What do we do to prevent another Las Vegas?

[drjean]

So no, no proof. Understood.

Why do you insist on believing a false narrative? Read this: Saints Coach Sean Payton: More Americans Killed by Guns Than From All U.S. Wars Combined - Breitbart

His statement? "Nothing could be further from the truth".

 

[dogs4thewin]

So what WOULD have, in your esteemed opinion?

We will never know but there are cases where the answer is literally NOTHING.

 

[Aldebaran]

So no actual evidence, then?

Don't you believe the actions of the gunman were evil?

 

[Armoured]

There is evidence. But it requires faith. Are you an atheist?

If it "requires faith" it's not evidence.

 

[lasthero]

There is evidence. But it requires faith.

If it requires faith, it's not evidence.

Are you an atheist?

Maybe. What's that got to do with anything?

 

[lasthero]

Don't you believe the actions of the gunman were evil?

Irrelevant. Evil or not, that doesn't mean he was possessed by a demon.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Don't you believe the actions of the gunman were evil?

Yes, and no amount of laws in the world will stop evil.

 

[Armoured]

We will never know but there are cases where the answer is literally NOTHING.

Strange the US is the only developed country where this is a regular problem, then. 20 years since the last mass shooting in Australia.

 

[drjean]

Yep. No way it could be anything like mental illness.

Mental Illness is caused by evil.... original sin, influence of satan... not by choice though.... but it's either satan or God and God doesn't afflict His followers with such misery.

 

[Aldebaran]

Feinstein: No law would have stopped Las Vegas gunman

Let's take a look at some of the laws that are already in place that didn't stop him:

It's illegal to murder.
It's illegal to discharge a firearm in the city limits of Las Vegas.
It's against hotel policy to bring firearms into the hotel where he was staying.

Did these laws work? Some people think we need just one more law.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

If it "requires faith" it's not evidence.

I disagree.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Strange the US is the only developed country where this is a regular problem, then. 20 years since the last mass shooting in Australia.

I did not say that this was the case in this particular situation. I did say that there ARE some evil things that occur that no law would stop. It is a heart issue; even if it WAS a gun issue with 300 MILLION guns around it would be hard to stop there are MANY illegal guns.

 

[dogs4thewin]

I disagree.

Faith by definition is believing that which cannot be seen.

 

[drjean]

Strange the US is the only developed country where this is a regular problem, then. 20 years since the last mass shooting in Australia.

Why keep bringing Australia into this? If you must, why not compare Chicago, which also has a no firearm law with Australia... and give a better solution to implementing a no firearm law...oh wait!...

The problem isn't "GUNS" it's HUMANS and their evil hearts that know not GOD.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Let's take a look at some of the laws that are already in place that didn't stop him:

It's illegal to murder.
It's illegal to discharge a firearm in the city limits of Las Vegas.
It's against hotel policy to bring firearms into the hotel where he was staying.

Did these laws work? Some people think we need just one more law.

Laws keep honest people honest, but should allow honest people to defend themselves from dishonest people.

 

[Obliquinaut]

Let's take a look at some of the laws that are already in place that didn't stop him:

It's illegal to murder.
It's illegal to discharge a firearm in the city limits of Las Vegas.
It's against hotel policy to bring firearms into the hotel where he was staying.

Did these laws work? Some people think we need just one more law.

-sigh-

So if laws don't stop evil-doers why do we have laws at all?

No, the problem is we don't ask gun owners to act like responsible adult humans. They, through the magic of NRA money, have somehow gotten a free pass to act like all rules are too many rules.

When the NRA was able to get it made ILLEGAL for the CDC to study gun violence based statistics we knew exactly what the game was.

The ONLY reason to NOT study something is if one knows that what is found will NOT be to their liking.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

If it requires faith, it's not evidence.

I disagree.

 

[dogs4thewin]

Why keep bringing Australia into this? If you must, why not compare Chicago, which also has a no firearm law with Australia... and give a better solution to implementing a no firearm law...oh wait!...

The problem isn't "GUNS" it's HUMANS and their evil hearts that know not GOD.

and yet that same city has some of the highest gun crime.

 

[dogs4thewin]

-sigh-

So if laws don't stop evil-doers why do we have laws at all?

No, the problem is we don't ask gun owners to act like responsible adult humans. They, through the magic of NRA money, have somehow gotten a free pass to act like all rules are too many rules.

When the NRA was able to get it made ILLEGAL for the CDC to study gun violence based statistics we knew exactly what the game was.

The ONLY reason to NOT study something is if one knows that what is found will NOT be to their liking.

Actually, we do require gun owners to be responsible adults. If they do not they CAN lose their rights.

 

[LivingWordUnity]

Faith by definition is believing that which cannot be seen.

There is more than one kind of evidence.