The sheep and goat judgment of Matthew 25: The Progressive Dispensationalist view

[Marilyn C]

Are sheep/goats going to be literally judged "No" its a parable of the GWTJ spoken to herdsmen

It's standard knowledge and teaching throughout biblical studies that Matthew 25:31-46 is a parable

And the fulfillment is `one taken (as in the flood) and one left, `(on the earth to go into the millennium).

 

[Truth7t7]

And the fulfillment is `one taken (as in the flood) and one left, `(on the earth to go into the millennium).

Revelation 20:1-6 Isnt A Millennial Kingdom On This Earth, Dont Be Deceived​

Can you find the things claimed by those teaching a Literal 1,000 year Millennial Kingdom On This Earth in Revelation 20:1-6 below?

1.) Physical Earthly Kingdom?
2.) Physical Earthly Throne?
3.) Physical Mortal Humans?

The Above Claims (Don't Exist)

Revelation 20:1-6 Is 100% In The Lords (Spiritual) Angel, Heaven, Devil, Satan, The Souls, The Dead, God, Christ?

100% Spiritual Realm, No "Literal" Time

2 Peter 3:8KJV
8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.

Revelation 20:1-6KJV
1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
4 And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and I saw the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received his mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.
5 But the rest of the dead lived not again until the thousand years were finished. This is the first resurrection.
6 Blessed and holy is he that hath part in the first resurrection: on such the second death hath no power, but they shall be priests of God and of Christ, and shall reign with him a thousand years.

 

[Guojing]

Are sheep/goats going to be literally judged "No" its a parable of the GWTJ spoken to herdsmen

It's standard knowledge and teaching throughout biblical studies that Matthew 25:31-46 is a parable

Can you show any web links to "standard knowledge and teaching throughout biblical studies that Matthew 25:31-46 is a parable"?

 

[Truth7t7]

Can you show any web links to "standard knowledge and teaching throughout biblical studies that Matthew 25:31-46 is a parable"?

Standard knowledge, it's everywhere

 

[Truth7t7]

And the fulfillment is `one taken (as in the flood) and one left, `(on the earth to go into the millennium).

The (sheep/goat) is nothing more than a parable spoken to herdsmen, of the final Great White Throne Judgement seen in Revelation 20:11-15

As is clearly seen below, the parable concludes in the "final judgment" seen in verse 46 below (The End)

Matthew 25:46KJV
46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

 

[Guojing]

Standard knowledge, it's everywhere

Waiting for your weblink.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

We are caught up to meet the Lord in the air and be connected to our Head. If we went to heaven first, (by way of angels) then you would have part of the Body changed but not connected to the Head. The Body of Christ needs to be whole with the Head and then move to their appointed thrones.

You are just making things up. Can you acknowledge that? It's okay to just say "I don't know" sometimes. Your explanation here makes no sense whatsoever and does not answer the question of why we would need to meet the Lord in the air rather than meet Him in heaven if we just end up in heaven, anyway. Just admit that you don't know why that is the case instead of making things like this up.

 

[Spiritual Jew]

When someone, (God in this case) writes something earlier in their work then it has been explained and does not need to constantly writing the same words.

A witness, witnesses to what they have heard and or seen. Moses and Elijah are described as the two men, and they have witnessed on Christ telling them about His soon departure, (death) then seen His resurrection and ascension. God also has their bodies.

As I said, it doesn't really matter to me if the two "men" at His ascension were Moses and Elijah or were angels. But, to suggest they are the two witnesses seems to ignore some of the text relating to the two witnesses.

I asked you these questions which you did not answer: Please tell me how Moses and Elijah could be called two olive trees and two candlesticks. What do candlesticks represent elsewhere in the book of Revelation? Individual human beings or something else? What do olive trees represent in Romans 11? Individuals? Does it matter to you to interpret any given verse or passage in context? Does it matter to you that you have no explanation for how Moses and Elijah could be represented as two candlesticks or two olive trees? I assume you have no explanation, anyway, since you didn't answer my questions.

 

[Marilyn C]

You are just making things up. Can you acknowledge that? It's okay to just say "I don't know" sometimes. Your explanation here makes no sense whatsoever and does not answer the question of why we would need to meet the Lord in the air rather than meet Him in heaven if we just end up in heaven, anyway. Just admit that you don't know why that is the case instead of making things like this up.

I am not making things up. How would we get to glory if the Lord did not come for us. How would we go against gravity except the Lord`s great love would draw us to Himself to complete the Body of Christ and the Head.

 

[Marilyn C]

As I said, it doesn't really matter to me if the two "men" at His ascension were Moses and Elijah or were angels. But, to suggest they are the two witnesses seems to ignore some of the text relating to the two witnesses.

I asked you these questions which you did not answer: Please tell me how Moses and Elijah could be called two olive trees and two candlesticks. What do candlesticks represent elsewhere in the book of Revelation? Individual human beings or something else? What do olive trees represent in Romans 11? Individuals? Does it matter to you to interpret any given verse or passage in context? Does it matter to you that you have no explanation for how Moses and Elijah could be represented as two candlesticks or two olive trees? I assume you have no explanation, anyway, since you didn't answer my questions.

`These are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth.` (Zech. 4: 14)

 

[Spiritual Jew]

I am not making things up. How would we get to glory if the Lord did not come for us. How would we go against gravity except the Lord`s great love would draw us to Himself to complete the Body of Christ and the Head.

If you're not making that up, then show me some scripture which backs up what you're saying. And I'm talking about scripture which specifically talks about the reason that we would meet Him in the air rather than just meet Him in heaven. You are doing a lot of speculating, but do you have anything solid to back up your claim?

 

[Spiritual Jew]

`These are the two anointed ones, who stand beside the Lord of the whole earth.` (Zech. 4: 14)

Olive trees are referenced in Romans 11 as well. That should be ignored? And how do candlesticks, which elsewhere in the book represent churches, represent Moses and Elijah?

 

[Marilyn C]

If you're not making that up, then show me some scripture which backs up what you're saying. And I'm talking about scripture which specifically talks about the reason that we would meet Him in the air rather than just meet Him in heaven. You are doing a lot of speculating, but do you have anything solid to back up your claim?

`Beloved, now we are children of God; and it has not yet been revealed what we shall be, but we know THAT WHEN HE IS REVEALED, WE SHALL BE LIKE HIM, for we shall see Him as He is.` (1 John 3: 2)

So, when the Lord comes and reveals Himself to us, we shall be like Him - changed. And that occurs when we are caught up into the air to meet Him.

 

[Marilyn C]

Olive trees are referenced in Romans 11 as well. That should be ignored? And how do candlesticks, which elsewhere in the book represent churches, represent Moses and Elijah?

So, by that thinking every mention of a lion will be the Lord, or every mention of a lamb will be the Lord.

 

[Truth7t7]

So, by that thinking every mention of a lion will be the Lord, or every mention of a lamb will be the Lord.

I agree with your thought on the two witnesses, however I believe they will be Enoch/Elijah who never experienced death, Moses died and was buiried

 

[Truth7t7]

Waiting for your weblink.

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Parable of Sheep and Goats​

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Question: What does the parable of the sheep and the goats mean? Why will Jesus separate them? When and where did he give this teaching?

 

[Guojing]

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Parable of Sheep and Goats​

Biblestudy. org

Ask a Question! - Newsletter

Question: What does the parable of the sheep and the goats mean? Why will Jesus separate them? When and where did he give this teaching?

Do you understand what is a weblink?

 

[Marilyn C]

I agree with your thought on the two witnesses, however I believe they will be Enoch/Elijah who never experienced death, Moses died and was buiried

So, what can Enoch WITNESS, (have seen and heard) of Jesus?

As to Moses, remember that God has his body. (Jude 9)

 

[Truth7t7]

So, what can Enoch WITNESS, (have seen and heard) of Jesus?

As to Moses, remember that God has his body. (Jude 9)

It's appointed unto man once to die Hebrews 9:27, Enoch and Elijah haven't died physical death yet, my belief

 

[Marilyn C]

It's appointed unto man once to die Hebrews 9:27, Enoch and Elijah haven't died physical death yet, my belief

You haven`t answered the question -

So, what can Enoch WITNESS, (have seen and heard) of Jesus?

As to Moses, remember that God has his body. (Jude 9)

Mmmm what about Lazarus? He died twice. God appoints but then can also do His will even if that includes twice.