Trump may invoke the Insurrection Act in order to deploy military within the US

[camille70]

Pat Robertson has spoken...

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1267891912910012417?s=20

 

[OldWiseGuy]

Did I not call it murder many posts ago?

 

[wing2000]

...who will be the next Secretary of Defense?

Esper says he opposes use of Insurrection Act, which would allow regular military to perform law enforcement duties.
[edit - adding full statment]

“I do not support invoking the Insurrection Act. The option to use active-duty forces in a law enforcement role should only be used as a matter of last resort and only in the most urgent and dire of situations. We are not in one of those situations now.”

Esper's announcement follows a resignation by James N. Miller from the Defense Science Board....in his letter to Epsy he noted:

As a concerned citizen, and as a former senior defense official who cares deeply about the military, I urge you to consider closely both your future actions and your future words. For example, some could interpret literally your suggestion to the nation’s governors Monday that they need to “dominate the battlespace.” I cannot believe that you see the United States as a “battlespace,” or that you believe our citizens must be “dominated.” Such language sends an extremely dangerous signal.

You have made life-and-death decisions in combat overseas; soon you may be asked to make life-and-death decisions about using the military on American streets and against Americans. Where will you draw the line, and when will you draw it?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5e076c-a5a7-11ea-898e-b21b9a83f792_story.html

 

[OldWiseGuy]

...who will be the next Secretary of Defense?

Esper says he opposes use of Insurrection Act, which would allow regular military to perform law enforcement duties.

Esper's announcement follows a resignation by James N. Miller from the Defense Science Board....in his letter to Epsy he noted:

As a concerned citizen, and as a former senior defense official who cares deeply about the military, I urge you to consider closely both your future actions and your future words. For example, some could interpret literally your suggestion to the nation’s governors Monday that they need to “dominate the battlespace.” I cannot believe that you see the United States as a “battlespace,” or that you believe our citizens must be “dominated.” Such language sends an extremely dangerous signal.

You have made life-and-death decisions in combat overseas; soon you may be asked to make life-and-death decisions about using the military on American streets and against Americans. Where will you draw the line, and when will you draw it?



https://www.washingtonpost.com/poli...5e076c-a5a7-11ea-898e-b21b9a83f792_story.html

I think Trump meant "dominate" the situation.

 

[wing2000]

I think Trump meant "dominate" the situation.

..eh. Seems his Secretary of Defense had a different understanding.

 

[OldWiseGuy]

..eh. Seems his Secretary of Defense had a different understanding.

It seems so.

 

[iluvatar5150]

I think Trump meant "dominate" the situation.

In Jersey, The Situation dominates you.

 

[TLK Valentine]

Riots, curfews, martial law, runaway pandemic.

There really are no words.

"Dystopia" comes to mind.

 

[cow451]

Pat Robertson has spoken...

https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1267891912910012417?s=20

Pretty bad when a Bible-waving President gets dressed down by [at Robertson...

 

[TLK Valentine]

...who will be the next Secretary of Defense?

My money's on Tom Cotton -- he knows how to get on Donald's good side.

Opinion | Tom Cotton: Send In the Troops

 

[essentialsaltes]

In a heated and contentious debate in the Oval Office last Monday morning, President Trump demanded the military put 10,000 active duty troops into the streets immediately, a senior administration official told CBS News. Attorney General William Barr, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Joint Chiefs Chairman Mark Milley objected to the demand, the official said.

In an attempt to satisfy Mr. Trump's demand, Esper and Milley used a call with the nation's governors later that morning to implore them to call up the National Guard in their own states, the official said. If these governors didn't "call up the Guard, we'd have (active duty) troops all over the country," this official said.

That same day, the Pentagon started bringing in 1,600 active-duty troops to bases just outside the District of Columbia. Late that afternoon, Esper and Milley were on their way to the FBI's Washington Field Office, where the command center for the military and law enforcement response to the protests was located, the official said. En route, they received a call to come to the White House to give the President an update.

They did not brief the president, but they were asked to stay for his address in the Rose Garden and then to accompany him on the walk across Lafayette Park to St. John's Church. Milley had been wearing his dress uniform in the morning but changed to his combat fatigues because he knew it was going to be a long night at the FBI command center, the official said. Neither man realized the purpose of the walk was to stage a photo op in front of the church.

 

[camille70]

Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab Protesters Off Portland Streets

 

[camille70]

The Police Detentions in Portland Are Only a Dress Rehearsal

 

[wing2000]

Federal Law Enforcement Use Unmarked Vehicles To Grab Protesters Off Portland Streets

Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.

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But interviews conducted by OPB show officers are also detaining people on Portland streets who aren’t near federal property, nor is it clear that all of the people being arrested have engaged in criminal activity.

Is this America or Russia?

 

[camille70]

Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.

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But interviews conducted by OPB show officers are also detaining people on Portland streets who aren’t near federal property, nor is it clear that all of the people being arrested have engaged in criminal activity.

Is this America or Russia?

This is going to get ugly IMO. How long before militia groups start grabbing and harming or killing protesters or citizen? This is a dangerous precedent and needs to end now.

Another article, references WAPO reporting, but since it's daily kos the commentary is a bit biased.

.What Trump is doing in Portland is terrifying, and it's coming soon to a town near you

What Trump is doing in Portland is terrifying, and it's coming soon to a town near you

 

[wing2000]

This is going to get ugly IMO. How long before militia groups start grabbing and harming or killing protesters or citizen? This is a dangerous precedent and needs to end now.

...and bringing in heavily armed Feds only ends up escalating tensions....it's counter-productive.

 

[GreatLakes4Ever]

This is going to get ugly IMO. How long before militia groups start grabbing and harming or killing protesters or citizen? This is a dangerous precedent and needs to end now.

Another article, references WAPO reporting, but since it's daily kos the commentary is a bit biased.

.What Trump is doing in Portland is terrifying, and it's coming soon to a town near you

What Trump is doing in Portland is terrifying, and it's coming soon to a town near you

I’m wondering the opposite. How long until federal marshalls grab a militia member? The militia will freak out and start firing upon the federal marshalls. At least the protesters tend to not be heavily armed. Militia groups are. This can very quickly escalate.

 

[hedrick]

I’m wondering the opposite. How long until federal marshalls grab a militia member? The militia will freak out and start firing upon the federal marshalls. At least the protesters tend to not be heavily armed. Militia groups are. This can very quickly escalate.

Or the police grab a federal agent for looking like a criminal. No ID, grabbing people. Sounds suspicious to me.

 

[Paulos23]

Or the police grab a federal agent for looking like a criminal. No ID, grabbing people. Sounds suspicious to me.

Sounds like Russa.

 

[Aryeh Jay]

Federal law enforcement officers have been using unmarked vehicles to drive around downtown Portland and detain protesters since at least July 14. Personal accounts and multiple videos posted online show the officers driving up to people, detaining individuals with no explanation of why they are being arrested, and driving off.

...
But interviews conducted by OPB show officers are also detaining people on Portland streets who aren’t near federal property, nor is it clear that all of the people being arrested have engaged in criminal activity.

Is this America or Russia?

Don't break the law, Don't protest police brutality, and Don't bad mouth the President and you should be just fine.