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US buys up world stock of key Covid-19 drug remdesivir

Discussion in 'News & Current Events' started by Nithavela, Jul 1, 2020.

  1. Nithavela

    Nithavela What would Nurgle do?

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    U.S. buys up worldwide stock of remdesivir, drug seen as potential COVID-19 treatment
     
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  3. Nithavela

    Nithavela What would Nurgle do?

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    I think this is one of the first rational actions of the US government in this crisis.

    Coldly, cruely rational, but rational. So, kudos for that.
     
  4. Tom 1

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  5. Tom 1

    Tom 1 Optimistic sceptic Supporter

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    Seems more like a give me that it’s mine impulse, a la kindergarten bully.
     
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  6. Nithavela

    Nithavela What would Nurgle do?

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    You can't get much more rational than beating someone to take their stuff when you know they can't fight back. Anything else is just virtue signalling. It's just good buisness.
     
  7. Tom 1

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    Bullies end up with high blood pressure, bad relationships and self-loathing. Maybe there’s a nation state equivalent of that.
     
  8. Hammster

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    I’m pretty sure the drugs were purchased from a manufacturer, not forcefully taken from someone else who purchased the drugs.
     
  9. Tom 1

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    Having the means to pay doesn’t make taking all of a resource much needed by others any less of a selfish act.
     
  10. Hammster

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    Is it much needed by the US?
     
  11. Tom 1

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    All of it? If so, it’s a situation that could have been avoided. What’s your point?
     
  12. Hammster

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    I would say that the US needs as much as it can secure. If they do so legally, then I don’t see the problem.
     
  13. Radagast

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    Have you sold all your worldly goods and given them to the poor?
     
  14. Tom 1

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    The US is part of an international community, like it or not. This kind of behaviour is not the norm.
     
  15. Tom 1

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    You would have a point if you were making an equivalent argument to ‘should the US give away all of its medication’, which would be a different argument. The actual argument would be the US should share much needed treatment that is not currently needed in the US - the 500,000 unit estimated supply could be partially shared according to current projections of need - until the drug can be manufactured elsewhere. Some forewarning of this kind of behaviour would be a minimal courtesy.
     
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  16. Hammster

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    The US is a sovereign nation. It has the right to purchase as many drugs as possible. It would only be wrong if it bought more drugs than necessary.
     
  17. Tom 1

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    ? I don’t get how this relates to the actual scenario. The US can do whatever it wants, if you’re trying to argue that buying up the entire projected supply of remsidvir is ethical you’ll need to do better though. On what basis are you saying that 500,000 doses is only what is needed over the summer? And on what basis would you say that a compromise arrangement to provide wider accessibility while increasing manufacturing capacity would not be a more ethical approach?
     
  18. Hammster

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    I don’t need to do better. If 500,000 people can be cured, why not 500,000 Americans?
     
  19. Nithavela

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    I totally agree. Since one american equals 3 europeans, 5 asians or several hundred africans, it's only right that everything is done to make as many americans survive as possible.
     
  20. Aryeh Jay

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    Well, you could always forbid people from the United States from entering Europe…
     
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