There is no Rapture

[Brian Mcnamee]

Nothing in the 6th Seal states the scroll is unrolled. Where is that coming from? Why are you putting tens of billions of humans into Jerusalem at the 6th Seal? Oh, wait, you are post mill in your church being glorified. You don't accept the church is glorified until the GWT. Where did Paul teach the church is glorified 1,000 years after the Second Coming? Where did Paul teach being glorified is separate from the Second Coming? The rapture and Second Coming is the same event, the 5th and 6th Seals. You and I are souls under the alter. We are covered under the Atonement of the Cross. Not sure why you deny being a soul covered by the blood of the Lamb, and named in the Lamb's book of life.

the souls under the altar are specifically those who came out of the great tribulation it is clear in the text the other souls in Rev 5 exalting the LORD when he opens the seals are there before the tribulation starts and they sing they are the redeemed from every tribe tongue kindred and nation by the blood of the LAMB. Now the church is no mentioned by name after chapter 3. rev 6 9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were,was completed.

9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:
“Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom,
Thanksgiving and honor and power and might,
Be to our God forever and ever.
Amen.”
13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?”
14 And I said to him, “Sir, you know.”
So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. 16 They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters.[fn] And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

 

[RandyPNW]

But when they stand up again, their testimony is confirmed and vindicated!

Well, that's a clever response but not true, I feel. Their prophetic ministry ends with their death. So no, I'm not corrupting Scriptures by believing what seems obvious to me.

It's important to me to believe this because as was said, we cannot know or predetermine the day of the Lord's return. He is *not* therefore coming on the 1260th day after Antichrist begins his reign. That would make Christ's reign relatively predictable.

If you will look closely at the passage, you will see that Armageddon hasn't even begun its preparation until *after* the ministry of the 2 Witnesses. And an international mobilization to Armageddon in Israel will take a long time.

Rev 11.14 The second woe has passed; the third woe is coming soon.

The 2nd Woe is roughly the period of Antichrist's absolute rule. The 3rd Woe is the Coming of Christ. In between is this period described as "coming soon." This is the mobilization to Armageddon, in my view.

This makes Christ's Coming not only unpredictable, but a matter of faith. Relatively few will believe the Antichrist is the Antichrist, and will not believe the mobilization to Armageddon is actually the Apocalypse! These things will be a matter of faith for the Christian.

I believe the 1260 days are assigned to a time when Antichrist's reign will be indestructible. Revelation indicates other leaders will say, "Who can challenge him?" He will be more than a superpower--he will be Satan's power on earth, ruling unquestionably.

But after the 1260th day, he will lose his absolute authority, and other political leaders, other nations, will challenge him, which is what I believe leads to Armageddon. In other words, I believe the 3.5 years was meant to describe Antichrist's period of absolute power, after which there is this extensive mobilization of the world to Armageddon.

I'm not dogmatic on this. It's my theory of how this should be interpreted.

 

[Dale]

You were asking a question about Matthew 5:5 and I was answering it.

Don't see it as Christians and Jews, see it as the Body of Christ and Israel.

Jews have the opportunity to become Christians but beyond that God doesn't make a special place for them besides the two destinations for all souls. Here are a couple of verses to consider.

By calling this covenant “new”, he has made the first one

obsolete; and what is obsolete and ageing will soon

disappear.

--Hebrews 8:13 NIV


But the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as

the covenant of which He is mediator is superior to the old

one, and it is founded on better promises.

Hebrews 8:6 NIV

As Hebrews 8:13 tells us, the Old Covenant can only disappear. There is no special location on earth for it to continue.

 

[Dale]

But doesn’t Gill ever mention Revelation?

I've never found any Rapture in Revelation, certainly not a Rapture separate from the Second Coming. John Gill's commentary covers every book and every verse of the Bible. Gill believes there will be a Rapture at the same time as the Second Coming. The Rapture could happen at 10 AM and by 2 PM the saints will be in heaven assisting Jesus at the Final Judgment.

John Gill's commentaries are available online from several sources.
See links below.

John Gills Exposition of the Bible Commentary

Books Available - Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org

John Gill’s Exposition of the Bible - Bible Study Online

 

[littleangelone]

i'm not in denial that there is a rapture it just might not happen like believers say it's going to happen, i don't think the rapture is secrect i think Jesus will come visably to earth

 

[Unqualified]

I've never found any Rapture in Revelation, certainly not a Rapture separate from the Second Coming. John Gill's commentary covers every book and every verse of the Bible. Gill believes there will be a Rapture at the same time as the Second Coming. The Rapture could happen at 10 AM and by 2 PM the saints will be in heaven assisting Jesus at the Final Judgment.

John Gill's commentaries are available online from several sources.
See links below.

John Gills Exposition of the Bible Commentary

Books Available - Gill's Exposition of the Whole Bible - Bible Commentaries - StudyLight.org

John Gill’s Exposition of the Bible - Bible Study Online

but you can find the wrath of God and the tribulation in Revelation. He’s making up his own definition of wrath. The Bible is of no private interpretation’. I admit he saw something no one else found but he didn’t consider revelation in his definition of wrath. According to your post.

 

[Dale]

but you can find the wrath of God and the tribulation in Revelation. He’s making up his own definition of wrath. The Bible is of no private interpretation’. I admit he saw something no one else found but he didn’t consider revelation in his definition of wrath. According to your post.

There is tribulation in Revelation but there is no rapture in Revelation. That means that Christians will go through the tribulation.

If you haven't read John Gill I can't put across to you the magnitude of his scholarship. The Dispensationalists aren't even amateurs by comparison. Gill did not invent a novel meaning of wrath, you just don't understand what the Bible means by wrath.

 

[Dale]

There is nowhere in the Bible that says anybody will be taken to heaven, not John 14:1-4, or Matthew 24:31. The only people [dead] will be the two Witnesses, Rev 11:12 and even then, this happens when Jesus Returns and they will go with Jesus to Jerusalem.

I’m not sure what you mean when you say that no one has gone or is going to heaven.
Elijah went to heaven in a flaming chariot.

As they were walking along and talking together, suddenly a
chariot of fire and horses of fire appeared and separated the
two of them, and Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.
Elisha saw this and cried out, “My father! My father! The
chariots and horsemen of Israel!” And Elisha saw him no
more. Then he took hold of his own clothes and tore them
apart.
– II Kings 2:11-12 NIV

Elisha believed that Elijah was escorted to heaven by “horsemen of Israel” who had already passed away.

 

[keras]

Their prophetic ministry ends with their death

But they are brought back to life, maybe the 2 Witnesses didn't say anything as Jesus took them up, but they didn't need to, as THAT was the end of their testimony.

we cannot know or predetermine the day of the Lord's return

This belief is wrong, as it is the Lords Day of wrath, which comes as a thief. The Sixth Seal event.
It is quite wrong to think the glorious Return of Jesus, will be unexpected or to put it crudely: as a thief.
Proved to be an announced event by 1 Thess 4:16 When the Command is given, when the archangel 's shout and the trumpet of God is heard, THEN the Lord Himself will descend from heaven.

If you will look closely at the passage, you will see that Armageddon hasn't even begun its preparation until *after* the ministry of the 2 Witnesses. And an international mobilization to Armageddon in Israel will take a long time.

We are told this mobilization starts at the 6rth Bowl. Revelation 16:12-14
DURING the time the AC has absolute power over the world.
The armies are all at Armageddon when Jesus Returns, 1261 days after the 2W's commence their ministry.
Note: that the earthquake in Rev 11:13 and Rev 16:1, refer to the same event.

What we don't know is the date of the mid point of the final 7 years of this era. Actually, from the signing of the 7 year peace treaty, Daniel 9:27, anyone with a Bible will be able to calculate the date when Jesus will Return.

 

[keras]

I’m not sure what you mean when you say that no one has gone or is going to heaven.
Elijah went to heaven in a flaming chariot.

Elijah was taken up from the earth. He did not go to live in heaven, as we are told he sent a letter to the King after that. 2 Chronicles 21:12
I prefer to believe the plain Words of Jesus: No one goes to heaven, except the One who came from there. John 3:13

 

[Unqualified]

There is tribulation in Revelation but there is no rapture in Revelation. That means that Christians will go through the tribulation.

If you haven't read John Gill I can't put across to you the magnitude of his scholarship. The Dispensationalists aren't even amateurs by comparison. Gill did not invent a novel meaning of wrath, you just don't understand what the Bible means by wrath.

maybe it’s not in revelation but I can show you when it happened and the results of the rapture. Revelation 5:9-12.

praising a mans work does not mean he knows the only truth. Look at wescott-hort translation of New Testament. Well known, widely circulated, very complete exhaustive work, but they don’t even believe Jesus was God. You are impressed by him but he doesn’t consider the GT the wrath of God. Is he seeing the word wrath with different seeming uses. Or reading other words into it that lessen the severity of Gods actual wrath? Gill.

but as you said in post 53 Gill concluded than man is free from the wrath of God.’ So man will not be here during the whole tribulation of the wrath of God

 

[RandyPNW]

But they are brought back to life, maybe the 2 Witnesses didn't say anything as Jesus took them up, but they didn't need to, as THAT was the end of their testimony.

This belief is wrong, as it is the Lords Day of wrath, which comes as a thief. The Sixth Seal event.
It is quite wrong to think the glorious Return of Jesus, will be unexpected or to put it crudely: as a thief.
Proved to be an announced event by 1 Thess 4:16 When the Command is given, when the archangel 's shout and the trumpet of God is heard, THEN the Lord Himself will descend from heaven.


We are told this mobilization starts at the 6rth Bowl. Revelation 16:12-14
DURING the time the AC has absolute power over the world.
The armies are all at Armageddon when Jesus Returns, 1261 days after the 2W's commence their ministry.
Note: that the earthquake in Rev 11:13 and Rev 16:1, refer to the same event.

What we don't know is the date of the mid point of the final 7 years of this era. Actually, from the signing of the 7 year peace treaty, Daniel 9:27, anyone with a Bible will be able to calculate the date when Jesus will Return.

Sorry, we have a lot of differences in our view of things. It's difficult to compare them. I don't believe in a 7 year period. I don't believe that Jesus Returns 1260 days after the 2W's commence their ministry, and I do believe we are not supposed to know the exact day of Christ's Return *after the 1260 days.* I insist that the 3.5 days the 2 Witnesses lie dead in the street *follow* the 1260 days in which they "prophesy."

I don't know if your view or my view can be clearly proven. But I suppose we'll go on trying?

 

[Dale]

Elijah was taken up from the earth. He did not go to live in heaven, as we are told he sent a letter to the King after that. 2 Chronicles 21:12
I prefer to believe the plain Words of Jesus: No one goes to heaven, except the One who came from there. John 3:13

Wow, you are really stuck on the idea that no one from earth goes to heaven.

On John 3:13: Jesus ascended into heaven on His own power. Elijah was escorted to heaven by angels riding flaming chariots. Christians generally go to heaven as spirits. Don’t confuse these different situations. In this light, what Jesus said in John 3:13 makes sense, and it does not contradict a heavenly destination for Christians.

On 2 Chronicles 21:12:
First, what the passage says, since it is not familiar to most Christians.



[King] Jehoram received a letter from Elijah the prophet, which said:
“This is what the LORD, the God of your father David, says:
`You have not walked in the ways of your father Jehoshaphat
or of Asa king of Judah.
But you have walked in the ways of the kings of Israel, and
you have led Judah and the people of Jerusalem to prostitute
themselves, just as the house of Ahab did. You have also
murdered your own brothers, members of your father’s
house, men who were better than you.
So now the LORD is about to strike your people, your sons,
your wives and everything that is yours, with a heavy blow.
II Chronicles 21:12-14 NIV

I know of no one else living today who believes that Elijah came down somewhere on earth after being taken up by flaming chariots. Since this is a difficult passage, I will consult John Gill’s commentary.

John Gill commentary on II Chronicles 21:12:

<< Ver. 12. And there came a writing to him from Elijah the prophet,.... Not what was written by him after his ascension to heaven, and from thence came to Jehoram, even seven years after that, as say some Jewish writers {z}; nor was it a writing from another person of the same name in those times, since of such
an one we nowhere read; nor from Elisha bearing the name of Elijah, having a double portion of his spirit on him, since he is never so called; but this was a writing of Elijah's before his ascension, who, foreseeing by a spirit of prophecy what Jehoram would be guilty of, wrote this, and gave it to one of the prophets, as Kimchi suggests, and most probably to Elisha, to communicate it to him at a proper time; and who might, as the above writer intimates, think it
came immediately from heaven: >>

Gill concludes that Elijah wrote the letter before being escorted to heaven, and it was delivered by fellow prophets years later.

 

[keras]

I don't know if your view or my view can be clearly proven. But I suppose we'll go on trying?

I see Revelation 19:1-10, as very informative.
It says that God has gained the Victory over His enemies and the Lord has entered His earthly reign. Hie 'bride' is made ready and happy are those who are invited to the Wedding Supper.
The wrath of God is over, Revelation 15:1, and Jesus makes His glorious Return, Revelation 19:11-16

This all happens when the allowed time of 42 months; Revelation 13:5, exactly 1260 days, for the 'beast' to be in power has expired.
A culmination of things, all arriving at the point when Jesus' Returns:
1/The 'beast' allowed to blaspheme God and to defeat the holy people. Rev 13:5 The 7th Bowl is Armageddon. Rev 16:16-17
2/ The ministry of the Two Witnesses. Rev 11:3
3/ The fulfilment of the 7 Trumpets and the 7 Bowls; the Great Tribulation of the ungodly peoples.
4/ The protection of half of Gods people in a place of safety. Rev 12:14 They are gathered at the Return; Matthew 24:31, 1 Thess 4:17
5/ The persecution of the rest of the Christians. Rev 12:17 Those killed will be the GT martyrs. Rev 20:4

Wow, you are really stuck on the idea that no one from earth goes to heaven.

I find it very nice and comfortable to be stuck on the truth.
Other people can entertain fanciful ideas of escape and instant immortality before any testing and Judgment, but I look forward, with great anticipation to the wonderful Blessings Promised to God's faithful people, as we go to live in all of the holy Land. Our destiny, our privilege and our great Christian heritage. Galatians 3-29

 

[Timtofly]

the souls under the altar are specifically those who came out of the great tribulation it is clear in the text the other souls in Rev 5 exalting the LORD when he opens the seals are there before the tribulation starts and they sing they are the redeemed from every tribe tongue kindred and nation by the blood of the LAMB. Now the church is no mentioned by name after chapter 3. rev 6 9 When He opened the fifth seal, I saw under the altar the souls of those who had been slain for the word of God and for the testimony which they held. 10 And they cried with a loud voice, saying, “How long, O Lord, holy and true, until You judge and avenge our blood on those who dwell on the earth?” 11 Then a white robe was given to each of them; and it was said to them that they should rest a little while longer, until both the number of their fellow servants and their brethren, who would be killed as they were,was completed.

9 After these things I looked, and behold, a great multitude which no one could number, of all nations, tribes, peoples, and tongues, standing before the throne and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, with palm branches in their hands, 10 and crying out with a loud voice, saying, “Salvation belongs to our God who sits on the throne, and to the Lamb!” 11 All the angels stood around the throne and the elders and the four living creatures, and fell on their faces before the throne and worshiped God, 12 saying:
“Amen! Blessing and glory and wisdom,
Thanksgiving and honor and power and might,
Be to our God forever and ever.
Amen.”
13 Then one of the elders answered, saying to me, “Who are these arrayed in white robes, and where did they come from?”
14 And I said to him, “Sir, you know.”
So he said to me, “These are the ones who come out of the great tribulation, and washed their robes and made them white in the blood of the Lamb. 15 Therefore they are before the throne of God, and serve Him day and night in His temple. And He who sits on the throne will dwell among them. 16 They shall neither hunger anymore nor thirst anymore; the sun shall not strike them, nor any heat; 17 for the Lamb who is in the midst of the throne will shepherd them and lead them to living fountains of waters.[fn] And God will wipe away every tear from their eyes.”

The Church is glorified and all put on white robes at one single time. Not here and there piecemeal.

All the redeemed are killed out of Adam's dead corruptible flesh. They overcome the flesh by the testimony of Jesus Christ.

 

[Dale]

maybe it’s not in revelation but I can show you when it happened and the results of the rapture. Revelation 5:9-12.

praising a mans work does not mean he knows the only truth. Look at wescott-hort translation of New Testament. Well known, widely circulated, very complete exhaustive work, but they don’t even believe Jesus was God. You are impressed by him but he doesn’t consider the GT the wrath of God. Is he seeing the word wrath with different seeming uses. Or reading other words into it that lessen the severity of Gods actual wrath? Gill.

but as you said in post 53 Gill concluded than man is free from the wrath of God.’ So man will not be here during the whole tribulation of the wrath of God

Here are a couple of passages you are overlooking.

I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor
is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
--John 13:16 NIV

Jesus was persecuted and we cannot expect to be above persecution.
The same phrase appears in Matthew. The passage in Matthew explains it at greater length.

Mt. 10:16 I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
Mt. 10:17 “Be on your guard against men; they will hand you over to
the local councils and flog you in their synagogues.
Mt. 10:18 On my account you will be brought before governors and
kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles.
Mt. 10:19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say,
Mt. 10:20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father
speaking through you.
Mt. 10:21 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child;
children will rebel against their parents and have them put to
death.
Mt. 10:22 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Mt. 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell
you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of
Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Mt. 10:24 “A student is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his
master.
Mt. 10:25 It is enough for the student to be like his teacher, and the
servant like his master. If the head of the house has been
called Beelzebub, how much more the members of his household!
Mt. 10:26 “So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.
Matthew 10:16-26 NIV

Jesus was crucified, persecuted and abused to the point of death. We cannot expect to be above persecution.

 

[Dale]

Elijah was taken up from the earth. He did not go to live in heaven, as we are told he sent a letter to the King after that. 2 Chronicles 21:12
I prefer to believe the plain Words of Jesus: No one goes to heaven, except the One who came from there. John 3:13

I see Revelation 19:1-10, as very informative.
It says that God has gained the Victory over His enemies and the Lord has entered His earthly reign. Hie 'bride' is made ready and happy are those who are invited to the Wedding Supper.
The wrath of God is over, Revelation 15:1, and Jesus makes His glorious Return, Revelation 19:11-16

This all happens when the allowed time of 42 months; Revelation 13:5, exactly 1260 days, for the 'beast' to be in power has expired.
A culmination of things, all arriving at the point when Jesus' Returns:
1/The 'beast' allowed to blaspheme God and to defeat the holy people. Rev 13:5 The 7th Bowl is Armageddon. Rev 16:16-17
2/ The ministry of the Two Witnesses. Rev 11:3
3/ The fulfilment of the 7 Trumpets and the 7 Bowls; the Great Tribulation of the ungodly peoples.
4/ The protection of half of Gods people in a place of safety. Rev 12:14 They are gathered at the Return; Matthew 24:31, 1 Thess 4:17
5/ The persecution of the rest of the Christians. Rev 12:17 Those killed will be the GT martyrs. Rev 20:4

I find it very nice and comfortable to be stuck on the truth.
Other people can entertain fanciful ideas of escape and instant immortality before any testing and Judgment, but I look forward, with great anticipation to the wonderful Blessings Promised to God's faithful people, as we go to live in all of the holy Land. Our destiny, our privilege and our great Christian heritage. Galatians 3-29

Keras, you are arguing with the Bible. II Kings 2:11 says “Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.” It doesn’t say anything about him coming down again. If you think he did, you are adding to the Bible.

 

[Unqualified]

Here are a couple of passages you are overlooking.

I tell you the truth, no servant is greater than his master, nor
is a messenger greater than the one who sent him.
--John 13:16 NIV

Jesus was persecuted and we cannot expect to be above persecution.
The same phrase appears in Matthew. The passage in Matthew explains it at greater length.

Mt. 10:16 I am sending you out like sheep among wolves. Therefore be as shrewd as snakes and as innocent as doves.
Mt. 10:17 “Be on your guard against men; they will hand you over to
the local councils and flog you in their synagogues.
Mt. 10:18 On my account you will be brought before governors and
kings as witnesses to them and to the Gentiles.
Mt. 10:19 But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say,
Mt. 10:20 for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father
speaking through you.
Mt. 10:21 “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child;
children will rebel against their parents and have them put to
death.
Mt. 10:22 All men will hate you because of me, but he who stands firm to the end will be saved.
Mt. 10:23 When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell
you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of
Israel before the Son of Man comes.
Mt. 10:24 “A student is not above his teacher, nor a servant above his
master.
Mt. 10:25 It is enough for the student to be like his teacher, and the
servant like his master. If the head of the house has been
called Beelzebub, how much more the members of his household!
Mt. 10:26 “So do not be afraid of them. There is nothing concealed that will not be disclosed, or hidden that will not be made known.
Matthew 10:16-26 NIV

Jesus was crucified, persecuted and abused to the point of death. We cannot expect to be above persecution.

we are not as the church above persecution. It’s happening everywhere even in the western world. But more importantly in the Middle East and Asia. It’s illegal in America…..
Many Christians are already dying for their faith in the millions. In Muslim countries, etc. all of that is going on, in Europe too with terrorism. That prophecy is being fulfilled. All that’s left is the church being removed from the wrath to come.

Israel will be 80 years old in 2028. In one lifetime the end will come after Israel becomes a nation. Seventy years was determined a lifetime but ‘ 80 if your strong’. Jeremiah 30:3

 

[keras]

Keras, you are arguing with the Bible. II Kings 2:11 says “Elijah went up to heaven in a whirlwind.” It doesn’t say anything about him coming down again. If you think he did, you are adding to the Bible.

As I said: I don't argue with Jesus. John 3:13, John 7:34, John 17:15, 1 Peter 4:12-19, Revelation 5:10

Elijah was transported to another earth location. As Philip was: Acts 3:39 And as the faithful Christians will be when Jesus Returns. Matthew 24:31, 1 Thess 4:17

 

[sparow]

One fact from Scripture completely refutes the idea of a pre-rapture. That fact is that the Antichrist will defeat and execute Christians. This fact is stated several times in the Book of Daniel and Revelation (Daniel 7:21, Revelation 13:7, Revelation 20:4). If Christians are persecuted and killed during the reign of the Antichrist, then there can be no pre-rapture. That would otherwise be a clear contradiction.

Jesus will only return once and that is at the end of the reign of the Antichrist.

I don't know of any church father who believed in a pre-rapture, nor do I know anyone who believed in dispensationalism.

The term "caught up" is used half a dozen times, mostly by Paul, particularly in 1 TH 4:17. If we were reading a Latin Bible "caught up" would be translated "rapture"; but the doctrine of "the rapture", is totally a man made concoction.