+)  AndG2532 theG3588 nationsG1484 were angry,G3710 andG2532 thyG4675 wrathG3709 is come,G2064 andG2532 theG3588 timeG2540 of theG3588 dead,G3498 that they should be judged,G2919 andG2532 that thou shouldest giveG1325 rewardG3408 unto thyG4675 servantsG1401 theG3588 prophets,G4396 andG2532 to theG3588 saints,G40 andG2532 them that fearG5399 thyG4675 name,G3686 smallG3398 andG2532 great;G3173 andG2532 shouldest destroyG1311 them which destroyG1311 theG3588 earth.G1093


    (NKJV)  The nations were angry, and Your wrath has come, And the time of the dead, that they should be judged, And that You should reward Your servants the prophets and the saints, And those who fear Your name, small and great, And should destroy those who destroy the earth."

    (YLT)  and the nations were angry, and Thine anger did come, and the time of the dead, to be judged, and to give the reward to Thy servants, to the prophets, and to the saints, and to those fearing Thy name, to the small and to the great, and to destroy those who are destroying the land.'

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  16. Riberra

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    Revelation 11:18

    List of things to do ....Remember that the Two Witnesses will be killed by the Beast who cometh out of the bottomless pit at the end of the 6 TH Trumpet events (Second Woe).......

    The nations were angry because of the calamity of the 6 First Trumpets + The calimities provoqued by the Two Witnesses.

    --The Beast who cometh out of the Bottomless pit [who killed the Two Witnesses ] will become at that moment the most popular "man" in the World ----

    Revelation 11:18
    Satan have not even been cast out of Heaven at this point ...

    Remember the 7 TH trumpet announce the THIRD WOE ...
     
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  17. Truth7t7

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  18. Riberra

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    I don't see any comments from you in #217
     
  19. Truth7t7

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    You run from the subject of Matthew 25:31-46 below, why?

    Matthew 25:31-46 & Revelation 20:11-15 is the same event of the "Final Judgment"

    There will be no 1000 year kingdom on this earth at the return of Jesus Christ, as you claim in error.

    Matthew 25:31-46 clearly teaches at the return of Jesus Christ, The Final Judgement, Eternal Life, Eternal Kingdom takes place.

    Verses 31-32 Jesus returns with the holy angels, the nations are gathered before the "Great White Throne" for judgment.

    Verse 34 The "Eternal Kingdom" is presented to the righteous.

    Verse 41 The wicked are judged to the "Eternal Lake Of Fire"

    Verse 46 The righteous obtain "Eternal Life" and enter the "Eternal Kingdom" seen in verse 34

    Simple, And Very Clear

    Will you continue to teach in error, of a temporary 1000 year kingdom at the return of Jesus Christ, you have clearly been shown the truth of God's words?

    Jesus Christ Is Lord
     
  20. Riberra

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    Simple ,if the Return of Jesus =the GREAT WHITE THRONE JUDGMENT described in Revelation 20:11-15....Can you explain why only the BEAST and the FALSE PROPHET are cited as the 2 FIRST ONES to be Cast ALIVE INTO THE LAKE OF FIRE IN REVELATION 19:20 ?
     
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