the name of Mohammad in the Old testament

[4x4toy]

Yes, he was the gate at that time for the Jews. There's no doubt about it, but he also said, John the Baptist was the last Prophet sent to the Jews, and other Prophets would appear, in particular one who would explain all things. Clearly a non Jewish Prophet was to come in the future. We know the Jews were expecting a Prophet like Moses pbuh to come, and Jesus pbuh wasn't him as John the Baptist confirmed.

And what did John say when he saw Jesus ?

 

[Muslim-UK]

Exactly and an adopted son inherits the same as the first born ..

Please show me from Torah, where adopted Son may inherit the throne of David.

 

[Muslim-UK]

And what did John say when he saw Jesus ?

He said lots of things, help me narrow down what you are looking for.

 

[4x4toy]

John 1:29-30

 

[Mediaeval]

Answer is C, no one soul carries the sin of another, GOD can choose to forgive, just like he has always done so.


Not lecturing, just pointing out the hypocrisy on your part.

Mark 10:25 It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” 26 And they were exceedingly astonished, and said to him, “Then who can be saved?” 27 Jesus looked at them and said, “With men it is impossible, but not with God; for all things are possible with God.”

God can forgive and admit into Heaven whom He wills out of His Compassion, Love and Mercy.

Abu Huraira reported: The Prophet, peace and blessings be upon him, said, “Allah had once forgiven a prostitute. She passed by a dog panting near a well. Seeing that thirst had nearly killed him, she took off her shoe, tied it to her scarf, and drew up some water. Allah forgave her for that.”

Source: Ṣaḥīḥ al-Bukhārī 3143, Ṣaḥīḥ Muslim 2245

2:284 To Allah belongs all that is in the heavens and on earth. Whether ye show what is in your minds or conceal it, Allah Calls you to account for it. He forgives whom He pleases, and punishes whom He pleases, for Allah hath power over all things.

You have avoided answering the same, simple question over and over, but your evasions--like those of Jehovah’s Witnesses when faced with the same question--speak clearly enough. For now I will torment you no further with the question. (Concerning your effort to mix in the separate issue of the atonement, it may interest you to know that many Christians, myself included, are not proponents of the penal substitution theory.) Let's reiterate, then, what we have seen. The love of Allah according to the Quran is limited and conditional, and He sits and watches while others sacrifice for Him. By contrast, the love of the God revealed in Jesus Christ is unlimited, unconditional, and self-sacrificial. Thus, Allah according to the Quran cannot show love in the highest form possible. Even mere creatures surpass this Allah when they show a higher, costlier form of love. But God according to the Bible demonstrates the highest form of love. He leads by example.

Therefore the conclusion of reason is incontrovertible: the Islamic concept of God is inferior, while the Biblical concept of God is superior. The Islamic Allah is not the greatest possible Being, for we can conceive of a still greater Being. However, the God revealed in Jesus Christ is the greatest possible Being. We can say with Anselm of Canterbury, “Credimus te esse aliquid quo nihil maius cogitari possit”—“We believe that You [God] are a being than which nothing greater can be conceived.” Eventually you too will see that no lesser concepts of God will satisfy the soul.

 

[4x4toy]

Please show me from Torah, where adopted Son may inherit the throne of David.

So you agree that Jesus was born of God through a virgin , you're making progress praise God ..

 

[Muslim-UK]

So you agree that Jesus was born of God through a virgin , you're making progress praise God ..

I can't believe you don't know the Islamic position on Jesus pbuh. Here's some basics Islam Guide: What Do Muslims Believe about Jesus?

 

[Muslim-UK]

John 1:29-30

Yes the higher Christology found in John, the least reliable source for information on the Historical Jesus. As I keep saying, he would have told all his followers, who he was and what he came to do, but we don't find this.

 

[Muslim-UK]

You have avoided answering the same, simple question over and over, but your evasions--like those of Jehovah’s Witnesses when faced with the same question--speak clearly enough. For now I will torment you no further with the question.

You give very limited options, when History shows another perfectly viable option.

(Concerning your effort to mix in the separate issue of the atonement, it may interest you to know that many Christians, myself included, are not proponents of the penal substitution theory.)

Ask 10 Christians and get 10 opinions! What is one to do?!
When addressing Christians I tend to think of the largest group, the ones who hold all the Scripture, the Roman Catholics.

Let's reiterate, then, what we have seen. The love of Allah according to the Quran is limited and conditional, and He sits and watches while others sacrifice for Him. By contrast, the love of the God revealed in Jesus Christ is unlimited, unconditional, and self-sacrificial. Thus, Allah according to the Quran cannot show love in the highest form possible. Even mere creatures surpass this Allah when they show a higher, costlier form of love. But God according to the Bible demonstrates the highest form of love. He leads by example.

Unconditional love? No it's not, it's very conditional, very specific too, accept Jesus pbuh died for your sins to have everlasting life. What's unconditional about that? Why will he return to kill all who oppose his 'unconditional' love?

You haven't thought this through very well I'm afraid.

Therefore the conclusion of reason is incontrovertible: the Islamic concept of God is inferior, while the Biblical concept of God is superior. The Islamic Allah is not the greatest possible Being, for we can conceive of a still greater Being. However, the God revealed in Jesus Christ is the greatest possible Being. We can say with Anselm of Canterbury, “Credimus te esse aliquid quo nihil maius cogitari possit”—“We believe that You [God] are a being than which nothing greater can be conceived.” Eventually you too will see that no lesser concepts of God will satisfy the soul.

Wages of sin = death...

The applause says it all.

 

[4x4toy]

Like I said in post #166 .. You would make a great born again Christian .. Jesus is God, the Word of God made flesh by the Holy Spirit of which we become born again through faith in Jesus acting in faith born of water and Spirit .. Come on in you're so close friend .

 

[benelchi]

the name of Mohammad in the Old testament:

plz watch this video


prophet Mohammad's mention in the bible:
What The Bible Says About Muhammad (PBUH)

No, the prophet Muhammad is not mentioned in the bible, this is simply made up garbage.

 

[Muslim-UK]

No, the prophet Muhammad is not mentioned in the bible, this is simply made up garbage.

The Bible is supposed to predict all major events throughout human History, yet says nothing of a man who is regarded as the most influential man in History? A man who has led Billions of followers to worship GOD alone, a man who came forth from Saudi Arabia, the very place where Moses pbuh received the 10 Commandments. Arabia which houses a place of worship that is open day and night for the remembrance of GOD.

Perhaps Christians don't find him because to do so would mean looking into a Religion that requires effort and sacrifice, not just mere belief in a instrument of torture allegedly used on a Jewish man who appeared 2,000 years ago.

Ask any professional in their field if they had to struggle and strive to get to where they are, and I'm sure they will catalogue years and years of study and hard work together with ups and downs to get to their goal, and that's of this World, the insignificant material World. People think to reach the Kingdom of GOD requires mere belief in a innocent man's shedding of blood. A mere walk in the park to obtain everlasting life...

And those who reject Our revelations as false and turn away from them in arrogance, they shall be the inmates of Hell; and there shall they abide (7:36)

 

[habibii zahra]

No.

The God of Jews and Christians is a loving God, a righteous God, a holy God, a forgiving God.

The God we worship is the creator of the universe. He is alive and well and very active in our lives. He is a triune God (Father, Son - Jesus -, and the Holy Spirit). Jesus is the son of God and no one comes unto the father except through him. No one.

our god is a beloved god a merciful god a forgiving god our god and yours is the same the one who created the whole universe why are you doubting this information??
in the Quran the god of Muslims is also the god of Christians and Jews..that is it

 

[habibii zahra]

No, the prophet Muhammad is not mentioned in the bible, this is simply made up garbage.

read the thread again you will see if he was mentioned or not...
this is the proof upon the mentioning of prophet Mohammad in the bible:
Prophet Muhammad in the Bible by Dr Naik

 

[Muslim-UK]

our god and yours is the same the one who created the whole universe why are you doubting this information??
in the Quran the god of Muslims is also the god of Christians and Jews..that is it

Not all but most of them deny it's the same God to justify why they choose not to obey Him. However, whether they like it or not, they ultimately return to Him.

 

[4x4toy]

Uh oh ..

 

[S.O.J.I.A.]

cool story bro!

 

[benelchi]

read the thread again you will see if he was mentioned or not...
this is the proof upon the mentioning of prophet Mohammad in the bible:
Prophet Muhammad in the Bible by Dr Naik

I have read the thread, and I have read your link. This is a gross example of eisegesis i.e. reading into the text that which you wish were there.

 

[Muslim-UK]

Uh oh ..

Revisionist clap trap and only remotely entertained if you ignore all the Islamic sources.

 

[Muslim-UK]

I have read the thread, and I have read your link. This is a gross example of eisegesis i.e. reading into the text that which you wish were there.

Sounds like what a Jew would say to a Evangelising Christian using a 'mis'translation of the Hebrew Torah.