We're in the end of days

[Armoured]

September 13 may just be the day...

But probably won't be.

 

[Armoured]

As America wanes, Israel waxes. As the fig tree Israel grows toward 70 years old, we know this generation will witness the end. The time of the gentiles must end in this 1948-? generation. We cannot see a time or day, but we can see the month and year. Another harbinger of warning is due America in September, more accurate and serious than the last. The writing is on the wall. God's hand is slowly pulling away. He turns His face from the prideful. Our police have lost their peace, our courts are corrupt. All nations will be against Israel in the last day, including America.

When nothing particularly noteworthy happens in September, will you come back and admit to being wrong?

 

[CarlNH]

When nothing particularly noteworthy happens in September, will you come back and admit to being wrong?

Yes...as far as another warning coming yes.

 

[Armoured]

Yes...as far as another warning coming yes.

See you in September, then.

 

[Straightshot]

My comment


No one can know the dating [Acts 1:6-7]

 

[zippy2]

See you in September, then.

I certainly hope he's wrong. Everyone better hope he's wrong.

He is right about the generation of 1948---1961 we are getting old. And even secular folks are saying something bad is coming in September..financially. People are nervous.

Indeed. Hope to see you in September brothers and sisters.

 

[Straightshot]

One needs to know the correct rendering of "this generation"

The Lord is speaking to Israel in this case, but He speaks of the "generation" of humans from the flood forward to His next judgment of the coming tribulation still pending

From judgment .... to judgment [Matthew 24:36-39]

He does not mean the generation of Israel living in the first century, or since 1948

He has said that no one can know the dating of His next intervention to bring His next judgment to the earth

Because of this, any attempt to date the event will fail

In fact, it could come before this day is over .... a remnant of Israel has returned to the land and in place to experience the time of Jacob's trouble still pending

..... and until the fullness of the Gentiles has been added to His true ecclesia .... this is still ongoing as we speak

He alone knows this dating

 

[zippy2]

One needs to know the correct rendering of "this generation"

The Lord is speaking to Israel in this case, but He speaks of the "generation" of humans from the flood forward to His next judgment of the coming tribulation still pending

From judgment .... to judgment [Matthew 24:36-39]

He does not mean the generation of Israel living in the first century, or since 1948

He has said that no one can know the dating of His next intervention to bring His next judgment to the earth

Because of this, any attempt to date the event will fail

In fact, it could come before this day is over .... a remnant of Israel has returned to the land and in place to experience the time of Jacob's trouble still pending

..... and until the fullness of the Gentiles has been added to His true ecclesia .... this is still ongoing as we speak

He alone knows this dating

I guess we disagree on 'this generation'. I believe it speaks of the generation who saw the beginning of the return of the Jews to Israel in 1948. I'm certainly not setting any dates, just saying it is getting late.

And I have no idea of what you mean by 'true ecclesia' . Sounds like another form of replacement theology to me. I will pass on that theory.

 

[zippy2]

The Day of the Lord and the Great Tribulation are two absolutely unique (and probably overlapping) events prophesied in Scripture, and by Christ Himself, and we are rapidly approaching that period of history. The first five seals of Revelation have already been opened, and the above events belong to the 6th and 7th seals.

The evidence for this is the pervasive and increasing apostasy (falling away) which is all around us within "Christendom", the latest indicators being the Emergent Church Movement, the ordination of homosexual clergy, the focus on angels instead of Christ, and many other aspects of the serious departure from the true Bible and Bible truth. Things will only get worse until the Abomination of Desolation is set up in the temple at Jerusalem (which is currently being built). Study 2 Thessalonians 2:1-12 for further insight.

At the same time, we dare not set dates, but rather should re-double our efforts to bring souls to Christ and disciple believers in sound doctrine (which is going to become rarer and rarer).

I too have always believed the Temple in Jerusalem has to be rebuilt before the AofD and the Day of the Lord.

However, have you ever thought that the AofD is already 'standing in the Holy Place'?

The Dome of the Rock is standing over the exact spot of the Holy of Holies. Mohammad followers claim Allah is God.
They are chopping off Christian and Jewish heads. Have we been wrong about the Temple? Just wonderin....your thoughts?

 

[Straightshot]

"I guess we disagree on 'this generation'. I believe it speaks of the generation who saw the beginning of the return of the Jews to Israel in 1948. I'm certainly not setting any dates, just saying it is getting late.

And I have no idea of what you mean by 'true ecclesia' . Sounds like another form of replacement theology to me. I will pass on that theory."


His "called out ones" .... if you are one of His followers ..... you are one of these .... I hesitate to call the same the "church" because of the gross apostasy that exists today .... look up the meaning

[Strongs G1577 - ecclesia]

Also, there is no scriptural reference to denote a 60 or 70 year generation from 1948 .... and the Lord has not revealed any way to calculate His dating of His next intervention

The Lord is speaking about the re-population of humans after the judgment of the flood to this day and ongoing as we speak unto His next judgment

The next generation in the aftermath of the coming tribulation will be in His millennial kingdom upon the earth consisting of the residual of believing mortal survivors of the tribulation who will re-populate the earth again

 

[CarlNH]

Read carefully friends....."No one knows the day or the hour". Notice day or hour does not include week, month, season, year, decade, or century.

 

[Straightshot]

No one knows

Date setting should never be done .... many have done this and failed with dire consequences

 

[Job8]

I too have always believed the Temple in Jerusalem has to be rebuilt before the AofD and the Day of the Lord.

However, have you ever thought that the AofD is already 'standing in the Holy Place'?

The Dome of the Rock is standing over the exact spot of the Holy of Holies. Mohammad followers claim Allah is God.
They are chopping off Christian and Jewish heads. Have we been wrong about the Temple? Just wonderin....your thoughts?

We need to tie this in with Revelation 13 as well as several prophecies in Daniel. The Man of Sin will control the whole world with an iron fist for 3 1/2 years and will be an individual who calls himself God.

 

[zippy2]

We need to tie this in with Revelation 13 as well as several prophecies in Daniel. The Man of Sin will control the whole world with an iron fist for 3 1/2 years and will be an individual who calls himself God.

Exactly. Let's chew on it for awhile. And remember he comes to call himself God because satan has overtaken/possessed him. It is an interesting theory someone mentioned to me several years before 9-11 and ISIS. I dismissed it then. Lately it has been coming back to mind...still chewin I guess.

 

[Straightshot]

My comment

Israel's enemies of the Middle Eastern Muslims of today are the exact populations described in prophetic scripture [Psalms 84; Ezekiel 36:1-7; 38; Joel 2; 3; Micah 5:5-6; Zechariah 12; 14]

The abomination is already on the mount as we speak .... the Muslim Dome of the Rock

Here is Satan's beast in the human little horn [Daniel 7:7-25; 8:9-25; 9:26-27 [the other prince that shall come and his followers; 11:36-45; 12:7; Revelation 9:11; 11:2-7; 13:1-4; 17:8-18]

This human little horn [a king] of the northern Middle East will appear in northwestern Mesopotamia [Syria/Iraq] and consolidate the current divides of the region at the time of the end [Micah 5:5-6]

This is the one who will grandstand in the temple of his "god" [Allah, the pagan crescent moon "god" of the ancient Assyrians and Babylonians]

Allah does not exist, but is a cover for Satan .... the Muslims are worshiping the devil and do not know this

It is Satan who instigated the monotheistic Muslim religion through the false prophet Mohammed

The current upheaval in the Middle East today is the setting up of the prophetic scriptures related to the end of this present age

 

[zippy2]

StriaightShot, just when I think you've gone off the deep end, you say something that makes sense.

Thank you.
Zip

 

[Straightshot]

All of the visions of the prophets must fit precisely together

 

[keras]

Undoubtedly, we ARE in the end times. We can discern the season and know from what the prophets have told us what the first event will be. The Lord will use His Appointed Day. Habakkuk 2:3, Psalms 75:2-3, Acts of the Apostles 17:31

Blow the Trumpet! Joel 2:1-2, Isaiah 18:3 Yom Teruah, the Day of Trumpets.
Hosea 5:8-15 Blow the trumpet in the Holy Land! Raise the battle cry over the Land. Benjamin will lead the way. [Benjamin, now part of the Jewish people]
On the Day of Reckoning and punishment Ephraim will be laid waste, this is the certain doom the Lord has decreed for all of Israel’s tribes. Judah’s rabbis are like those who move boundary stones, therefore He will pour out His wrath upon them like a flood. Jeremiah 8:8, 1 Tim. 1:7
Ephraim is an oppressor trampling on justice, obstinately pursuing what is worthless. So the Lord will be as a festering boil to Ephraim and like rot to the people of Judah. When Ephraim realized his sickness and Judah found his sores, they turned for help to earthly powers, but they had no cure for them. Jeremiah 13:25
The Lord will be like a lion against Ephraim and as a fierce lion to Judah, He will maul His prey and go, Jeremiah 4:7-9 leaving them with no hope of rescue. He will return to His dwelling place until they admit their guilt and in remorse they seek their God. In their misery and pain, they will acknowledge their offences and pray for the Lord to heal them. Isaiah 57:15-19, Psalms 41:1-2, Jeremiah 33:6-8, Hosea 14


This is the amazing story of what will happen very soon. How the Lord will instigate His Day of Reckoning and punishment, His terrible judgement of fire that will virtually wipe out the Middle East and affect all the world. We read the prophesies such as Psalms 83, how on that Day, He will destroy His enemies, but this passage in Hosea tells us that His people, all twelve tribes of Israel will also face judgement. Their lands will be ‘laid waste,’ but in Jeremiah 30:7 How awful is that Day, when has been the like? A time of anguish for Jacob, [now the Western nations] yet he will come through it safely. Zechariah 9:14-17
The Lord ‘will maul His prey and go back to His dwelling place’, this is undeniable proof that this terrible Day of wrath: the Sixth seal, is separate from and years before the glorious Return.


Jeremiah 50:3-5 A great horde [fiery mass] will fall upon the Middle East, [Joel 2:1-11, Ezekiel 30:1-5] making all the holy Land a desolate waste, with no one living there; man and beast will all be gone. In those days and at that time, the people of Israel, [the ten Northern tribes] and the people of Judah, [the Jews] will come together and with remorse and tears go in search of the Lord their God. They will seek the way to the holy Land, looking toward Jerusalem and saying: Come, let us join ourselves to the Lord in an everlasting Covenant that will never be forgotten Hebrews 8:8-13, Jeremiah 31:8-9, Deuteronomy 4:27-31, Ezekiel 37:1-28

Jeremiah 51:50 You who escape the terrible Day of the Lord’s wrath; Go do not linger. Remember the Lord from afar and let Jerusalem come into your minds.
Isaiah 12:1-6 On that Day, you will say: Praise God, my Deliverer… Let this be known in all the world – the Holy One of Israel has Redeemed His people and will be among them. Isaiah 24:23, 2 Thessalonians 1:10 Ref: REB, NIV, KJV. Paraphrased

The Shekinah glory of God will return to the new Temple, in the same manner as in Solomon’s Temple. Ezekiel 43:4 But when the Anti-Christ conquers Beulah and places his image in the Temple, the Lord will depart along with His holy ones, Daniel 11:32, Revelation 12:14, for the 1260 day period of the great Tribulation. They will live in a place far out of reach of the ‘serpent’ until the Return of Jesus for His Millennial reign. Matthew 24:30-31

 

[Jipsah]

I guess we disagree on 'this generation'. I believe it speaks of the generation who saw the beginning of the return of the Jews to Israel in 1948.

Long generation, ain't it? Nigh on 70 years. Of course, when you start date setting it pays to be pretty elastic in your time measurements. <Laugh>

Sounds like another form of replacement theology to me.

"Replacement theology" is the Dispensational Futurist notion that the Church will be replaced by Temple Judaism and animal sacrifice in The Millennium. It's a blasphemous fiction.

 

[random person]

Long generation, ain't it? Nigh on 70 years. Of course, when you start date setting it pays to be pretty elastic in your time measurements. <Laugh>

"Replacement theology" is the Dispensational Futurist notion that the Church will be replaced by Temple Judaism and animal sacrifice in The Millennium. It's a blasphemous fiction.

Ditto. Not to mention the 2,000 year gap they have inserted into Daniel's 70th week.