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The Elven-speaking thread
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jochanaan said:So how does it go?
Átaremme i ëa han ëa
na aire esselya
aranielya na tuluva
na care indómelya
cemende tambe Erumande :
ámen anta sira ilaurëa massamma
ar ámen apsene úcaremmar
sív emme apsenet tien i úcarer emmen.
Álame tulya úsahtíenna
mal áme etelehta ulcullo
násie
I found it here: http://www.kevinsymonds.com/elfpray.html
They have the Hail Mary and some others as well... Anyone know what the heck Sub Tuum Praesidium is?
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Indeed. Isn't it amazing how much more impressively beautiful things sound in Quenya?Lycana said:
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Umm... *Blushes* The version of the prayer I found and learned is not, apparently, how Tolkien himself translated it. I will take Tolkien's version over anyone else's, and so I have edited that post to the true translation.
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Not to offend, but of course Tolkien's would sound better, because he created the language and thus was the first master of it. Who knows? Some of the stuff floating around online these days claiming to be Elven is just plain junk.
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Oh, do I ever know that! Don't even get me started on the "Elvish" created by the Gray Company. I looked at it once, and even had memorized the numbers through 12 at one point, but after seeing actual Elvish again I realized how awful it is. Of course all the LoTR badfic writers adore it and sprinkle it into their fics wherever they can, but I try to stamp it out wherever I find it. Forgive me for digressing but I cannot stand badfics, especially when they claim to be based on a series I know and love.morvaltur said:
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Oy ve, I know exactly what you mean. I did the same exact thing, and I thought, "cool, now I know some Elven." And then a friend of mine who does Elvish linguistics showed me how wrong I was by going through and totally correcting the, as we call it, "Grelven" dictionary. Now, I have no problem with people speaking it, as long as they acknowledge that it is not true Elven. Master Ravion, for example, knows some Grelven, and I accept that, but if he were to claim that it was actual Tolkien Elvish, I would have to dispute it.tindomerel said:
Grelven is strange. It is a mixture of Quenya, Sindarin, and some made-up stuff with a little bit of homemade/Quenya/Sindarin grammar in it. Some of it is good, other stuff, bad. I could go on for hours about it, and maybe I will sometime, but not now, since I doubt anyone here wants to hear me rant. Even if it is about Elven languages.
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Ah. I thought it was something like that. The thought doesn't bear contemplation.tindomerel said:
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Sounds like a great idea. We could use hours just ranting!tindomerel said:*Laughs* I'll let you rant about Grelven if you let me rant about badfics loosely based on Lord of the Rings
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My fellow Elven speakers, linguistics, and interested parties.
I have completed another poem in Elven, but have decided to have some fun with it.
If you all want, I shall post the Elven version of the poem here, in this forum. The first one to translate it into English and PM me a correct translation shall win. Just a little competition amongst friends. I know that not all of you are expert translators, but give it a shot. I am not rich in CF blessings, but I will give the winner 25 CF blessings. I apologize that it is not alot, but perhaps I will increase it.
What say all of you? Would you like to give it a shot?
I have completed another poem in Elven, but have decided to have some fun with it.
If you all want, I shall post the Elven version of the poem here, in this forum. The first one to translate it into English and PM me a correct translation shall win. Just a little competition amongst friends. I know that not all of you are expert translators, but give it a shot. I am not rich in CF blessings, but I will give the winner 25 CF blessings. I apologize that it is not alot, but perhaps I will increase it.
What say all of you? Would you like to give it a shot?
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