Transgender "Inclusive"Language:Where does it end and begin?

[Red Fox]

Look I get that what I am saying will become a felony before its all said n done... I get that if ppl want to be apart must know the precepts, concepts n statues of Yahweh's kingdom n it takes self sacrifice.... Being Holy for He is Holy.

No, what you are saying is seen as being hypocritical. And if I were to guess a wager, you are not without sin, therefore you cannot holy as God is holy.

 

[KarateCowboy]

So, you believe that a) trans*-people aren't harassed, insulted, rejected, or physically assaulted, or b) you do not believe that these reactions have got anything to do with whether they are content or suffering?

Unless you live in an alternate bizarro universe, violence (both physical and psychological) aimed at trans*-persons is a daily reality.

You know, I imagine that if I meant to say that fauxgender people aren't harassed then I would have written "fauxgender people aren't harassed". But I didn't write that, now did I? How ironic that you are answering something I quite clearly did not write, but then following up with suggestions that I am somehow not looking at reality.

 

[Red Fox]

Justifications only sound good to those who are making them.... Shalom

No one here is justifying sin or what is perceived to be sin by many Christians.

Once you manage to get the log out of your own eye, you can then be more concerned with the plank in your brother's eye.

 

[KarateCowboy]

I don't think you understood what I was saying, Gender Dysphoria is a physical birth defect just like what I was born with, a cleft lip and palate. No amount of "learning how to handle and use it well" nor "spiritual and emotional alteration" could have sealed the hole that I was born with in my palate and lip.

Do you have some source, or are you just going by the popular myth? I'm fairly certain the consensus is that GID has no firmly established etiology

 

[allhart]

Look the bible is a constitution n bridal agreement n the laws are promises if one takes up the Holy Spirit..., u will not kill, u will not commit adultery, u will not be a drunkard, u will not be etc etc etc.... Fill in the blanks....
As a Christian you will model the kingship of the Kingdom.... It's in our nature or character to hold on to the integrity of Yahweh.... Yahweh is about protecting His integrity.

 

[allhart]

I guess if one holds on to their own personal truth.... This is why we have 41K denominations however there is only one house, one kingdom n one covenant ppl!

 

[Red Fox]

Look the bible is a constitution n bridal agreement n the laws are promises if one takes up the Holy Spirit..., u will not kill, u will not commit adultery, u will not be a drunkard, u will not be etc etc etc.... Fill in the blanks....
As a Christian you will model the kingship of the Kingdom

Yes, I am well aware of what the Bible is, thank you, having spent the majority of my life in the church. First, thou shalt not kill. Jesus expanded that commandment and said if you hate another person, then you are a murderer in God's eyes (1 John 3:15). Second, thou shalt no commit adultery. Jesus expanded that commandment too and said that if you look at a woman with lust, you have committed adultery with her already in your heart (Matthew 5:27-28). The Bible also says that the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars will have their part in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8). So, considering all of these scriptures warning people of the dire consequences for their sins, many Christians should be more careful before they start casting stones at other people.

 

[Red Fox]

I guess if one holds on to their own personal truth.... This is why we have 41K denominations however there is only one house, one kingdom n one covenant ppl!

Yes, that is what many Christians do, and in all honestly, it is exactly what you are doing too.

 

[allhart]

No, what you are saying is hypocritical. And if I were to guess a wager, you are not without sin, therefore you cannot holy as God is holy.

You are accountable for what u know. Those that willingly or willfully sinners are more miserable than those who never knew. Those that love their life more than Yahweh get what they have. We can't overcome sin in our own strength, yes I can contest to that... To say we can't strive to become like Yahweh is lie.... I do not kill, why because it's easier not to or because I know better!?

 

[allhart]

Yes, I am well aware of what the Bible is, thank you, having spent the majority of my life in the church. First, thou shalt not kill. Jesus expanded that commandment and said if you hate another person, then you are a murderer in God's eyes (1 John 3:15). Second, thou shalt no commit adultery. Jesus expanded that commandment too and said that if you look at a woman with lust, you have committed adultery with her already in your heart (Matthew 5:27-28). The Bible also says that the cowardly, the unbelieving, the vile, the murderers, the sexually immoral, those who practice magic arts, the idolaters and all liars will have their part in the lake of fire (Revelation 21:8). So, considering all of these scriptures warning people of the dire consequences for their sins, many Christians should be more careful before they start casting stones at other people.

So now we have the old wine skin trying to champion the new!?

 

[allhart]

Yes, that is what many Christians do, and in all honestly, it is exactly what you are doing too.

So many assumptions but I get hurt ppl hurt ppl... You do not know my heart n interject your character on to me. Yahweh said not to get offended so easily!

 

[Red Fox]

So many assumptions but I get hurt ppl hurt ppl... You do not know my heart n interject your character on to me. Yahweh said not to get offended so easily!

No, I do not know your heart, just as you do not know the heart of the transgender people you are judging.

 

[allhart]

I want all to be saved not one to go to the lake of fire. Yahweh wants nothing more than to give mercy but not at the expense of his creed.... We must repent n turn from our wicked ways....

 

[Red Fox]

You are accountable for what u know.

And according to the Bible, you will also be held accountable for your words and actions.

Those that willingly or willfully sinners are more miserable than those who never knew. Those that love their life more than Yahweh get what they have. We can't overcome sin in our own strength, yes I can contest to that... To say we can't strive to become like Yahweh is lie.... I do not kill, why because it's easier not to or because I know better!?

No one said Christians cannot strive to be more like God, but many Christians need to be careful because they could condemn themselves when they point out the sins of others (Romans 2:1-4; Romans 2: 21-24). As Jesus said, he who is without sin, let him be the one who cast the first stone (John 8:7). It astonishes me how many Christians are concerned with the lives of others and the sins they perceive these people to be committing, but many of them seem to show little interest or concern for their own sins.

 

[allhart]

No, I do not know your heart, just as you do not know the heart of the transgender people you are judging.

There is a difference btw judgements n condemnation, my friend!

 

[Red Fox]

I want all to be saved not one to go to the lake of fire. Yahweh wants nothing more than to give mercy but not at the expense of his creed.... We must repent n turn from our wicked ways....

And that is your belief and believe or not, I respect that belief. But what I do not and cannot respect is the judgmental attitude many Christians have toward other people that they do not like and whose lifestyle they do not approve of, which would be transgender people in this case. I think it is not unreasonable or unfair to expect Christians, who claim to follow Jesus Christ and His teaching, to treat other people with respect, dignity and compassion, whether they like those other people or not.

 

[allhart]

And according to the Bible, you will also be held accountable for your words and actions.



No one said Christians cannot strive to be more like God, but many Christians need to be careful because they could condemn themselves when they point out the sins of others (Romans 2:1-4; Romans 2: 21-24). As Jesus said, he who is without sin, let him be the one who cast the first stone (John 8:7). It astonishes me how many Christians are concerned with the lives of others and the sins they perceive these people to be committing, but so many of them seem to show little interest or concern for their own sins.

So if you say that your a fruit branch, but if u bear no fruit what does the father do!?
Is America becoming more or less like the kingdom!? I mean we have had the sexual revolution now the transgender revolution next is reprobate mind.... History repeats itself..... Repent like the city of Nineveh (Jonah went to the city nineveh) but the king even poured ash on his headed n repented or become like Sodom n Gomorrah etc. You think Obama will pour ash in his head? lol

 

[Red Fox]

There is a difference btw judgements n condemnation, my friend!

It is a very thin line and more often than not, it is crossed, my friend.

 

[Cute Tink]

Unity doesn't necessarily need to be uniformity....

Not sure how that addresses what I wrote, but more power to you.

 

[Cute Tink]

Look I get that what I am saying will become a felony before its all said n done... I get that if ppl want to be apart must know the precepts, concepts n statues of Yahweh's kingdom n it takes self sacrifice.... Being Holy for He is Holy.

Felony? No, but we are going to challenge what you say. At least when it's not off topic platitudes.