caddy said:
There are numerous books and Websites related to this. I know no one can be dogmatic on this, but whats the views in this forum of the possiblity of Future U.S. Being the Babylon of Chapter 18 in Revelations ?
Thanks
Steve
Who is the woman riding the fourth beast world power?
Read Ezekiel 16.
The Birth of Israel, The Harlot
Eze 16: 1. Again the word of the LORD came unto me, saying,
2. Son of man, cause JERUSALEM to know her ABOMMINATIONS, 3. And say, Thus saith the Lord GOD unto JERUSALEM; Thy BIRTH and thy NATIVITY is of the land of CANAAN; thy FATHER was an AMORITE, and thy MOTHER an HITTITE.
4. And as for thy nativity, in the day thou wast born thy navel was not cut, neither wast thou washed in water to supple thee; thou wast not salted at all, nor swaddled at all. 5None eye pitied thee, to do any of these unto thee, to have compassion upon thee; but thou wast cast out in the open field, to the lothing of thy person, in the day that thou wast born.
Abraham was an Amorite and Sarah was a Hittite. They were the first parents of the Jewish nation.
Ezekiel 16; 8. Now when I passed by thee, and looked upon thee, behold, thy time was the time of love; and I spread my skirt over thee, and covered thy nakedness: yea, I SWARE UNTO THEE, AND ENTERED INTO A COVENANT WITH THEE, saith the Lord GOD, and THOU BECOMEST MINE.
Ezekiel16: 10. I clothed thee also with broidered work, and shod thee with badgers’ skin, and I girded thee about with fine linen, and I COVERED THEE WITH SILK.
Ezekiel 16: 10. 13. Thus wast thou decked with GOLD and SILVER; and THY RAIMENT was of FINE LINEN, and SILK, and broidered work; thou didst eat fine flour, and honey, and oil: and THOU WAST EXCEEDING BEAUTIFUL, and THOU DIDST PROSPER INTO A KINGDOM.
The beautiful lady is the none other than the kingdom,,,, Israel.
Ezekiel 16: 14. 15. But thou didst trust in thine own beauty, and playedst the HARLOT because of thy renown, and pouredst out thy fornications on every one that passed by; his it was.
The beautiful lady,,, Israel becomes the Harlot in silk.
Ezekiel 16: 2. And in all thine ABOMINATIONS and thy WHOREDOMS thou hast not remembered the days of thy youth, when thou wast naked and bare, and wast polluted in thy blood.
Ezekiel 23: 44. 44. Yet they went in unto her, as they go in unto a woman that playeth the HARLOT: so went they in unto Aholah and unto Aholibah, the lewd women.
Numbers 14:30. Doubtless YE SHALL NOT COME INTO THE LAND, concerning which I SWARE TO MAKE YOU DWELL THEREIN, save CALEB the son of Jephunneh, and Joshua the son of Nun. 31But your little ones, which ye said should be a prey, them will I bring in, and they shall know the land which ye have despised.
Caleb and Joshua, were the only men truthfully reporting of the promise lands abundance.
Numbers 14: 32. But as for you, your carcases, they shall fall in this wilderness. 33And your children shall wander in the wilderness forty years, and bear your whoredoms, until your carcases be wasted in the wilderness. 34After the number of the days in which ye searched the land, even forty days, each day for a year, shall ye bear your iniquities, even forty years, and ye shall know my breach of promise
In plain English. For every day you lied about the land you will be punished a year in the wilderness. That’s a years punishment for each day you sinned.
Numbers 32;13. And the LORD’S anger was kindled against Israel, and he made them wander in the wilderness forty years, until all the generation, that had done evil in the sight of the LORD, was consumed.
14 And, behold, ye are risen up in your fathers’ stead, an increase of sinful men, to augment yet the fierce anger of the LORD toward Israel.
Amos 5:25. Have ye offered unto me sacrifices and offerings in the wilderness FORTY YEARS, O house of ISRAEL?
Acts 7:36. He brought them out, after that he had shewed wonders and signs in the land of Egypt, and in the Red sea, and in the wilderness forty years.
BABYLON THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS, WHO IS SHE?
Rev 17.5. And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 23: 37.Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that KILLEST THE PROPHETS, and STONEST THEM WHICH ARE SENT UNTO THEE, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not! 38 BEHOLD, YOUR HOUSE is left unto you DESOLATE.
39 For I say unto you, YE SHALL NOT SEE ME henceforth, till ye shall say, BLESSED is he that COMETH in the NAME OF THE LORD.
It is Jerusalem the kills the Prophets and in the near future another two.
Matt 23: 35. THAT UPON YOU may come all the RIGHTEOUS BLOOD SHED UPON THE EARTH, from the blood of righteous ABEL unto the BLOOD of ZACHARIAS son of BARACHIA, WHOM YE SLEW BETWEEN THE TEMPLE AND THE ALTER.
Rev 17: 18. And the woman which thou sawest is THAT GREAT CITY, which reigneth over the kings of the earth.
Rev 17.5. And upon her forehead was a name written, MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.
Rev 17: 1. And there came one of the seven angels which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come hither; I will shew unto thee the judgement of the great harlot that sitteth upon many waters:
Rev 16: 19. AND THAT GREAT CITY was divided into three parts, and the cities of the nations fell: and GREAT BABYLON came in remembrance before God, to give unto her the cup of the wine of the fierceness of his wrath.
Rev 14: 8. And there followed another angel, saying, BABYLON IS FALLEN THAT GREAT CITY, because she made all nations drink of the wine of the wrath of her fornication.
Rev 11: 7. And when they shall have finished their testimony, the beast that ascendeth out of the bottomless pit shall make war against them, and shall overcome them, and kill them. 8 And their dead bodies shall lie in the street of the GREAT CITY, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO OUR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED.
We have “GREAT CITY WHERE OUR LORD WAS KILLED!”
JERUSALEM
We have “GREAT CITY JERUSALEM.”
Rev 13: 33. Nevertheless I must walk to day, and to morrow, and the day following: FOR IT CANNOT BE THAT A PROPHET PERISH OUT OF JERUSALEM.
It cannot be anywhere but Jerusalem where the Prophets die.
Rev 18: 5. For her sins have reached unto heaven, and GOD HATH REMEMBERED HER INIQUITIES .
6. REWARD HER AS SHE REWARDED YOU, and double unto her double according to her works: in the cup which she hath filled fill to her double.
7 How much she hath glorified herself, and lived deliciously, so much torment and sorrow give her: for she saith in her heart, I sit a queen, and am no widow, and shall see no sorrow.
Joel 3: 15. The LORD also shall roar out of ZION, and utter his voice from JERUSALEM; and the heavens and the earth shall shake: but the LORD will be the hope of his people, and the strength of the children of ISRAEL.
Joel 3: 17. So shall ye know that I am the LORD your GOD DWELLING IN ZION MY HOLY MOUNTAIN: THEN SHALL JERUSALEM BE HOLY, and there shall NO STRANGERS PASS THROUGH HER ANY MORE.
Daniel 11: 28. Then shall he return into his land with great riches; and his heart shall be against the holy covenant; and he shall do exploits, and return to his own land.
The fourth beast one world order, will step into Jerusalem, only this time she will relent after awhile and welcome a new leader that pops up among their leadership. He will sit on the mount, and Jerusalem?
She will give herself and ride on all the nations of the fourth beast.
Daniel 8: 23. And in the latter time of their kingdom, when the transgressors are come to the full, a king of fierce countenance, and understanding dark sentences, shall stand up
Daniel 11:29. At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; BUT IT SHALL NOT BE AS THE FORMER, or as the latter.
Chittim is the old name for Cyprus, where the American 3rd fleet is berthed.
Daniel 11:30. For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and HAVE INDIGNATION AGAINST THE HOLY COVENANT: so shall he do; he shall even return, AND HAVE INTELLIGENCE WITH THEM THAT FORSAKE THE HOLY COVENANT.
He will sit where he ought not. On the mount of the congregation at the sides of the North in Jerusalem.
Isaiah 14:14. For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north:
Rev 2: 9. I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.
The gentiles (strangers) will go into Jerusalem for 3 ½ years.
Rev 11:2. But the court which is without the temple leave out, and measure it not; for it is given UNTO THE GENTILES: and THE HOLY CITY SHALL THEY TREAD UNDER FOOT FORTY TWO MONTHS.
Ezek 16:40. They shall also BRING UP A COMPANY AGAINST THEE, and they shall stone thee with stones, and thrust thee through with their sword.
Zechariah 12:2. Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem. 3And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Rev 23: 37.Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that KILLEST THE PROPHETS,
What do we have so far?
Rev 23: 38. BEHOLD, YOUR HOUSE is left unto you DESOLATE.
Rev 14: 8. We now have BABYLON GREAT CITY!
Rev 11.7. THAT GREAT CITY, which spiritually is called Sodom and Egypt, WHERE ALSO OUR LORD WAS CRUCIFIED.
We have, Jerusalem who kills the Prophets,
We have, Her house left desolate.
We have, BABYLON, THAT GREAT CITY.
We have THAT GREAT CITY where also our LORD WAS KILLED!
BABYLON IS JERUSALEM!
Rev 18: 20. And the LIGHT of a candle shall shine no more at all in thee; and THE VOICE OF THE BRIDEGROOM and of the BRIDE shall be HEARD NO MORE AT ALL IN THEE: for thy MERCHANTS were the great MEN OF THE EARTH; for by thy SORCERIES were all NATIONS deceived.
24 And IN HER was found the BLOOD OF THE PROPHETS, and of SAINTS, and of all that were slain upon the earth.
The new bride is to come and replace the harlot.
Rev 21: 9. And there came unto me one of the seven angels which had the seven vials full of the seven last plagues, and talked with me, saying, Come hither, I will shew thee the BRIDE, the LAMB’S WIFE.
10 And he carried me away in the spirit to a great and high mountain, and shewed me that GREAT CITY, the HOLY JERUSALEM, descending out of heaven from God, 11Having the glory of God: and her light was like unto a stone most precious, even like a jasper stone, clear as crystal;
Maranatha.
P C.