This Will Not Work

[cow451]

I have no problem with that as long as there are requirements for getting/maintaining it. For example, in GA we have HOPE ( the way it works is we have HOPE and ZELL Miller). Both are funded by the lottery to get Zell one must have I believe a 3.7 coming out of high school AND have earned a certain score on the SAT or ACT. For HOPE one must have a 3.0 and either I believe have a certain score on the test OR have a certain class rink ( like top 50% or something. HOPE pays for school meanwhile ZELL I believe covers school and books. To keep HOPE once you are in college you must maintain a 3.0 ( with an hours cap) to keep/get ZELL you must keep I believe it is a 3.2 or 3.3GPA ( with the same hours cap) If you fall off of the GPA requirements ( checked every so many hours) you lose the scholarship and may regain it only one time, so if you lose it a second time that is it. I am fine with such programs that require something of the students for the "free" money.

It’s pretty much like HOPE, which Tennessee has, too. The target of Tennessee Promise is the adult population that need and want more education but have been out too long for other aid and would have to go into debt. SAHMs, people with dependent children who have to work, etc.

My friends daughter teaches at a CC and says some are people that need a credential to advance or were “late bloomers”. And some just aren’t going to be able to do the academic work.

 

[dogs4thewin]

It’s pretty much like HOPE, which Tennessee has, too. The target of Tennessee Promise is the adult population that need and want more education but have been out too long for other aid and would have to go into debt. SAHMs, people with dependent children who have to work, etc.

My friends daughter teaches at a CC and says some are people that need a credential to advance or were “late bloomers”. And some just aren’t going to be able to do the academic work.

See our HOPE is for people up to seven years out of high school ( used to be for anyone then they changed it for my class or later ( class of 2010) There are exceptions for people in the military ( who were forced out of school for a period of time ( especially reserves and guard that do not get the active duty assistance or those on active duty who were discharged before they earned the GI bill. ( for a reason beyond their control As well as for teachers.

 

[Hank77]

I’d like to see more apprenticeship and technical education earlier than college

We need to get out of the education box and train young people based on their aptitudes instead of college prep being the assumed best track.

Agree

Tennessee —under a GOP administration — is now providing free community college for everyone eligible for admission.

Several of my middle school classmates attended a Vo-Tech high school. They went to learn LP Nursing, hairdressing and cosmetology, building trades, welding, etc. One of them I know became a successful building contractor and one went on to RNursing. That was before computer technology.
The state still funds and manages the Technical Education and Career System.

Free post high school training could actually pay off in a better skilled more adaptable work force.

Agree.

 

[Hank77]

I have no problem with that as long as there are requirements for getting/maintaining it. For example, in GA we have HOPE ( the way it works is we have HOPE and ZELL Miller). Both are funded by the lottery to get Zell one must have I believe a 3.7 coming out of high school AND have earned a certain score on the SAT or ACT. For HOPE one must have a 3.0 and either I believe have a certain score on the test OR have a certain class rank ( like top 50% or something. HOPE pays for school meanwhile ZELL I believe covers school and books. To keep HOPE once you are in college you must maintain a 3.0 ( with an hours cap) to keep/get ZELL you must keep I believe it is a 3.2 or 3.3GPA ( with the same hours cap) If you fall off of the GPA requirements ( checked every so many hours) you lose the scholarship and may regain it only one time, so if you lose it a second time that is it. I am fine with such programs that require something of the students for the "free" money.

HOPE is only for outstanding students and funds both public and private colleges.
Zell Miller is a scholarship and also only for outstanding students.
Neither of these programs are going to help most students train for the work force.

 

[dogs4thewin]

HOPE is only for outstanding students and funds both public and private colleges.
Zell Miller is a scholarship and also only for outstanding students.
Neither of these programs are going to help most students train for the work force.

3.0 is not hard to maintain. In general unless there is something going on like family problems/illness and the like that is beyond the student's control.