The Evolution of Civilization

[Zoii]

Australian aboriginal history goes back 60 000 years. It predates Moses and Abraham. Im just wondering how you think the aboriginal civilisation fits into your theories

 

[Aman777]

"The Neolithic witnessed some of the most profound transformations in human history: the inception and spread of agriculture and animal husbandry, permanent settlement in solid houses, growing populations around fixed locales, long-distance trade in raw material such as obsidian, craft specialization in lithic production, the beginnings of simple metallurgy, the use of pyrotechnology in the making of plaster and the production of ceramics, simple methods of marking ownership of objects and goods, and the construction of structures for sacred rituals. To be sure these—and no doubt many more invisible but equally significant developments—took place over a span of several thousand years, with variable emphases from region to region. Nevertheless, it is not too much to say that the foundations of what we consider to be basic attributes of our civilization were established during the Neolithic."

Amen. The neolithic is the time AFTER Noah arrived and brought Adam's superior intelligence to this planet of the common ancestor of Apes. Human civilization has been clearly demonstrated since the Ark arrived. God's word is the Truth in every way. God Bless you

 

[Aman777]

Australian aboriginal history goes back 60 000 years. It predates Moses and Abraham. Im just wondering how you think the aboriginal civilisation fits into your theories

Aboriginals were the sons of God (prehistoric people) until one of Noah's descendants showed up among them some 10k years ago, from Babel. The combination of Humans (descendants of Adam) AND prehistoric people is what made today's Humans, Gen 6:4 with Adam's intelligence AND the DNA of the common ancestor of Apes. Noah was the first Human to take a step on our Earth. God Bless you

 

[Zoii]

Aboriginals were the sons of God (prehistoric people) until one of Noah's descendants showed up among them some 10k years ago, from Babel. The combination of Humans (descendants of Adam) AND prehistoric people is what made today's Humans, Gen 6:4 with Adam's intelligence AND the DNA of the common ancestor of Apes. Noah was the first Human to take a step on our Earth. God Bless you

Ok I'll let you argue with our indigenous who would absolutely refute your "10K" comment. They can track through paintings, folklore, fossils and remains back 60 thousand years. If you refute their history Im going to leave you take it up with them and Australian archeologists.

Now what I dont get is I thought the bible said during Noah's flood, it destroyed all land and flight animals (not that I believe that). So how can Noah's descendants turn up amongst "prehistoric people.

Im also curious about this comment you made The combination of Humans (descendants of Adam) AND prehistoric people is what made humans today.
Is it your theory that aboriginals were not human per se until they mated with one of Noahs people?

And...where does Neanderthals Cromangnum, Java men ...where do they fit into all of this?

 

[Aman777]

Ok I'll let you argue with our indigenous who would absolutely refute your "10K" comment. They can track through paintings, folklore, fossils and remains back 60 thousand years. If you refute their history Im going to leave you take it up with them and Australian archeologists.

Ask them to tell you WHEN aboriginals changed from animal to Human intelligence, stopped roaming the Earth, planted crops and built towns and cities.

*** Now what I dont get is I thought the bible said during Noah's flood, it destroyed all land and flight animals (not that I believe that). So how can Noah's descendants turn up amongst "prehistoric people.

Humans were made on the first world, the world of Adam, which was totally destroyed in the flood. ll Peter 3:6 Adam's small Earth had only 4 Rivers, all from the SAME source, Gen 2:10 and its highest mountain was only 22.5 feet high. Gen 7:20 It was miles wide and made like metal stretched out overhead. Inside the first firmament/Heaven was Adam's Earth. The entire firmament was totally submerged in water, with water ABOVE and BELOW it. Gen 1:7 This means it was transportable since it was self-sufficient.

When God opened the windows on top of the firmament, it rained for forty days and the solid firmament began to fill with water. It took 40 days of rain for the firmament to fill enough to allow the 450 foot long Ark to leave the ground. Gen 7:17 On the 150th day after the rain began, the Ark was above the mountains on Adam's world Gen 7:20-24....AND....resting upon the mountains of Ararat on the present world, Gen 8:4 on the SAME 150th day after the flood began.

Noah's descendants were scattered all over the Earth from Babel and the 7.4 Billion living Humans (descendants of Adam) were produced by Noah's descendants AND the more than 1 Million sons of God (prehistoric people) who had been on Earth for Millions of years BEFORE the Ark arrived bringing Adam's superior intelligence to our Earth. NO bottleneck necessary. Gen 6:4

*** Im also curious about this comment you made The combination of Humans (descendants of Adam) AND prehistoric people is what made humans today.
Is it your theory that aboriginals were not human per se until they mated with one of Noahs people?

Sure, since aboriginals can be found for many thousands of years BEFORE the Ark arrived 11k years ago. The combination of prehistoric people (aboriginals) AND Humans (descendants of Adam) made the first Humans on Adam's Earth AND the 7.4 Billion Humans alive today on planet Earth. The entire story is told in Gen 6:1-4. I will be happy to show you this if you would like.

*** And...where does Neanderthals Cromangnum, Java men ...where do they fit into all of this?

They descended from the common ancestor of Apes who descended from the last universal common ancestor which appeared in WATER 3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time. God told us the same thing in Gen 1:21 more than 3k years ago. When Humans had children with prehistoric people, the descendants are today's Humans. God Bless you

 

[Desk trauma]

Ask them to tell you WHEN aboriginals... stopped roaming the Earth, planted crops and built towns and cities

They didn't. They were still largely nomadic hunter gatherer/ fire stick farmers at European contact.

What happened, did they get the dumb Noah kid?

 

[joshua 1 9]

I'd argue that disproves all those claims

Not when you think it through and come to a understanding of what I am saying. Of course I have been doing a study on this for over 50 years. So I have learned a little bit about the subject.

 

[joshua 1 9]

What happened, did they get the dumb Noah kid?

Science has a fairly good idea of how farming spread from the Middle East into Europe. Also the Botany of how plants in the middle east became domesticated is fairly well understood.

 

[joshua 1 9]

you also said that the Bible talks about how to cure leprosy.

I never said that and I never even said anything about leprosy. The discussion had to do with the Black Plague during the Dark Ages.

 

[Desk trauma]

Science has a fairly good idea of how farming spread from the Middle East into Europe. Also the Botany of how plants in the middle east became domesticated is fairly well understood.

Response unrelated to post.

 

[joshua 1 9]

civil engineering

all I said was you can not have a city without civil engineering.

"Studying BEng Civil Engineering at City, University of London equips students with the skills in design, construction, management and sustainability required for a successful future in the construction industry." Civil Engineering (BEng)

What does a civil engineer do?

Civil engineers design, build, supervise, operate, and maintain construction projects and systems in the public and private sector, including roads, buildings, airports, tunnels, dams, bridges, and systems for water supply and sewage treatment.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

I never said that and I never even said anything about leprosy. The discussion had to do with the Black Plague during the Dark Ages.

Okay, so we'll stop talking about leprosy, but you still need to talk about how the Bible gave instructions on how to stop the spread of the Black Plague. Because I have gone through all of the pages and all the posts in this thread, and you have given NOTHING to support your claim that the Bible had instructions on how to the stop the spread of the Black Plague.

 

[joshua 1 9]

Response unrelated to post.

Advances in agriculture is important because there would be no need for a city if you did not have the means to grow the food to feed the people.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

all I said was you can not have a city without civil engineering.

"Studying BEng Civil Engineering at City, University of London equips students with the skills in design, construction, management and sustainability required for a successful future in the construction industry." Civil Engineering (BEng)

What does a civil engineer do?

Civil engineers design, build, supervise, operate, and maintain construction projects and systems in the public and private sector, including roads, buildings, airports, tunnels, dams, bridges, and systems for water supply and sewage treatment.

You said, in post #12, "You can not have a city without civil engineering. That is why they had the Black Plague is because they did not follow the Civil laws given to us by Moses."
And yet London, during the spread of the Black Death in the 1300s (which is NOT THE DARK AGES, it's the EARLY Medieval Period) was a city.

 

[Desk trauma]

Advances in agriculture is important because there would be no need for a city if you did not have the means to grow the food to feed the people.

Still unrelated to the post you quoted but do go on.

 

[joshua 1 9]

NOTHING to support your claim that the Bible had instructions on how to the stop the spread of the Black Plague.

IF you do a google search there are many web pages that talk about the Black Plague and the Sanitary laws in the Bible. That is why I brought this up because so many web sites on the internet do a adequate job of explaining this to people who are interested in learning.

black plague and the sanatiry laws in the Bible - Google Search

God gives each and every individual a choice: Life or Death, Sickness or Health, Blessing or Curse, Poverty or Prosperity. The way to death and destruction is considered an easy way to go. The way to life, health, blessing and prosperity is considered to be difficult and requires some effort. Everyone has to make their choice. No one can make that choice for them.

 

[Petros2015]

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

IF you do a google search there are many web pages that talk about the Black Plague and the Sanitary laws in the Bible. That is why I brought this up because so many web sites on the internet do a adequate job of explaining this to people who are interested in learning.

black plague and the sanatiry laws in the Bible - Google Search

And all of those links only point to the simplest thing that is talked about in the Bible and by all ancient peoples: quarantining the diseased to stop the spread of their disease. Nothing in them talks about how anything from the Bible could have stopped the spread of the Black Plague.

 

[joshua 1 9]

You said, in post #12, "You can not have a city without civil engineering. That is why they had the Black Plague is because they did not follow the Civil laws given to us by Moses."
And yet London, during the spread of the Black Death in the 1300s (which is NOT THE DARK AGES, it's the EARLY Medieval Period) was a city.

This is all very simple and you're trying to make it complicated. Follow the Bible and you will have life, health, blessings and prosperity. IF you do not follow the Bible you will have plagues, sickness, death, destruction and poverty. Each and every individual has to make that choice. The Black Plague in London was a result of the people in London NOT following the Teaching of Moses in the Bible. Each and every individual has to make that choice for themselves.

 

[Warden_of_the_Storm]

This is all very simple and you're trying to make it complicated. Follow the Bible and you will have life, health, blessings and prosperity. IF you do not follow the Bible you will have plagues, sickness, death, destruction and poverty. Each and every individual has to make that choice. The Black Plague in London was a result of the people in London NOT following the Teaching of Moses in the Bible. Each and every individual has to make that choice for themselves.

Joshua, I have to ask one simple question: why do you keep trying to link civil engineering to the Teachings of Moses? Before the 1800s, absolutely ZERO cities in Europe, the Middle East and Asia followed a plan of any sort of engineering. In fact, the only groups that actually planned out their cities were the Pagan Romans and the Pagan Egyptians.
So why do you keep trying to link civil engineering to the Teachings of Moses?