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Featured UFOs in the end-times deception?

Discussion in 'General Theology' started by friend of, Dec 18, 2017.

  1. friend of

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    Hey so will advanced UFO technology and AI and stuff be used to consecrate the notion that Jesus is not Lord of creation?

    here's a neat video by The Watchman

     
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  2. Winken

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    No. Absolute nonsense. We faithfully wait upon our Lord, praying for His coming!
     
  3. friend of

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    Right but the Bible also talks of a coming "Great Deception"

    An argument can certainly be made that this great deception is the all-encompassing denial of Christ's divinity throughout the ages since his walk on earth. However, as the video shows, I'm pretty convinced the enemy is going to utilize technology to demonstrate wonders and signs during the time of the great tribulation, as doing so would be an attempt to end the discussion of Christ's divinity once and for all. Then those who deny Christ would be able to point to UFO's with the sentiment:

    "Ah-HA! We were created by UFOs! Now they are here, proving once and for all that God is a delusion"
     
  4. seventysevens

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    The Great delusion is the person of Man of Lawlessness and partner false prophet that will pull fire down from heaven on demand ,that are so convincing that he is God , people will believe it , God is sending the delusion because the people have rejected Jesus , Jesus said it will be such a delusion that it could even deceive even the elect .
    I do hear the Pope is anxiously waiting to baptize aliens from other galaxies when they arrive
     
  5. salt-n-light

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    Not UFO, or aliens, that a-lot of hogwash. But i do thin AI will play a part, not a dominant part, but it will challenge what can be identified as human. My theory is that its gonna first strip down the identity of man from a reality to a construct. So the whole LGBTQ+ movement literally makes identity something that man can create. Technology and science is gonna provide the means of being able to now reconstruct. Since man is not tied to biology, not only the idea can be reconstructed, but I can also change the makeup of my body to match my ideals, or make me even better.

    AI shows that its possible to achieve perfection, which would be an "incorruptible" body, and I wouldn't be surprise if they press people to integrate technology into our body to achieve perfection. I wouldn't be surprise if it was to be mandated. This is why there is always such a push to create first the environment for it through movies, media, trends, music, economics, and politics.

    AI shows the push for human to evolve, to be progressive in thoughts and actions, and disregard the limitation we have as fallable beings. Basically, they are trying to create a loophole in life by reconstructing humanity.
     
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  6. Tutorman

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  7. BobRyan

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    Yes and no.

    Yes there is a deception coming and the ufo narrative is a fake one will be probably be palmed off as the alternate reality for mankind as you suggest.

    however having said that.. you are tossing out the baby (the truth) with the bath-water "the fake narrative".

    the "truth" is that there are a great many other planets in our Galaxy. in our Universe and the "Machine learning" technology being employed for the first time to find those planets is truly ground breaking... they are finding real planets.

    That part is irrefutable.

    Hebrews 1 says "God made the worlds".. and that is also true

    God is the creator of all life - for example Angels don't come from Earth - they are alive ...

    But having said that - the UFO's that are seen today that are not artifice and fake of man - are in fact real objects - but they are in those cases the artifice and fake of Satan's narrative for mankind. very real ... but misleading.
     
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  8. Another Lazarus

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    God created this earth and the universe for Adam and Eve (mankind) not for the so called aliens.

    The snake is still deceiving mankind until it is thrown into the hell fire.
     
  9. friend of

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    I've been leaning more toward this lately. Call me crazy, but the Bible doesn't mention the heavens harboring intelligent life.
     
  10. friend of

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    ...deceive the elect even to the point of loss of salvation? I certainly don't think so. If you mean to deceive even the elect that's one thing... but the former would be unbiblical
     
  11. frettr00

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    Some people who are into UFOs already believe they are our creators so it's not too far fetched to think they could be used in mass deception.
     
  12. Another Lazarus

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    Thats their plan exactly
     
  13. DW1980

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    Hi

    There's an excellent book on this, "Alien Intrusion: UFOs and the Evolution Connection" by Gary Bates. In it he looks at UFOs, alien abductions etc. He shows how we have to take this seriously given the number of people who report such experiences, but does so in the context of what the Bible teaches. After showing that it cannot be real aliens, he looks at scriptural evidence and shows that these experiences have a lot in common with demonic activity as reported in the Bible - down to the most common names aliens have being linked with pagan gods in ancient times, and the alien's message which is opposed to Jesus. He also documents how some people have stopped "abductions" dead in their tracks - by calling on Jesus for help.
     
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  14. seventysevens

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    The scripture is meaning that the Delusion that will be so convincing that the masses of people will believe that God has come to earth , so convincing that the very elect 'could be' deceived not that 'they the elect' are -but a delusion so strong that persons that are not steadfast in the Truth of Jesus will be deceived , It is God saying that
     
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  15. BobRyan

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    If you discount angels and heaven ??
     
  16. BobRyan

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    1. I agree with that theme - there is a strong connection there in Satan's plan.

    2. But these are real aliens... because fallen angels are real aliens.

    3. And also - non-fallen angels are real aliens. and not at all visiting Earth in flashy bright ships trying to get our attention. (Nor in very large slow moving triangle shaped craft)

    4. And beings from other worlds are real aliens - sinless ... and not at all visiting Earth in flashy bright ships trying to get our attention.
     
  17. seventysevens

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    AI has a baby
    video from government of UFO
    Interesting stuff ....
    US Department of Defense Releases Video of a UFO Rotating In Mid-Air For The Very First Time

    Google supercomputer creates its own ‘AI CHILD’

    Google supercomputer creates its own 'AI child' | Daily Mail Online

    Google supercomputer creates its own ‘AI CHILD’
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    Google engineer forms a new religion as a AI God Brain
    Religion that worships artificial intelligence prepares for a world run by machines

    this is the beginning of it
    Way of the Future

    "We believe the creation of "super intelligence" is inevitable (mainly because after we re-create it, we will be able to tune it, manufacture it and scale it). We don't think that there are ways to actually stop this from happening (nor should we want to) and that this feeling of we must stop this is rooted in 21st century anthropomorphism (similar to humans thinking the sun rotated around the earth in the "not so distant" past)

    We also believe that, just like animals have rights, our creation(s) ("machines" or whatever we call them) should have rights too when they show signs intelligence (still to be defined of course).

    We believe it may be important for machines to see who is friendly to their cause and who is not. We plan on doing so by keeping track of who has done what (and for how long) to help the peaceful and respectful transition"

    The support for this is growing much faster than the developers thought it would as it is growing rapidly
     
  18. Antig

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    Are UFOs / Aliens real though?
     
  19. seventysevens

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    Unidentified Flying Object is simply a term used to speak of something in the air that has not been identified of what it is

    Aliens ? that remains to be seen , the Pope believes they are real :)

    God created life on earth , He created the solar systems , Who are we to say that life cannot exist in other places ?
    Mankind has not the ability to travel very far , so it seems that with Almighty God all things are possible.
     
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  20. Antig

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    Does he?
     
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