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CF has always been a site that welcomes people from different backgrounds and beliefs to participate in discussion and even debate. That is the nature of its ministry. In view of recent events emotions are running very high. We need to remind people of some basic principles in debating on this site. We need to be civil when we express differences in opinion. No personal attacks. Avoid you, your statements. Don't characterize an entire political party with comparisons to Fascism or Communism or other extreme movements that committed atrocities. CF is not the place for broad brush or blanket statements about groups and political parties. Put the broad brushes and blankets away when you come to CF, better yet, put them in the incinerator. Debate had no place for them. We need to remember that people that commit acts of violence represent themselves or a small extreme faction.
What is currently on your mind?
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Sometimes I have those thoughts, but I think if I stay, it forces the Overton window to not lean quite so badly.
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I can see how it would feel like that in America. I think, from Australia, it's easier to have a little more hope.
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If one's on the right, it just feels like leveling the playing field. The left hasn't had a window in the 21st century. It's been able to express the most hideous, dangerous ideas imaginable.
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I think part of the problem with that way of conceptualising things, is seeing either "the right" or "the left" as monolithic. When in fact there is much more complexity than that.
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Because it's inaccurate. Because it reduces people to stereotypes. Because it avoids much of the depth of the real issues. Because it doesn't equip us to engage well with what's actually happening around us.
We can't effectively proclaim the good news of the kingdom of God, if we refuse to acknowledge the context in which we are attempting to proclaim it.
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I guess I didn't word my reply right. What I meant was that I don't see viewing the right or left as monolithic as a problem, because I rarely see anyone doing that.
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It seemed to me that your post was very much doing that, but perhaps I misunderstood.
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Hope is nice, but depends on what our hope is based. This week I saw evidence of an expression of bias that wouldn't be allowed in most businesses and government organizations because it makes it appear that this view or that view is officially endorsed. For that reason you don't put political stickers on company vehicles, and you sure don't on a government vehicle.
The problem comes from what's displayed beneath our avatars. We can alter it or let the CF software generate it, and in some cases it displays an administrative tie to DF. The latter is like wearing a company uniform. Those of us who wear/have worn uniforms know that what we say and do while in uniform can be seen as official positions of the company or organization.The opinions we have while out of uniform don't necessarily have that same overtone and we are more free to express ourselves.
Just pointing that out is likely to get me in trouble here. At the moment can't say that I care all that much. CF does lean in a particular direction, some political, some moral. As Overton windows go, the shrubbery seems to have grown over part of it.
The question is whether I want to be a part of that. I know someone who frequents an online comic / blog and then reports on what he finds objectionable there. My take is why bother? If you know they are going to take such and such positions on things and denigrate yours, what's the point? Just get up and go. Fretting over it isn't worth it.
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Learned a neat trick from a clever lady awhile ago. Was walking my dog, and this dog is coming towards us barking angrily. Its elderly lady owner intervened by yelling the dog's name, then yelled "chicken", "chicken". The dog stopped and started going back towards her. Teach your dog it gets some chicken when it hears the word, and it'll come to you. I know I would. 
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