The Great Replacement

[BPPLEE]

This phrase made me wince. Perhaps we could go with "low-income people in rural areas" or a similarly neutral wording.

Because all people who live in rural areas are low income and uneducated, right?

 

[BPPLEE]

Donny Deutsch: Democrats losing on economy, so we need to 'scare' voters against ‘racist’ GOP

Donny Deutsch: Democrats losing on economy, so we need to 'scare' voters against ‘racist’ GOP

Looks like they have taken his advice

 

[BPPLEE]

Or maybe they are dissatisfied with the Democrats for different reasons than you are.

Maybe they don't support illegal immigration as much as they are believed to

 

[PloverWing]

Because all people who live in rural areas are low income and uneducated, right?

Sigh, no, just the opposite. My daughter and her spouse and in-laws live in rural Vermont, where there is the same range of diversity in income, education, and culture that you'd see among human beings anywhere. That's why DragonFox91's phrasing caught my eye.

I'm trying to figure out what DragonFox91 meant by "rural hicks", and say that in a less offensive way. Did he mean low-income, or less-educated, or having a culture he doesn't approve of, or was it just a jab at all people in rural areas? I don't know, but surely there's a better way to say whatever-it-is.

@DragonFox91 , do you want to clarify here?

 

[BPPLEE]

Sigh, no, just the opposite. My daughter and her spouse and in-laws live in rural Vermont, where there is the same range of diversity in income, education, and culture that you'd see among human beings anywhere. That's why DragonFox91's phrasing caught my eye.

I'm trying to figure out what DragonFox91 meant by "rural hicks", and say that in a less offensive way. Did he mean low-income, or less-educated, or having a culture he doesn't approve of, or was it just a jab at all people in rural areas? I don't know, but surely there's a better way to say whatever-it-is.

@DragonFox91 , do you want to clarify here?

I meant to be sarcastic. Good question for@DragonFox91

 

[Ana the Ist]

It appears it was his focus to blow away as many black people as possible.

Yeah...which would be odd if he was concerned about the latinos crossing the border illegally (although he definitely seemed concerned about that). It's not like a large African population sneaks across the southern border.

Plus the manifesto has been scrubbed from the internet

 

[rturner76]

Yeah...which would be odd if he was concerned about the latinos crossing the border illegally (although he definitely seemed concerned about that). It's not like a large African population sneaks across the southern border.

Plus the manifesto has been scrubbed from the internet

The powers that be don't want some twisted group of people seeing him as a martyr and adopting his manifesto.

Is it the government censoring that or is it that social media companies are taking it off their sites.

 

[BPPLEE]

It appears it was his focus to blow away as many black people as possible.

Which has nothing to do with the replacement theory except in the shooter's warped mind

 

[rturner76]

Which has nothing to do with the replacement theory except in the shooter's warped mind

Apparently, he felt threatened by multiple races.

 

[BPPLEE]

Just out of curiosity....

Have you or anyone else read the whole 180 page manifesto?

I've no doubt that replacement theory is in there....but I'm doubtful it takes up 180 pages.

Yet, it appears this is the focus of the narrative surrounding the shooting.

Speaking of narratives I haven't seen any threads about the Texas shootings.

 

[Aldebaran]

Physician, heal thyself.

Again, I'm not the one who brought it up:

Or perhaps Hispanics don't vote as a group. Unlike white evangelicals, Hispanics have widely different interests.

Learn.

 

[Belk]

Again, I'm not the one who brought it up:


Learn.

Excuse me?

 

[Aldebaran]

Excuse me?

Right.
Read, understand, then learn.

Or keep ignoring, repeating the same erroneous accusations, and go in circles.

 

[Belk]

Right.
Read, understand, then learn.

Or keep ignoring, repeating the same erroneous accusations, and go in circles.

Are you trying to goad because it is coming across that way?

 

[Aldebaran]

Are you trying to goad because it is coming across that way?

You're the one who bolded the word "learn" in my post and said, "Excuse me?". That came across as you asking me to clarify what I said. I gave it a try, and followed it up with alternatives if you decide not to take my advice.

 

[mark46]

Speaking of narratives I haven't seen any threads about the Texas shootings.

What's to say?

An 18 year old waited until his birthday to legally purchase an automatic weapon and then walked into a school and murdered 21. There was a security officer on premise. A couple of police arrived quickly. The main police unit took over an hour to take down one kid with an automatic weapon. TX officials said that they were doing all they can. They suggested that more guns in the hands of teachers might have helped.

I AGREE. As long as TX has the laws encouraging kids and anyone with a grudge to purchase an automatic weapon, this will happen.

And it is 100% irrelevant that there are also killings in Northern cities.

The US is the only country in the world with the problem we have. All guns should be registered. All owners should have had their backgrounds checked. There should be a nationwide police data base with red-flags. All gun owners should pass a proficiency tests, similar to licensing the use of trucks or cars. And automatic weapons should be restricted to military or security personnel and perhaps shooting ranges.
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I understand that most Republicans strongly believe that civilians should have the right to carry unregistered automatic weapons into restaurants. This is an American distinctive and the deaths will continue and continue.

And, YES, the police should have MORE arms and more tools, including registries. The only caveat for me is that the police be well-trained and wear body cams at all times.

 

[BPPLEE]

What's to say?

A n 18 year old waiting until his birthday to legally purchase an automatic weapon and then walked into a school and murdered 21. There was a security officer on premise. A couple of police arrived quickly. The main police unit took over an hour to take down one kid with an automatic weapon. TX officials said that they were doing all they can. They suggested that more guns in the hands of teacheers might have helped.

I AGREE. As long as TX has the laws encouraging kids and anyone with a grudge to ourchase an automatic weapon, this will happen.

And it is 100% irrelevant that there are also killings in Northern cities.

The US is the only country in the world with the problem we have. All guns should be registered. All owners should have had their backgrounds checked. There should be a nationwide police data base with red-flags. All gun owners should pass a proficiency tests, similar to licensing the use of trucks or cars. And automatic weapons should be restricted to military or security personnel and perhaps shooting ranges.
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I understand that most Republicans strongly believe that civilians should have the right to carry unregistered automatic weapons into restaurants. This is an American distinctive and the deaths will continue and continue.

And, YES, the police should have MORE arms and more tools, including registries. The only caveat for me is that the police be well-trained and wear body cams at all times.

Other countries do have mass shootings, it's debatable what the best way is for tracking them Mass Shootings by Country 2022
Much of what you say makes sense but outlawing guns will not make the problem go away. Many drugs are illegal but you can buy them in any city in the US. It will be the same way if guns are outlawed. People who are determined to get them will still be able to. Republicans are now talking about working with Democrats so maybe some common sense measures will come out of this and not just trying to score political points
https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-brie...nnell-taps-cornyn-to-negotiate-with-democrats

 

[Ana the Ist]

It appears it was his focus to blow away as many black people as possible.

Yeah...which would be odd if he was concerned about the latinos crossing the border illegally (although he definitely seemed concerned about that). It's not like a large African population sneaks across the southern border.

Plus the manifesto has been scrubbed from the internet.

 

[Belk]

You're the one who bolded the word "learn" in my post and said, "Excuse me?". That came across as you asking me to clarify what I said. I gave it a try, and followed it up with alternatives if you decide not to take my advice.

Ok. Have a pleasant evening Aldebaran.

 

[Ana the Ist]

Speaking of narratives I haven't seen any threads about the Texas shootings.

Or the racist black man who planned and carried out the subway shooting.

Yet we'll certainly be seeing this in the media for weeks because he's white, the victims are black, and white supremacists must be generalized to the entire right wing political spectrum.