The Book of Revelation

[1stcenturylady]

Since the word "sleep" is found in 1 Thessalonians 5:10, how do you separate 1 Thessalonians chapter 5 from chapter 4?

1Th 4:13　 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope.　

1Th 4:14　 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him.　

1Th 4:15　 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep.
　
1Th 4:16　 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:　

1Th 4:17　 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.　

1Th 4:18　 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.　

1Th 5:1　 But of the times and the seasons, brethren, ye have no need that I write unto you.　

1Th 5:2　 For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night.　

1Th 5:3　 For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape.　

1Th 5:4　 But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief.
　
1Th 5:5　 Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness.　

1Th 5:6　 Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober.
　
1Th 5:7　 For they that sleep sleep in the night; and they that be drunken are drunken in the night.
　
1Th 5:8　 But let us, who are of the day, be sober, putting on the breastplate of faith and love; and for an helmet, the hope of salvation.　

1Th 5:9　 For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ,　

1Th 5:10　 Who died for us, that, whether we wake or sleep, we should live together with him.


The verse above connects chapter 5 to chapter 4.
Therefore, the timing of the resurrection event in chapter 4 occurs on the Day of the Lord, when He comes as a thief.

I know you do not believe in the pretrib doctrine, but the following is related to our conversation.

　

Jesus only comes as a THIEF to those who are not watching. In other words, the unsaved.

 

[Revealing Times]

The Day of Christ/Lord [Lord Jesus Coming to establish His millennial Kingdom on the Earth] won't come Until a DEPARTING from the Faith (APOSTASY) happen in the Church......[The believers will in great number quit their faith when the troubles times will begin.]

...and then the man of sin be revealaled.

2 Thessalonians 2 is the DEPARTING of the Church............

 

[keras]

All the effects of the massive CME that we know the Lord will send from His storehouse the sun, Deuteronomy 32:34-35, Isaiah 30:26, will literally fulfil everything prophesied about the Day of the Lord's wrath. The microwave effects will penetrate to the depths of the mountains, Deuteronomy 32:22, causing tectonic plate shift.

The light flash, Isaiah 30:26, and all the wave spectrum from microwaves to long wave, will strike the earth 8 minutes after ejection. They will heat up the earths crust and cause the great earthquake. Then the sun will be darkened; by the approaching mass of superheated hydrogen plasma and the moon will glow blood red from the reflected flash and also from the thermite reaction when the plasma hits it.
The stars in the 'orianos' our upper atmosphere; our many satellites, will be forced to crash back to earth. Our Atmosphere will be parted and blasted aside, at the point of impact and the tectonic plate movement will relocate the mountains and islands.
It Will happen, despite anyones dislike of the idea! Either believe it or discount everything in the Bible. Why believe in salvation and not prophecy?

 

[Riberra]

It Will happen, despite anyones dislike of the idea! Either believe it or discount everything in the Bible. Why believe in salvation and not prophecy?

It [2 Peter 3:1-12] will happen one day in a still unknown time in the future ,,,but not the way and timeline that you interpret it [not a CME/ not at the 6th Seal]!!!

-The folly of Interpreters has been, to foretell times and things by this Prophecy, as if God designed to make them Prophets. By this rashness they have not only exposed themselves, but brought the Prophecy also into contempt. The design of God was much otherwise. He gave this and the Prophecies of the Old Testament, not to gratify mens curiosities by enabling them to foreknow things, but that after they were fulfilled they might be interpreted by the event, and his own Providence, not the Interpreters, be then manifested thereby to the world.-

 

[BABerean2]

Jesus only comes as a THIEF to those who are not watching. In other words, the unsaved.

Are you saying that the beginning of chapter 5 of 1 Thessalonians, has nothing to do with the end of chapter 4?

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[1stcenturylady]

Are you saying that the beginning of chapter 5 of 1 Thessalonians, has nothing to do with the end of chapter 4?

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As I said, those who that day will come upon as a thief in the night are the unsaved.

1 Thessalonians 5:4 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.

 

[BABerean2]

As I said, those who that day will come upon as a thief in the night are the unsaved.

1 Thessalonians 5:4 4 But you, brethren, are not in darkness, so that this Day should overtake you as a thief.

The same is true of the parable of the wheat and tares from Matthew chapter 13.

Mat 13:24　 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:　

Mat 13:25　 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.　

Mat 13:26　 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
　
Mat 13:27　 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
　
Mat 13:28　 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?　

Mat 13:29　 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
　
Mat 13:30　 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.　



Mat 13:36　 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.　

Mat 13:37　 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
　
Mat 13:38　 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;　

Mat 13:39　 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.　

Mat 13:40　 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.　

Mat 13:41　 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;　

Mat 13:42　 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
　
Mat 13:43　 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.　

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[1stcenturylady]

The same is true of the parable of the wheat and tares from Matthew chapter 13.

Mat 13:24　 Another parable put he forth unto them, saying, The kingdom of heaven is likened unto a man which sowed good seed in his field:　

Mat 13:25　 But while men slept, his enemy came and sowed tares among the wheat, and went his way.　

Mat 13:26　 But when the blade was sprung up, and brought forth fruit, then appeared the tares also.
　
Mat 13:27　 So the servants of the householder came and said unto him, Sir, didst not thou sow good seed in thy field? from whence then hath it tares?
　
Mat 13:28　 He said unto them, An enemy hath done this. The servants said unto him, Wilt thou then that we go and gather them up?　

Mat 13:29　 But he said, Nay; lest while ye gather up the tares, ye root up also the wheat with them.
　
Mat 13:30　 Let both grow together until the harvest: and in the time of harvest I will say to the reapers, Gather ye together first the tares, and bind them in bundles to burn them: but gather the wheat into my barn.　



Mat 13:36　 Then Jesus sent the multitude away, and went into the house: and his disciples came unto him, saying, Declare unto us the parable of the tares of the field.　

Mat 13:37　 He answered and said unto them, He that soweth the good seed is the Son of man;
　
Mat 13:38　 The field is the world; the good seed are the children of the kingdom; but the tares are the children of the wicked one;　

Mat 13:39　 The enemy that sowed them is the devil; the harvest is the end of the world; and the reapers are the angels.　

Mat 13:40　 As therefore the tares are gathered and burned in the fire; so shall it be in the end of this world.　

Mat 13:41　 The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity;　

Mat 13:42　 And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth.
　
Mat 13:43　 Then shall the righteous shine forth as the sun in the kingdom of their Father. Who hath ears to hear, let him hear.　

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Finally, someone to talk to who cares what the Word of God says and is approved, who obviously studies and it not a scoffer.

 

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