The Book of Revelation

[BABerean2]

I am just laughing profusely at how you you managed to put your foot in your mouth from watching the video you linked and the comments you wrote. Do you understand what Carl Callups said in the video? The video is less than 8 minutes long and 3 times in the video Carl said God raptures the church out of the way before He pours out His wrath. Do you not understand Carl is telling you there's no post-trib rapture.

Do you understand Carl refuted the post-trib rapture 3 times in the video. Again Carl said God raptures the church out and than pours out His wrath. How do you not understand Carl is telling you there's no post-trib rapture.

You should change your stance on the rapture to pan-trib because nothing you do is panning out the way you want.

And he's not post-trib either. A person who believes the church getting raptured just before God pours out His wrath holds a pre-wrath rapture view. You can't even find a video from a post-tribber to refute anything.

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[Douggg]

Sorry Douggg but this I wrong. You left out the first half of the tribulation and clumped everything that happens during the first half into the second half. In other words, your version of the tribulation is only 3.5 years.

I don't use the term "tribulation" because it is not a bible term for the 7 years, and if the second half is the time of Jacob's troubles - then how can the Jews during the first half, most of it at least, they will be saying peace and safety, before sudden destruction comes up on them?

If they are saying peace and safety, they cannot be in tribulation. And the question is why are they saying peace and safety? It will be because they will think they have entered the messianic age - but it will be a false messianic age.

If you use the term 70th week - instead of tribulation - we would have common grounds for communicating. And if you use "first half" and "second half" instead of 3.5 years or 3 1/2 years - it would help as well.

The reason being is that the 42 months and the time, times, half times are not exactly 3 1/2 years in length.

It is not a case of converting months to days. 1260 days is exactly half of the 7 years (2520 days)yes, but the 42 months is a little less (by 3 1/2 days). And the time, times, half times is a little less than the 42 months (because of the amount of earth time that passes for the war in heaven).

Day 1 the confirming of the covenant
Day 1185 the AOD setup to be worshipped
Day 1260 the two witnesses are killed.

Exact middle of the 7 years

Day 1263.5 the two witnesses ascend to heaven, leaving 1256.5 days in the 7 years which the beast will rule unimpeded by the two witnesses. The 1256.5 days is termed 42 months in Revelation 13.

When two witnesses ascend to heaven, day 1263.5 there is the earthquake, followed by the 7th trumpet, which begins the process of the kingdoms of this world becoming the Kingdoms of God and His Christ. The first act in that process is the war in heaven, and Satan cast down.

So from day 1263.5 to the casting down of Satan, there is an unspecified amount of time that passes, leaving an unspecified amount of time left in the 7 years - called a time, times, half times.

So neither the 42 months, nor the time, times, half times are exactly
3 1/2 years. It is best to refer those as being the second half.

 

[Douggg]

But those words; mega thiplis, simply refer to the just previous event, the terrible worldwide disaster of the Sixth Seal.
They cannot refer to the 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls, as the scroll is not yet unrolled until after the Seventh Seal time gap.

Jesus is removing the seal as everyone is watching. What time gap?

 

[Riberra]

Nowhere does Rev 7 say that either the 144,000

I am not saying that the 144,000 are martyrs ...I said that their sealing happen during the 6Th Seal ....not long after the Great Worldwide Earthquake of the 6Th seal [Revelation 6:12-17 happen and normal panic reaction ] >then the Sealing of the 144,000 Revelation 7.

or the Vast Multitude of people from every nation and language, are martyrs

The great multitude is seen BEFORE the THRONE OF GOD and OF THE LAMB Revelation 7:9...AT THAT MOMENT JESUS IS STILL IN HEAVEN
Revelation 7:9
9 After this I beheld, and, lo, a great multitude, which no man could number, of all nations, and kindreds, and people, and tongues, stood before the throne, and before the Lamb, clothed with white robes, and palms in their hands; 10 And cried with a loud voice, saying, Salvation to our God which sitteth upon the throne, and unto the Lamb.


...No man has ascendeth to Heaven but the ONE who comes from Heaven ...Only the SOULS OF THE BELIEVERS who died MARTYRS [OR FROM NATURAL DEATH] GOES TO HEAVEN....

The martyrs souls are brought back when Jesus Returns.

Which prove that their SOULS are in Heaven --the First Resurrection of Revelation 20:4-6 is Reverved to the SAINTS ... the Christians who die MARTYRS for their FAITH IN JESUS will be part of the SAINTS
[ with the OT PROPHETS,the OT PATRIARCHS,THE 12 APOSTLES WHO ARE THOSE SEEN ON THRONES -who will judge the twelve tribes of Israel -]

They are just living people who have survived the terrible Sixth Seal DoL event.

Millions will die but Billions will survive not Just Christians...the captains , the kings ..ECT ,are there still alive...[Revelation 6:15-17]

They have survived because they took heed of what we are plainly told to do on that Day of worldwide disaster:
1/ Stand firm in our faith, 1 Peter 4:12, Revelation 3:10
2/ Call upon the Name of the Lord, Joel 2:32, Acts 2:21
3/ Take shelter, Isaiah 26:20-21, Jeremiah 6:25

That is what they [the captains ,The Kings,Presidents the Rich men ]will do, they have already the best shelters than everyone of us...they are prepared for a nuclear war as well as a terrible geoglogical event or cosmic event of apocalyptic proportion !They know about it and are prepare for it...
They have a plan to reorganise the WORLD into TEN KINGDOMS ..after such catastrophic events

The 7 Trumpets and 7 Bowls of the Great Tribulation do not commence until the Anti-Christ desecrates the Temple. 2 Thess 2:4 Which cannot happen for at least 7+ years after the Sixth Seal.

-We heard about the BEAST taking power for 42 months only in Revelation 13

-While that the 4 First Trumpets are mentioned to sounds in Revelation 8 at the opening of the 7 TH SEAL.

 

[keras]

Jesus is removing the seal as everyone is watching. What time gap?

Yes; Jesus has removed the first five Seals. Proved by all the wars, famines and plagues we have experienced since He Ascended to heaven. We await the Sixth Seal Day of the Lord's wrath, just as follows from Jesus quote of Isaiah 63:1-2a...the Day of vengeance of our God.

Revelation 8:1 The Lamb removed the Seventh Seal and there was silence for about a half hour in heaven.
About a half hour in heaven. Is heavenly time the same as the earth? Does heaven orbit the sun? NO; and two witnesses tell the formula for earth to heaven time; Psalms 90:4 & 2 Peter 3:8
Therefore the equivalent of 1/48th of a day in heaven equals 20.8 years on earth. But scripture says 'about', so from the Seventh Seal until the Return, could be from 15 to 25 years. Not less and not more.

 

[keras]

The great multitude is seen BEFORE the THRONE OF GOD and OF THE LAMB Revelation 7:9...AT THAT MOMENT JESUS IS STILL IN HEAVEN

Riberra, we do agree on most things and I appreciate your faithful persistence in presenting the Bible truth.
Sadly though, you add to scripture in your assertion above. Nowhere in Revelation chapter 7, is heaven mentioned. That chapter sets a earthly scene in the first 3 verses and the location is never changed. That has to be implied or assumed by thinking that God's Throne is in some far distant place, but God and His Throne are just in another dimension and CAN be see from or on earth, if God wills it. Proved by Ezekiel 1:1 and Acts 8:56 Also 2 Thessalonians 1:10 says that Jesus will be revealed to His own, soon after His Day of fiery wrath.
The vast multitude of people are all living humans, all the true righteous Christians, gathered into all of the holy Land, as is so comprehensively prophesied throughout the Bible. Zechariah 10:8-10, Psalms 68:7-10 + +

 

[Riberra]

Riberra, we do agree on most things and I appreciate your faithful persistence in presenting the Bible truth.
Sadly though, you add to scripture in your assertion above. Nowhere in Revelation chapter 7, is heaven mentioned.

Revelation 7:1 begins with the mention "And after these things" these things are the events of the 6 TH Seal which said that they SAW JESUS SITTING ON HIS THRONE ....after that the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; Revelation 6:14
Revelation 6:16
And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

That chapter sets a earthly scene in the first 3 verses and the location is never changed.

Jesus was seen on His Throne [in the other dimension] after that the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; Revelation 6:14

That has to be implied or assumed by thinking that God's Throne is in some far distant place, but God and His Throne are just in another dimension and CAN be see from or on earth, if God wills it. Proved by Ezekiel 1:1 and Acts 8:56

Seem to be the same situation at the 6Th seal [only a vision of what is on the other side /other dimension /THIRD Heaven ]...OR this time because the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together .-

Also 2 Thessalonians 1:10 says that Jesus will be revealed to His own, soon after His Day of fiery wrath.

2 Thessalonians 1:10 is about the Second Coming Of Jesus in Glory in the Clouds .THE PAROUSIA when Jesus will appear in Glory with His Saints...Enoch also prophesied that the LORD will descend from Heaven with ten thousands of His Saints.

2 Thessalonians 1:10
10 When he shall come to be glorified in his SAINTS, and to be admired in all them that believe (because our testimony among you was believed) in that day.

The survivors believers -alive and remain/UNTO the Coming of Jesus in Glory in the Clouds with His Saints/ who have not worshiped the Beast nor taken the Mark will be caught up in the clouds in the air ....while Jesus will destroy the sinners [those with the Mark of the Beast]who will be assembled at Armageddon along with the World Armies [Revelation 16:14-16]
Revelation 16:14-16
14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the KINGS of the earth AND OF THE WHOLE WORLD,

to gather THEM to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.

16 And he gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon.

 

[BABerean2]

In Matthew 24:15 Jesus stated that the great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is setup to be worshiped.

Mat 24:15　 "Therefore when you see the 'ABOMINATION OF DESOLATION,' spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place" (whoever reads, let him understand),　
(Read about the festival of Hanukkah in John 10:22 to see what the Jews of Jesus time understood about the "Abomination of Desolation" by Antiochus Epiphanes during 167 BC, which had been predicted by the Book of Daniel.)

Luk 21:20　 "But when you see Jerusalem surrounded by armies, then know that its desolation is near.　



Mat 24:16　 "then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.
　
Luk 21:21　 Then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains, let those who are in the midst of her depart, and let not those who are in the country enter her.　

The verse above reveals that Matthew 24:15 and Luke 21:20 are referring to the same event.

Luk 21:22　 For these are the days of vengeance, that all things which are written may be fulfilled.　
Luk 21:23　 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! For there will be great distress in the land and wrath upon this people.　
Luk 21:24　 And they will fall by the edge of the sword, and be led away captive into all nations. And Jerusalem will be trampled by Gentiles until the times of the Gentiles are fulfilled.　
(The first part of this verse occurred during 70 AD.)


If we compare Luke's Gospel to that of Matthew, we can clearly see that Matthew 24:15 is referring to the events of 70 AD.

During 167 BC an army under the command of Antiochus Epiphanes attacked the city of Jerusalem killing thousands of Jews and defiled the temple by setting up a statue in the temple and having a pig slaughtered on the altar.
The Jews of Jesus time understood what He was talking about in Matthew 24:15, because they celebrated Hanukkah every year.

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[keras]

Revelation 6:16
And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne, and from the wrath of the Lamb:

This quote does not say that anyone will actually see Him, as they will at Jesus' Return. So it is another event, years before that.

Jesus was seen on His Throne [in the other dimension] after that the heaven departed as a scroll when it is rolled together; Revelation 6:14

You are getting the heavens mixed up. The heavens that roll up like a scroll, is our earths atmosphere.

2 Thessalonians 1:10 is about the Second Coming Of Jesus in Glory in the Clouds .THE PAROUSIA when Jesus will appear in Glory with His Saints...Enoch also prophesied that the LORD will descend from Heaven with ten thousands of His Saints.

No it isn't the Return. It plainly says that He is revealed to His own, not to the world. Proved by Revelation 14:1 He also allows the leader of the new nation of Beulah approach Him. Jeremiah 30:21
Why do you not like the idea, as prophesied many times, of all of God's righteous people going to live in the holy Land? I have plenty of scriptural proofs that this will happen.

 

[Douggg]

During 167 BC an army under the command of Antiochus Epiphanes attacked the city of Jerusalem killing thousands of Jews and defiled the temple by setting up a statue in the temple and having a pig slaughtered on the altar.
The Jews of Jesus time understood what He was talking about in Matthew 24:15, because they celebrated Hanukkah every year.

So do we know the same thing - a statue of zeus - which Antiochus believed he was Zeus in human form.
What they didn't have at the time of Matthew 24:15 is the book of Revelation which the image of the beast - the Abomination of Desolation comes to life and speaks, which did not happen with Antiochus's statue. So what ever the Romans did in 70AD was not the Abomiation of Desolation of Matthew 24:15.

The Daniel 12 Abomination of Desolation is end times, and is the image of the beast forthcoming.

 

[BABerean2]

So do we know the same thing - a statue of zeus - which Antiochus believed he was Zeus in human form.
What they didn't have at the time of Matthew 24:15 is the book of Revelation which the image of the beast - the Abomination of Desolation comes to life and speaks, which did not happen with Antiochus's statue. So what ever the Romans did in 70AD was not the Abomiation of Desolation of Matthew 24:15.

The Daniel 12 Abomination of Desolation is end times, and is the image of the beast forthcoming.

Either Luke 21:20-24 is correct or you are correct.
Both cannot be true.

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[Riberra]

This quote does not say that anyone will actually see Him, as they will at Jesus' Return. So it is another event, years before that.

Nowhere i said this is the same event...
-At the 6th seal they fear HIM WHO SIT ON THE THRONE [Revelation 6:16], whatever the sentence means that they really see Him sitting on His Throne in the Third Heaven or not....

-While At His Coming AFTER THE TRIBULATION everybody wil see Jesus Coming in Glory in the Clouds.

The heavens that roll up like a scroll, is our earths atmosphere.

Exactly what i used to think also,
However from past discussions there is a member who mentioned that this could be the SECOND HEAVEN WITH THE STARS that will be rolled up like a scroll because of the mention that they fear Him that sit on the Throne ...which i find an interesting point of view.

No it isn't the Return. It plainly says that He is revealed to His own, not to the world. Proved by Revelation 14:1

In Revelation 14:1 Jesus is still in Heaven ...as proved by
Revelation 14:13-16 Jesus is in Heaven preparing His sickle to reap the SOULS of those that will be beheaded by the Beast mentioned in Revelation 14:9-12
Revelation 14:13-16
13 And I heard a voice from heaven saying unto me, Write, Blessed are the dead which die in the Lord from henceforth: Yea, saith the Spirit, that they may rest from their labours; and their works do follow them.

14 And I looked, and behold a white cloud, and upon the cloud one sat like unto the Son of man, having on his head a golden crown, and in his hand a sharp sickle.

15 And another angel came out of the temple, crying with a loud voice to him that sat on the cloud, Thrust in thy sickle, and reap: for the time is come for thee to reap; for the harvest of the earth is ripe.

16 And he that sat on the cloud thrust in his sickle on the earth; and the earth was reaped.

He also allows the leader of the new nation of Beulah approach Him. Jeremiah 30:21
Why do you not like the idea, as prophesied many times, of all of God's righteous people going to live in the holy Land? I have plenty of scriptural proofs that this will happen.

all of God's righteous people going to live in the holy Land will happen after the gathering mentioned in Matthew 24:29-31 which is AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days.

 

[Douggg]

Either Luke 21:20-24 is correct or you are correct.
Both cannot be true.

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Luke 21:20-24 is correct. As is Daniel 12. As is Revelation 13. I am also correct on this particular issue.

You are not correct because there is nothing in the history of the temple that fulfills Revelation 13, the image that comes to life and speaks.

You are misunderstanding Luke 21:24, Jerusalem trodden down until the times of the gentiles ends - which brings us to our generation. Verse 25 forward is end times.

You have not been faced with that the image must speak and come to life - so new impossible to overcome reasoning why you are wrong. AOD of Matthew 24:15 is end times.

 

[Matthew Twentyfour]

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You have a sick mind if you think this is funny. Hitler got millions of Germans kill during the war. He also killed millions of others and slaughter millions of Jews for what, a discrepancy over the timing of the rapture?

 

[jgr]

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Thanks BAB2; I've never had this many guffaws in less than 4 minutes before.

 

[keras]

In Revelation 14:1 Jesus is still in Heaven ...as proved by
Revelation 14:13-16 Jesus is in Heaven preparing His sickle to reap the SOULS of those that will be beheaded by the Beast mentioned in Revelation 14:9-12

You are ignoring the fact that Jesus is, at present, a spiritual Being. He can and does appear to people on earth, He did to Paul on the Damascus road and He has to many, who have cried out to Him. I know someone personally that Jesus appeared to.

all of God's righteous people going to live in the holy Land will happen after the gathering mentioned in Matthew 24:29-31 which is AFTER THE TRIBULATION of those days.

No, many prophesies make it plain that the great gathering of all those who stood firm in their faith during the terrible Day of wrath, will live in all of the holy Land before the Return. Read Ezekiel 34:11-31, Isaiah 35:1-10, Jeremiah 31:1-40, + Also Psalms 107 describes the gathering, quite different from what happens in Matthew 24:31, at the Return.
Romans 9:24-26.....and it shall come to pass in the same place where it was said to them, they will be called the Sons of the Living God.
['them' - ethnic Israel, 'they' - true Christian believers]

 

[Riberra]

You are ignoring the fact that Jesus is, at present, a spiritual Being. He can and does appear to people on earth, He did to Paul on the Damascus road and He has to many, who have cried out to Him. I know someone personally that Jesus appeared to.

What is the purpose of the 144,000 sealed from the TWELVE TRIBES OF ISRAEL mentioned in Revelation 7?

Read carefully the details given in Revelation 14:4-5
These [144,000]were REDEEMED from among men, BEING the FIRSTFRUIT unto God and to the Lamb.

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault BEFORE THE THRONE OF GOD.

Do you think that is referring to Jesus spiritually appearing standing on Mount Sion here on the Earth or rather that this scene mentioned in Revelation 14:1-5 is about the 144,000 redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.
who have been translated like Enoch and taken to Heaven before the Throne of God after the sealing [remember that -the mount Sion- can refers to Heaven sometimes [Hebrews 12:22]?


Revelation 14
1 And I looked, and, lo, a Lamb stood on the mount Sion, and with him an hundred forty and four thousand, having his Father's name written in their foreheads.

2 And I heard a voice from heaven, as the voice of many waters, and as the voice of a great thunder: and I heard the voice of harpers harping with their harps: 3 And they sung as it were a new song before the throne, and before the four beasts, and the elders: and no man could learn that song but the hundred and forty and four thousand, which were redeemed from the earth.

4 These are they which were not defiled with women; for they are virgins. These are they which follow the Lamb whithersoever he goeth. These were redeemed from among men, being the firstfruits unto God and to the Lamb.

5 And in their mouth was found no guile: for they are without fault before the throne of God.

-In Revelation 7, the 144,000 are sealed by an angel here on the Earth.

-In Revelation 14, the 144,000 are with Jesus in Heaven singing a new sound before the Throne and before the FOUR BEASTS.. Revelation 14:3

 

[Matthew Twentyfour]

Thanks BAB2; I've never had this many guffaws in less than 4 minutes before.

Boy, this really infuriated me. I don't think I can get any sleep now without constantly thinking about it.

 

[Matthew Twentyfour]

Joh 19:30　 When Jesus therefore had received the vinegar, he said, It is finished: and he bowed his head, and gave up the ghost.　

We were talking about the temple, not the vinegar Jesus drank off of a sponge.

Ezra 5:16New King James Version (NKJV)
Then the same Sheshbazzar came and laid the foundation of the house of God which is in Jerusalem; but from that time even until now it has been under construction, and it is not finished.”

 

[Matthew Twentyfour]

In the KJV, the words "great tribulation" are in Revelation 7:14.

I already said that Douggg. This is the third time in the last two days you're repeating the things I wrote.

The word great tribulation is only mentioned 3 times found in the new testament: Matthew 24:21, Revelation 2:22, Revelation 7:14.

Now look at this also. The word great tribulation is only mentioned 3 times found in the new testament: Matthew 24:21, Revelation 2:22, Revelation 7:14. Read it carefully and all the surrounding verses, there's nothing in the word great tribulation pointing to a 3.5 year period. Under scrutiny, you can see the author is writing about Daniel's 70th week, not the second half of the week.

Actually, I have not been using the term 3 1/2 years or 3.5 years.

It's called the Time of Jacob's trouble. That's the only place in the entire bible that gives the second half of the 70th week a name.

All other terms the bible uses: Tribulation, Great Tribulation, Wrath and Daniel's 70th week are all synonmously refers to the final 7 years before the second coming.

Only man breaks down the first half calling it the tribulation and the second half the great tribulation. Jesus did not call the second half of the 70th week the great tribulation and I can prove it. In fact, He refuted it being called the great tribulation.

The great tribulation in Revelation 7:14 is not 7 years in length.

Yep! This was exactly the verse I felt why you don't see a first half of the 70th week in the book of Revelation. Since the words "great tribulation" was used, you think the great multitude was raptured into heaven during the second half of the 70th week. You eliminated the first half of the tribulation from the book of Revelation Douggg.

In Matthew 24:15 Jesus stated that the great tribulation begins when the abomination of desolation is setup to be worshiped.

No He's not telling you the 2nd half is called the great tribulation. Jesus was telling us there will be a time of great tribulation.

What if Jesus had said there will be a time of great distress instead? Or a time of great anguish? They all mean the same thing. There's also a possibility the word was translated differently ending up with the word tribulation in the english version of the bible.

But Jesus was not calling the second half of the tribulation by name to be called the great tribulation. He's just telling us it's a time of great distress on earth.

And I can prove this, later.

Matthew 24:15-22New King James Version (NKJV)
15 “Therefore when you see the ‘abomination of desolation,’ spoken of by Daniel the prophet, standing in the holy place” (whoever reads, let him understand), 16 “then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains.17 Let him who is on the housetop not go down to take anything out of his house. 18 And let him who is in the field not go back to get his clothes. 19 But woe to those who are pregnant and to those who are nursing babies in those days! 20 And pray that your flight may not be in winter or on the Sabbath. 21 For then there will be great tribulation, such as has not been since the beginning of the world until this time, no, nor ever shall be. 22 And unless those days were shortened, no flesh would be saved; but for the elect’s sake those days will be shortened.

From Daniel 12:7 the worst time in Israel's history lasts a time, times, half times. That is the second half of the seventh week.

Well Douggg, Daniel's prophecy is about Israel, not the church. So of course the worst time in Israel is the length a time, times and half a time. This doesn't prove anything.

Now if Daniel had actually wrote a prophecy about the church during the final 7 years, it would be a time, times, times and times in length.

I don't use the term "tribulation" because it is not a bible term for the 7 years, and if the second half is the time of Jacob's troubles - then how can the Jews during the first half, most of it at least, they will be saying peace and safety, before sudden destruction comes up on them?

If they are saying peace and safety, they cannot be in tribulation. And the question is why are they saying peace and safety? It will be because they will think they have entered the messianic age - but it will be a false messianic age.

This is wrong Douggg. The bible mentions peace and safety in the new testament. The prophecies in the NT is about the church. The prophecies in the OT is about Israel.

And look where the words "peace and safety" is found. It's written by Paul in 1st Thessalonians 4-5. This is the scripture by Paul on the rapture of the church. The rapture is for the church. It has nothing to do with Israel.

You're confusing what Paul wrote "peace and safety" and connecting it to the middle of the tribulation when the a/c invades Israel. This is totally not correct. Paul wasn't writing about Israel in 1st Thessalonians 4 and 5.





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In the entire bible, old and new, many terms has been used to describe the final 7 years before Christ's return. The bible calls the final 7 years the tribulation, the great tribulation, the time of God's wrath and Daniel's 70th week.They all mean the same thing, the final 7 years.

Only in the old testament is there one name given for the second half of the 70th week, the bible calls the Time of Jacob's trouble.

It's purely man-made separating the first half calling it the tribulation and calling the second half the great tribulation. The bible does NOT do that.

The words great tribulation is only mentioned 3 times in the entire bible, you can easily check and see none of the writers used the words great tribulation to refer to the second half. None.

The word tribulation in the King James is mentioned 25 times and 32 times in the NKJV. Most of verses are even prophecies of the end times. A few that are uses the word tribulation in reference to Daniel's 70th week, the final 7 years. Not the first half. Here's the proof.

Matthew 24:29King James Version (KJV)
Immediately after the tribulation of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:

Now everyone knows this scripture refers to the end of Daniel's 70th week when Christ returns at the second coming.

Look what Matthew wrote. He said immediately after the tribulation. This includes the second half of Daniel's 70th week. Now if the bible actually does separate the first half as the tribulation and the second half as the great tribulation, shouldn't Matthew had written "immediately after the great tribuiation" instead?

It's the same thing in Mark 13:24. He wrote that Jesus comes immediately after the tribulation, not after the great tribulation. You know why? It's because they are all giving an account of what they heard from Jesus during the olivet discourse. Meaning that Jesus called the final 7 years before His return the Tribulation, not the Great Tribulation.