So your NAZI gun control argument link was all about Neville Chamberlin was it? When did either Neville or I ever use the argument, that you implied I was relying on in my post, that we need guns because guns would have prevented NAZIs from coming to power? I mentioned the right of the people to secure their self defense against tyranny that the American founders spoke of long before anyone ever heard of a NAZI. As for Chamberlin, he like many today seem to be, was under the mistaken impression that if you give a bully what they demand, the bully will just leave you alone after that. So if you give the bully your AR 15 he will be back for the rest eventually.