The Elven-speaking thread

[Lubiana]

Those kzinti sound cool! I love cats.

 

[morvaltur]

I love cats, too. I shall have to look into that.

Yeah, Ardalambion is one of the best places for Quenya lessons. I used their wordlists all of the time. They are quite reliable.

 

[Lubiana]

They come up with new words sometimes too.

 

[morvaltur]

True, and the good thing about their word creation is that it is grammatically correct with Tolkien's writings.

 

[Lycana]

Hi all! Here is a translation of Quenya I found and I was wondering if you think it is correct.

Ilya sa malta umë mirilya,
Lá ilquen i ranyar vanwë nar;
I enwina ya tulca umë hesta,
Tumnë sulcar umir rahtaner nixenen.
I astollo náre eccuituva,
Cálë i fuinillon tuiva;
Envinyanta nauva i maica ya rácina,
I úrie ata nauva aran.

All that is gold does not glitter,
Not all those who wander are lost;
The old that is strong does not wither,
Deep roots are not reached by the frost.
From the ashes a fire shall be woken,
A light from the shadows shall spring;
Renewed shall be the blade that is broken,
The crownless again shall be king.

 

[glitch]

what was tha from? it refers to aragorn i know that.

 

[morvaltur]

From where did you acquire this?

 

[Lycana]

from the web page that Lubiana told us about. LEAF- Learning Elvish Among Friends. The poem is of course, from Tolkien's books.

 

[morvaltur]

Of course. I believe it is correct, though it may not be of the full evolution of Quenya that is used today.

 

[Lycana]

Would you change anything to make it more up to date?

 

[morvaltur]

Possibly. I will have to look at it later.
Would anyone like to hear a poem in Queny?

 

[Lycana]

I would LOVE to!

 

[Lubiana]

I would to! Thanks for adding me as your buddy Mor!

 

[morvaltur]

No problem, Lubiana.

Sorry it took me so long. I had to go and get it from another computer.

(Quenya)

Arwa Tyë



Nan valin arwa tyë;

Nan senda arwa tyë.

Haryan lá caurë arwa tyë;

Haryan calassë arwa tyë.

Lá nan vanwa arwa tyë;

Hirnen ëalanya arwa tyë.

Lertan melë arwa tyë.

Lertan quetë anwa arwa tyë.

Tenyan cuina arwa tyë.

Tenyan varna arwa tyë;

Lá hossë lertar tulë pá nyë-

Arwa tyë.





(English)

With You



With you I am happy;

With you I am at peace.

With you I have no fear;

With you I have brilliance.

With you I am not lost;

With you I have found my being.

With you I can love.

With you I can speak true.

With you I feel alive.

With you I feel safe;

No army can come against me-

With you.

 

[Lubiana]

Wow! That was wonderful! Can you help me with some of the words- I am just so rusty! So is "arwa" new? I kind of remember a different way of saying "with" wasn't it some kind of ending?

 

[Lubiana]

Haryan lá caurë arwa tyë - is "harya" to have? I can't remember. Could you also say Nan lá caurë arwa tyë ? I am without fear with you? Sorry for all the questions.

 

[morvaltur]

"Arwa" is actually used here as "with." Yes, there is a prepositional ending, but I decided to go with the independent word for more of an emphasis. Same reasoning for choosing "tyë" over "te" for "you" - it is more poetic sounding and works.

As for the third line, yes I could have said that, but I wanted to make it [fear] sound like more of an object, as though it could be taken away by the circumstances. "Harya-" does stand for "to have."

No problem about the questions, that is why I started the thread. Hopefully, I will have another Quenya poem finished by New Year's Eve. I know that seems like a long time, but it takes a long time to write in a language that is not your first or second. Plus, I am balancing working on this poem with writing other poems and a screenplay.

 

[Lubiana]

Wow, you are really busy then! Thanks for answering all my questions, I'm starting to remember the language more as I read your poem! If I write a short poem, would you help me translate it?

 

[Lubiana]

What is your screenplay about?

 

[Lycana]

OOOO, awesome poem Morvaltur! VERY cool! I actually have a poem that I translated with the help of friends a long time ago. I'll have to dig it up and post it here. Thanks for adding me to your buddy list by the way.