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Trump: “I want to try and get to heaven, if possible,”

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Ever hear the term throwing out the baby with the bath water?
Thank you. I really mean that. Your's is perhaps the best argument I've come across here about keeping USAID. It doesn't deny that funds were misspent, only that it also did good as well.

A very real question is how much good verses how much waste. Like some charities who collect money for one cause but end up spending very little of it for that purpose. Amazing how much "overhead" eats up. And as long as it's not outright fraud, it's perfectly legal. At some point the rot is so far gone that the best thing is to start over from scratch.
 
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I guess its best if people taking communion aren't thinking about wow this is a great pinot noir or whatever.
LOL! My old parish used Franzia chillable Red for Communion. I know others use bottle of red wine, some even use white.

I actually drink that sometimes.
 
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LOL! My old parish used Franzia chillable Red for Communion. I know others use bottle of red wine, some even use white.

I actually drink that sometimes.
I was at an Evangelical church once and got flat strawberry Fanta and stale arrowroot biscuits. But their hearts were in the right place.
 
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I was at an Evangelical church once and got flat strawberry Fanta and stale arrowroot biscuits. But their hearts were in the right place.
Wow! That's quite interesting, to say the least. I know some use grape juice, but most liturgical Churches do not.
 
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I was at an Evangelical church once and got flat strawberry Fanta and stale arrowroot biscuits. But their hearts were in the right place.

There's the great story, perhaps apocryphal, of prisoners in Uruguay, who had communion with no elements. Perhaps a most substantial communion?

 
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And? A barber could have come up with it cutting the football coach's hair and it would still be funny.

My guess is that you're not a White Evangelical Christian, otherwise you'd know that as a "voting block," it's about as unified as a church business meeting. It's more of the Democrats saying "We don't want you," and voters taking them at their word.

The amazing thing is that an average person can say that they hope they've done enough good things to get to Heaven and people think nothing of it. Trump says pretty much the same thing, and people think there's a political ulterior motive.
Bingo:
"The amazing thing is that an average person can say that they hope they've done enough good things to get to Heaven and people think nothing of it. Trump says pretty much the same thing, and people think there's a political ulterior motive."

...for this reason:

"Taken at face value, the average person doesn't play a charade of faith in order to use those of faith to get a desired outcome."

Politics was the motivation; for Trump and the leaders of that religious voting block.
 
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I was at an Evangelical church once and got flat strawberry Fanta and stale arrowroot biscuits. But their hearts were in the right place.
Were they trying to test God?
 
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As is well known, USAID was not solely devoted to humanitarian aid but to economic and political development as well. It did not initiate programs but funded them at the request of the countries involved. BTW, the two examples you cited are flat-out lies.
“Soft-power” is a waste of money if you have the strongest military.
Apparently.
 
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I was at an Evangelical church once and got flat strawberry Fanta and stale arrowroot biscuits.
The church-discussions that led to “Fanta”, must have been entertaining.
 
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This is why the Democratic Party has lost two out of three elections to President Trump. Since his entry into U.S. politics, Democrats have frequently questioned his intellect, yet they have been defeated twice. Whether one agrees with President Trump or not, or believes his political strategy is beneficial or detrimental to America, it is necessary to acknowledge that his political skills are unmatched by any politician in the past fifty years. However, Democrats often struggle to accept this reality. Remarks such as “he doesn’t know anything” or “he never read anything” are common from Democratic critics. If President Trump lacks knowledge as they claim, it raises questions about their own skills or knowledge given these electoral outcomes.

An alternative hypothesis: Trump's politics skills (such as they are) don't exist in a vacuum: context is everything. The American electorate, worn down by decades of neoliberal technical managerialism, lost faith in major social institutions after the 2008 financial crisis, which made them vulnerable to demagogues.
 
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