I do not agree my friend. ...
No sense in calling me "friend" if you are not going to read my responses for what they say.
It was carried out by Vespasian, his son Titus and the Roman army.
Yep, not in disagreement, at all.
"THE PEOPLE OF THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME" refers to the Romans since this prince is to be distinguished from MESSIAH THE PRINCE of verse #25.
This is where you just 'added' your 'private interpretation' into the text itself. I used to basically believe the same as you, and the truth is not that far off from this position you presently have. So it is not so egregious, but simply a misunderstadning of the word 'prince' (nagiyd) here and the implication of "the people" thereof and why and how they brought destruction.
Dan 9:26 KJB - And after threescore and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself: and the people of the
prince that shall come shall destroy the city and the sanctuary; and the end thereof shall be with a flood, and unto the end of the war desolations are determined.
Dan 9:26 HOT - ואחרי השׁבעים שׁשׁים ושׁנים יכרת משׁיח ואין לו והעיר והקדשׁ ישׁחית עם
נגיד הבא וקצו בשׁטף ועד קץ מלחמה נחרצת שׁממות׃
Dan 9:26 HOT Str# - ואחריH310 השׁבעיםH7620 שׁשׁיםH8346 ושׁניםH8147 יכרתH3772 משׁיחH4899 ואיןH369 לו והעירH5892 והקדשׁH6944 ישׁחיתH7843 עםH5971
נגידH5057 הבאH935 וקצוH7093 בשׁטףH7858 ועדH5704 קץH7093 מלחמהH4421 נחרצתH2782
Dan 9:26 HOT translit. - w'achárëy haSHävuiym shiSHiym ûsh'nayim yiKärët mäshiyªch w'ëyn lô w'häiyr w'haQodesh yash'chiyt am
nägiyd haBä w'qiTZô vaSHe†ef w'ad qëtz mil'chämäh nechéretzet shomëmôt
Even if one does not read Hebrew (which is unnecessary), but simply the English, carefully, and with the bible in mind in other places, which shed light upon these events, we can know for certain, that the "prince that shall come" was indeed Jesus Christ. How can we know from the English (KJB)?
[1] in Daniel 9:25, Jesus is called "Messiah the
Prince" (משׁיח
נגיד;
משׁיחH4899
נגידH5057; mäshiyªch
nägiyd)
[2] in Daniel 9:26a, Jesus is again called "Messiah" (משׁיח; משׁיחH4899; mäshiyªch) and thus Daniel 9:26 is simply
enlarging upon Daniel 9:25's "
Messiah (a.) the Prince (b.)", when
vs 26 says, "
Messiah (a.) ...
the prince (b.) that shall come ..."; in other words "the ruler" that was prophesied to be sent by God to rule all (Isaiah 9:6,7; Micah 5:2; Matthew 2:6).
[3] the word
"prince" (
נגיד ;
נגידH5057;
nägiyd) is
only used for Jesus Christ the Messiah in all of Daniel, see Daniel 9:25,26, 11:22 ("prince of the covenant") as the anointed ruler thereof. Other examples in scripture of this are seen in
the anointed kings of Israel (see 1 Samuel 25:30; 2 Samuel 6:21, 7:8; 1 Kings 1:35, 14:7, 16:2; 1 Chronicles 5:2, 11:2, 17:7, 28:4, 29:22; 2 Chronicles 6:5, 11:22),
the anointed rulers of the priests (1 Chronicles 9:11,20, 12:27; 2 Chronicles 31:12,13, 35:8; Jeremiah 20:1; Nehemiah 11:11;
or those associated, 1 Chronicles 26:24, 27:4),
the leaders of the tribes of Israel (1 Chronicles 27:16),
generals/captians over others (1 Chronicles 13:1; 2 Chronicles 11:11; Psalms 76:12),
or as one like Job (Job 31:37). (There are a few
rare instances in scripture where the word can be used in a general sense for any ruler or captain over others (Job 29:10), even an opposing ruler/s, captians (see 2 Chronicles 23:21; Ezekiel 28:2), but the context is always clear in these instances; and it can mean a few other things in rare instances (Proverbs 8:6)).
[4] Gabriel and Daniel (Daniel 10:20), under guidance of the Holy Ghost, when refering to a foreign power and its leadership thereof, as a 'prince' (such as in the case of Grecia), another word is used instead, which is
(שׂר ;שׂר H8269; sar; which means 'ruler'), and thus the word,
"prince" (
נגיד ;
נגידH5057;
nägiyd)" in Daniel 9, in its own context and surrounding, is not a reference to the Roman ruler (Caesar) in Daniel 9, though the word "sar" can be applied.
[5] the entire context of Daniel 9 is
the Messiah and
His people,
[a.] Daniel 9:24a, "thy (Daniel's) people", the Israelites
[b.] Daniel 9:24b, "thy (Daniel's) holy city, earthly Jerusalem
[c.] Daniel 9:24c,d,e,f,g,h - dealing with the sins of the professed people of God and the ministration of the Great High Priest/Jesus and his work on earth and in Heaven.
[d.] Daniel 9:25a, "the commandment to restore and rebuild Jerusalem" (found in Ezra 6:14, 7:1-28)
[e.] Daniel 9:25b, "Messiah the Prince" - Jesus Christ
[f.] Daniel 9:26a, "Messiah" - Jesus Christ
[g.] Daniel 9:26b, "the people of the prince" - Israelites
[h.] Daniel 9:26b, "of the prince that shall come" - Jesus, being ruler over "the people" sent of God, that was to "come"
[i.] Daniel 9:26c, "the city and the sanctuary" - earthly Jerusalem
[j.] Daniel 9:27a, "And
he ..." - Jesus (Pronoun pointing back to a Noun, context, Messiah the Prince, Messiah ... the prince that shall come)
[k.] Daniel 9:27b "confirm the covenant with many for one week" - Jesus confirms the New Covenant with the Apostles (Hebrews 2:3) for the first half of the week (3 1/2 years unto AD 31, His death) and then confirms with the rest of the people through His Apostles, for 3 1/2 more years, unto the stoning of Stephen (AD 34) and the rejection of it by the Sanhedrin, as they had done to Jesus.
[l.] Daniel 9:27c, "
he shall cause the sacrifice and oblation to cease" - Jesus (Pronoun pointing back to the Noun, Messiah the Prince), did this by His death, and thus there are no more sacrifices for sins as Hebrews 10:26, etc, explains.
[m.] Daniel 9:27d, "
he shall make it (earthly sanctuary) desolate" - Jesus (Pronoun pointing back to a Noun) leaves and does not return to earthly Jerusalem, neither to the earthly temple ever again, see Matthew 23:38; Luke 13:35.
[6] there are
previous examples given to us in scripture, and Daniel himself experienced one of them.
[a.] In the first destruction of Jerusalm and its Temple by Babylon and King Nebuchadnezzar, this very King is used by God to punish rebellious Israel, because they (the people) had rejected God, and so God withdrew, and allowed the city/temple to be destroyed. What brought the destruction? Israel's sins. Nebuchadnezzar is even called by God, "my servant" (Jeremiah 25:9).
[b.] In the events of Moses and the Israelites attempting to cross over into the promised land. Balak and Balaam came along, and could do nothing to affect them, that is until the people sinned, and so God withdrew His protection, and allowed destruction to come.
There are numerous examples of this in scripture, see the book of Judges, etc.
Therefore, the same events repeated, as per Ecclesiastes 1:9, 3:15; in that when "the people" (of God) rejected the "Messiah the Prince", the "Messiah ... the prince that shall come" (as promsied by God), they actually destroyed their own city and temple, because they rejected the protection God offered in Christ Jesus. When Jesus said, "Your
house is left unto you
desolate", it was in exact fulfillment of Daniel as was the statement of Jesus in reference to the destruction (Matthew 23:36) that would be brought about by such rejection and refusal to repent of sin and accept Him, their Messiah, their rightful Prince.
Did the Roman armies actually destroy Jerusalem? Only in
after effect (as the Babylonians), for if the Jewish leadership had accepted the Messiah their prince, no such destruction could have come, for God would have dwelt in it, and its sanctuary.
The entire context of Daniel 9, is about God's people, sin, deliverance and the Messiah.
Who destroyed the city? God's own professed people by their neglect and refusal. Even as the human city/temple may so be destroyed:
1Co_3:17
If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy; for the temple of God is holy,
which temple ye are.
Mat_5:14
Ye are the light of the world.
A city that is set on an hill cannot be hid.
Therefore my friend, by correct exegesis and contextual understanding we can see that THE prince of verse #26 is the ANTICHRIST, and his people are the Roman people.
That is eisegesis. You added the words into the text. "Roman people" are not present, neither "antichrist".
In fact, the whole of Daniel 9 is about the Christ/Messiah and his people,
not antiChrist.
AntiChrist's "people" are not merely "Roman". The people of AntiChrist are of every nation, kindred, tribe, tongue and people.
It is vital to note that these events happened after the 1st 69 weeks of YEARS but still before the FINAL WEEK (7 Years) spoken of by Daniel in verse #27.
THAT final week (7 Years) is still future to us today and awaits the fulfillment of the events of verse 27.
Sorry, that is not congruent with the text itself, neither with Daniel 8:13,14,26; Revelation 9:15, 14:6-7; neither Hebrews 2:3; and is actually Jesuit Futurism -
The Catholic Origins of Futurism and Preterism
The 70 weeks are a smaller portion of the 2,300 day/years of Daniel 8:13,14,26. This is referred to in Daniel 9 itself.
Dan 9:21 Yea, whiles I was speaking in prayer, even the man
Gabriel, whom I had seen in the vision at the beginning, being caused to fly swiftly, touched me about the time of the evening oblation.
Dan 9:22 And he informed me, and talked with me, and said, O Daniel,
I am now come forth to give thee skill and
understanding.
The very "vision" that Daniel did not fully understand in Daniel 8:
Dan 8:1 In the third year of the reign of king Belshazzar
a vision appeared unto me, even unto me Daniel, after that which appeared unto me at the first.
Dan 8:15 And it came to pass, when I, even
I Daniel, had seen the vision, and
sought for the meaning, then, behold, there stood before me as the appearance of a man.
Dan 8:16 And I heard a man's voice between the banks of Ulai, which called, and said,
Gabriel,
make this man to understand the vision.
Dan 8:17 So he came near where I stood: and when
he came, I was afraid, and fell upon my face: but
he said unto me,
Understand, O son of man: for
at the time of the end shall be
the vision.
Dan 8:19 And he said, Behold,
I will make thee
know what shall be
in the last end of the indignation: for at
the time appointed the end shall be.
Dan 8:27 And
I Daniel fainted, and was sick certain days; afterward I rose up, and did the king's business; and
I was astonished at the vision, but none understood it.
Because Daniel could not take all of the information presented in Daniel 8, Gabriel came back in Daniel 9 (15 years later) to accomplish the mission given in Daniel 8 in regards the 2,300.
Then when we read verse 27 and see the words...……."AND HE", we can correctly understand that HE refers back to THE PRINCE THAT SHALL COME of verse #25.
No doubt at all about that, and no question or contention. However, I do not assume, as you do, that "he" and "prince" refers to a Roman Leader. The context does not does refer to Rome. It refers to Jerusalem and its "Messiah the Prince", even "Messiah ... the prince that shall come" and "the people" of that "prince" and their actions bringing destruction.
It predicts the coming of the Roman A/C during the 7 Year Tribulation period after the Rapture of the church.
Jesuit futuristic interpretation.
"HE" the A/C will "CONFIRM THE COVENANT WITH MANY FOR ONE WEEK (7 Years).
There is not a single place in all of scripture, and definitely not in the mouth of two or three witnesses therein, where "antiChrist" makes a covenant with anyone.
You have imagined that into the text, and I know for certain you did not get the idea on your own.