US buys up world stock of key Covid-19 drug remdesivir

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The United States has secured nearly the entire worldwide supply of remdesivir, a drug that’s proven effective for severely ill patients of the novel coronavirus — leaving hardly any for Canada and the rest of the world.

The Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) announced Monday it has secured more than 500,000 treatment courses of the drug from its sole manufacturer Gilead Sciences for American hospitals through September. Each treatment course uses an average of over six vials of the drug.

U.S. buys up worldwide stock of remdesivir, drug seen as potential COVID-19 treatment
 

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It's strange they are so desperate to snatch up drug cures, when the problem is basic science-denial in our leadership not leading to science-based public policy.
I think this is one of the first rational actions of the US government in this crisis.

Coldly, cruely rational, but rational. So, kudos for that.
 
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I think this is one of the first rational actions of the US government in this crisis.

Coldly, cruely rational, but rational. So, kudos for that.

Seems more like a give me that it’s mine impulse, a la kindergarten bully.
 
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Seeks more like a give me that it’s mine impulse, a la kindergarten bully.
You can't get much more rational than beating someone to take their stuff when you know they can't fight back. Anything else is just virtue signalling. It's just good buisness.
 
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You can't get much more rational than beating someone to take their stuff when you know they can't fight back. Anything else is just virtue signalling. It's just good buisness.

Bullies end up with high blood pressure, bad relationships and self-loathing. Maybe there’s a nation state equivalent of that.
 
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Seems more like a give me that it’s mine impulse, a la kindergarten bully.
I’m pretty sure the drugs were purchased from a manufacturer, not forcefully taken from someone else who purchased the drugs.
 
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I’m pretty sure the drugs were purchased from a manufacturer, not forcefully taken from someone else who purchased the drugs.

Having the means to pay doesn’t make taking all of a resource much needed by others any less of a selfish act.
 
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Having the means to pay doesn’t make taking all of a resource much needed by others any less of a selfish act.
Is it much needed by the US?
 
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All of it? If so, it’s a situation that could have been avoided. What’s your point?
I would say that the US needs as much as it can secure. If they do so legally, then I don’t see the problem.
 
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I would say that the US needs as much as it can secure. If they do so legally, then I don’t see the problem.

The US is part of an international community, like it or not. This kind of behaviour is not the norm.
 
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Have you sold all your worldly goods and given them to the poor?

You would have a point if you were making an equivalent argument to ‘should the US give away all of its medication’, which would be a different argument. The actual argument would be the US should share much needed treatment that is not currently needed in the US - the 500,000 unit estimated supply could be partially shared according to current projections of need - until the drug can be manufactured elsewhere. Some forewarning of this kind of behaviour would be a minimal courtesy.
 
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The US is part of an international community, like it or not. This kind of behaviour is not the norm.
The US is a sovereign nation. It has the right to purchase as many drugs as possible. It would only be wrong if it bought more drugs than necessary.
 
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The US is a sovereign nation. It has the right to purchase as many drugs as possible. It would only be wrong if it bought more drugs than necessary.

? I don’t get how this relates to the actual scenario. The US can do whatever it wants, if you’re trying to argue that buying up the entire projected supply of remsidvir is ethical you’ll need to do better though. On what basis are you saying that 500,000 doses is only what is needed over the summer? And on what basis would you say that a compromise arrangement to provide wider accessibility while increasing manufacturing capacity would not be a more ethical approach?
 
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? I don’t get how this relates to the actual scenario. The US can do whatever it wants, if you’re trying to argue that buying up the entire projected supply of remsidvir is ethical you’ll need to do better though. On what basis are you saying that 500,000 doses is only what is needed over the summer? And on what basis would you say that a compromise arrangement to provide wider accessibility while increasing manufacturing capacity would not be a more ethical approach?
I don’t need to do better. If 500,000 people can be cured, why not 500,000 Americans?
 
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I don’t need to do better. If 500,000 people can be cured, why not 500,000 Americans?
I totally agree. Since one american equals 3 europeans, 5 asians or several hundred africans, it's only right that everything is done to make as many americans survive as possible.
 
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I totally agree. Since one american equals 3 europeans, 5 asians or several hundred africans, it's only right that everything is done to make as many americans survive as possible.

Well, you could always forbid people from the United States from entering Europe…
 
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