Trump: “I want to try and get to heaven, if possible,”

[RileyG]

He's committed adultery several times.

Apparently he doesn't think that may necessitate forgiveness from Presbyterians.

Again...not familiar with thwir dogma.

Lil help?

He admitted he doesn’t ask forgiveness for his sins.

I will leave it at that.

 

[Jerry N.]

Still, calling Holy Communion a cracker is rather inappropriate, imo.

You are correct, but I think it should be matzah.

 

[wing2000]

Many of the humanitarian functions of USAID are going to continue under The State Department, but the details have not been published.

So Rubio claims. I'll believe when I see evidence reported from aid organizations in those countries.

 

[Say it aint so]

That's actually funny. White. Evangelical. Christians. Where's the emphasis in this label? White, evangelical, or Christian? "Progressives" tend to think all three are bad. Yeah, that's really going to get "Progressives" the "Whites," "evangelicals," and Christian votes.

Somehow I don't think "White Evangelical Christians" are the only ones who're hoping to eventually go to Heaven, or reach Nirvana, or whatever you want to think comes later. I really don't. Atheists, who look forward to a dreamless sleep of non-existence, are excepted. And no, that's not a slur. Isaac Asimov said as much in an essay. And yet when we have a public figure express the same thing most are hoping for, in the exact same way, by "good works," then it's immediately labeled as appealing to an imaginary "voting block," even though Christians immediately pick up on how it's trusting in one's own works and not Christ.

Taken at face value, Trump's statement is no different than an average American saying "I'm a good person. I hope I make it to Heaven." None.

White Evangelical Christians is not a term I made up. Pew: "White evangelicals continue to stand out in their support for Trump". It's who they are. And no, that voting bloc and the power of that voting bloc is not imaginary. And let it be said those Christian power brokers who have Trump on speed dial see it as means for power for they themselves. (Maybe not Jerry Falwell Jr so much now). Perhaps you don't live in the states?

Taken at face value, the average doesn't play a charade of faith in order to use those of faith to get a desired outcome.

 

[ozso]

Still, calling Holy Communion a cracker is rather inappropriate, imo.

What about calling Holy Communion wine?

 

[BCP1928]

You are correct, but I think it should be matzah.

Along with kosher wine and the blessing of the Elements in Hebrew.

 

[RileyG]

What about calling Holy Communion wine?

What about it? It’s called the Blood of Christ, or for those who don’t accept the real presence, communion wine.

 

[ozso]

What about it? It’s called the Blood of Christ, or for those who don’t accept the real presence, communion wine.

So saying wine is okay. And I'm assuming saying bred or wafer is also okay, when describing the elements.

 

[FaithT]

What about it? It’s called the Blood of Christ, or for those who don’t accept the real presence, communion wine.

Or also, the Eucharist as well, correct?

 

[RileyG]

So saying wine is okay. And I'm assuming saying bred or wafer is also okay, when describing the elements.

Ok.

 

[RileyG]

Or also, the Eucharist as well, correct?

Correct. The precious blood is the Eucharist.

 

[durangodawood]

Correct. The precious blood is the Eucharist.

When its in the bottle on the shelf, is it "wine" then?

 

[RileyG]

When its in the bottle on the shelf, is it "wine" then?

Yes?

 

[FaithT]

When its in the bottle on the shelf, is it "wine" then?

Yes since transubstantiation hasn’t yet occurred.

 

[FaithT]

Correct. The precious blood is the Eucharist.

Ok, I thought so.