The problem of evil

[amariselle]

You don't use knowledge as a major basis for your life?

Not just scientific knowledge, no.

 

[amariselle]

Tell us about this "true and honest science".

What is the source of this science you speak of?

You mean, you don't know?

 

[amariselle]

Absolutely hilarious!

You make a claim that science states in absolute fact, how life originated and this is how you respond to support that claim???

You see, this is the part of the forum, where others will ask you to support your claims with evidence. If you can't support your claims, maybe this isn't the best part of the forum for you.

Ditto.

 

[amariselle]

I don't know how life originated.

I do know, with an extremely high level of confidence, how life evolved though.

If you don't know with absolute certainty how life originated, and you can't provide evidence for questions asked of you, maybe this part of the forum isn't for you. Isn't that just what you told me?

 

[amariselle]

You can base your life on whatever you choose.

The fact is, you rely on science each and every day, which you likely take for granted.

Actually I don't take it for granted, I put it in proper perspective. But thanks for telling me what I do or don't take for granted in life. I'm glad to hear you know me so well.

 

[amariselle]

Why should I accept what Paul claimed? He was just another man.

Why should you accept what scientists claim either then?

 

[SteveB28]

Why should you accept what scientists claim either then?

Because they back up their claims with this really inconvenient ingredient....EVIDENCE!

 

[SteveB28]

Not just scientific knowledge, no.

That's a nothing term. It's like saying 'knowledge knowledge'.

 

[amariselle]

That's a nothing term. It's like saying 'knowledge knowledge'.

Not at all. Or do you think the only knowledge that exists in life comes from science? Do you think also that science has all the answers we need? Pretty close-minded if that's the case.

 

[amariselle]

Because they back up their claims with this really inconvenient ingredient....EVIDENCE!

Ha ha, sure they do....

All the while they conveniently gloss over all the holes in their supposed evidence, so that they can, again conveniently, present their "evidence" as fact.

 

[SteveB28]

Not at all. Or do you think the only knowledge that exists in life comes from science? Do you think also that science has all the answers we need? Pretty close-minded if that's the case.

Again, you are asking if all knowledge comes from 'knowledge'. Just stop and think for a moment.

 

[SteveB28]

Ha ha, sure they do....

All the while they conveniently gloss over all the holes in their supposed evidence, so that they can, again conveniently, present their "evidence" as fact.

All the while? Some evidence of your own would be useful.

Or is this another of your examples of "Everyone says....."?

 

[Job8]

It seems to me the problem of evil is a real problem, and it is my main barrier to faith.

Then why have you identified yourself as a Christian? The problem of evil is temporary from God's perspective. The problem of obedience to the Gospel is a more serious issue for each one personally.

 

[amariselle]

Again, you are asking if all knowledge comes from 'knowledge'. Just stop and think for a moment.

I am asking no such thing. The terms "science" and "knowledge" are not synonymous. Science is the exploration of the world we live in. It is a field of study that attempts to gain knowledge about various things through study and experimentation, it is NOT knowledge itself.

You could say science is a potential path to knowledge, but it is not in and of itself knowledge.

 

[amariselle]

All the while? Some evidence of your own would be useful.

Or is this another of your examples of "Everyone says....."?

No, it is a fact that science does not have all of the answers it claims to have.

 

[SteveB28]

No, it is a fact that science does not have all of the answers it claims to have.

Please give an example of ANY issue wherein scientists claim to have "all the answers".

 

[bangmegafan]

You probably assume too much.

May be you too, some people have eyes but they can't see, have ears but they can't hear

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[SteveB28]

I am asking no such thing. The terms "science" and "knowledge" are not synonymous. Science is the exploration of the world we live in. It is a field of study that attempts to gain knowledge about various things through study and experimentation, it is NOT knowledge itself.

You could say science is a potential path to knowledge, but it is not in and of itself knowledge.

I would have thought that a religious person might understand a little Latin. Go and research the word 'science' and tell me what you find as its root.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

The Bible (the word of God) has plenty to say about God forming us in our mother's womb and knowing us before we are born. We are clearly persons before birth. Even science, which you hold to such an absolute worshipful standard, tells us that much.

The Bible (which you call "the word of god") also contains examples of abortion being performed (Numbers 5:27). I suppose now you'll say, as you did before, "Jesus NEVER said such things." Jesus never said anything about abortion, yet many Christians are against reproductive rights. Jesus never said anything about being gay, yet many Christians are against LGBT rights.

 

[Archaeopteryx]

I don't care what the article says, I care what the Bible says.

So do those who interpret it as justifying their hate.