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I decide to make this it's own post since I have seen so many questions about this and didn't want to be bouncing everywhere to try and answer them. This is a conversation that requires vigilance, and study. My post is not a quick read through, more like a bible study. Even tho I will do my best to outline my stance, however, independent study will be required. First I would like to build the premises, and an understanding of what I believe to be biblical truth. There is FAR too much to put into a post that I can hope will actually get read; so I will try to be concise as possible. But I fear a lot will just scroll through or just ignore this.
The 10 toes found in Daniel 2:31-45
In Daniel chapter 7, even more detail is given about these beasts. The highlight are what are going to be focused on. The first was like a lion. The second like a bear, and the third like a leopard. And a fourth beast the had great iron teeth. These also represent the kingdoms, or nations of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Keep in mind in the time that Revelations was written Rome was ruling.
Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Interesting.... The beast in Revelation is made up form parts of the beasts in Daniel. This meant, the described beast, would have the most vile characteristics of the 3 beasts before it.
So if you scroll up and re-read Rev 31:1 again, you will see that this is the same beast having 7 heads, and 10 horns, and Daniel 7 still applies. You will also notice in Rev 17: that a woman sits upon a beast. So in biblical prophecy what is a woman? What is a beast?
Let's take a look....
OK, well let's go back to Daniel 7.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
So this establishes that a beast is a kingdom, or nation. This is stating that a woman is going to be part of, or joining a nation. Also we need to understand that this nation will be diverse, or completely different from any other nation in the world. So now what is a woman in prophecy?
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.
2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
So the church of Christ is presented as Christ's bride. (woman) This is how we come to the knowledge that a woman in prophecy is a church.
So what we are looking for is a church that becomes/joins a sovereign nation. The Vatican city is the only church in the world that is a sovereign nation. (diverse) Not just a religion, it is a recognized nation, and the Pope is it's geopolitical leader, not unlike any other President, ruler, or Prime minister. This is the only church ever that has become a nation, and is not a nation, that just has a church. The religion itself is the authority.
Lets rehash Dan 7:23 posted above. Also as written above this fourth King has to have subdued 3 kings. As established, The Heruli, The Vandals, and The Ostrogoths were subdued by the papacy. (This is one of those times some independent research is required if you doubt the validity to the papacy's involvement to the fulfillment of this prophecy)
Now let's look at Rev 13:1 and we will see this beast has 7 heads... well what does that mean? We find that in:
Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. So we have 7 mountains, or hills the church nation sits upon.
The ancient city of Rome was originally built on the topographical layout of seven separate hills. These seven hills were joined together by the ancient walls of Rome- the Servian walls. The Seven Hills of Rome lie in the east to the Tiber River. Later many more areas were annexed to the city. The city walls were extended to include them also and the city is now much bigger than its original territory. The Vatican and Vatican hill are included in the Areas that were added to the city much later in history.
The seven hills are, namely:
The Quirinal Hill
The Aventine Hill
The Caelian Hill
The Viminal Hill
The Capitoline Hill
The Esquiline Hill
The Palatine Hill
http://www.vatican.com/articles/rome/the_seven_hills_of_rome-a4131
Now in Rev 13 we have even greater detail that proves yet again the beast is the Vatican.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
This points to the downfall of the papacy in 1798 when Napoleon marched in under the command of General Berthier, and captured the Pope bringing him to France. This completely brought to an end a sovereign church nation, when a secular government was established. A mortal wound to the Vatican.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
In prophecy a day= a year. Numbers 14:34, Ezekiel 4:6.
A biblical month =30 days, so the prophetic equation is 42 X 30 = 1260 years. (also see Dan 7:25, and Rev 12:6 to confirm the 1260 years)
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
1798 AD – 538 AD = 1260 years fulfilling Rev 13:7 by the timeline presented in Rev 13:5. And again, the Vatican fits the criteria to fulfill this prophecy.
So here we have the beast: The Vatican.
I believe a pope will be antichrist.
I can get into further detail later but consider this. Every single official name of the Popes office equals 666. Sit down with Roman numerals and count it up yourselves by using the Latin terms.
VICARIVS FILII DEI: VICAR OF THE SON OF GOD.
V I C A R I V S
5+ 1 +100 +0 +0 +1 +5 +0= 112
F I L I I
0 +1 +50 +1 +1= 53
D E I
500 +0 +1= 501
112+53+501=666
The 10 toes found in Daniel 2:31-45
- The Saxons (English).
- The Franks (French)
- The Alamanni (Germanic)
- The Visigoths (Spain)
- The Suevi (Portuguese)
- The Lombards (Italian)
- The Burgundians (Swiss)
- The Heruli (Extinct: 439 AD)
- The Vandals (Extinct: 534 AD)
- The Ostrogoths (Extinct: 538 AD)
In Daniel chapter 7, even more detail is given about these beasts. The highlight are what are going to be focused on. The first was like a lion. The second like a bear, and the third like a leopard. And a fourth beast the had great iron teeth. These also represent the kingdoms, or nations of Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, and Rome. Keep in mind in the time that Revelations was written Rome was ruling.
Rev 13:1 And I stood upon the sand of the sea, and saw a beast rise up out of the sea, having seven heads and ten horns, and upon his horns ten crowns, and upon his heads the name of blasphemy.
Rev 13:2 And the beast which I saw was like unto a leopard, and his feet were as the feet of a bear, and his mouth as the mouth of a lion: and the dragon gave him his power, and his seat, and great authority.
Interesting.... The beast in Revelation is made up form parts of the beasts in Daniel. This meant, the described beast, would have the most vile characteristics of the 3 beasts before it.
- The leopard. Greece.
- The bear. Medo-Persia.
- The lion. Babylon. It is interesting to note that this beast has the mouth of a lion since King Nebuchadnezzar was the first to force the speech of blasphemy, and the worship of a false idol.
So if you scroll up and re-read Rev 31:1 again, you will see that this is the same beast having 7 heads, and 10 horns, and Daniel 7 still applies. You will also notice in Rev 17: that a woman sits upon a beast. So in biblical prophecy what is a woman? What is a beast?
Let's take a look....
OK, well let's go back to Daniel 7.
Dan 7:3 And four great beasts came up from the sea, diverse one from another.
Dan 7:17 These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.
Dan 7:23 Thus he said, The fourth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon earth, which shall be diverse from all kingdoms, and shall devour the whole earth, and shall tread it down, and break it in pieces.
So this establishes that a beast is a kingdom, or nation. This is stating that a woman is going to be part of, or joining a nation. Also we need to understand that this nation will be diverse, or completely different from any other nation in the world. So now what is a woman in prophecy?
Jer 6:2 I have likened the daughter of Zion to a comely and delicate woman.
2Co 11:2 For I am jealous over you with godly jealousy: for I have espoused you to one husband, that I may present you as a chaste virgin to Christ.
So the church of Christ is presented as Christ's bride. (woman) This is how we come to the knowledge that a woman in prophecy is a church.
So what we are looking for is a church that becomes/joins a sovereign nation. The Vatican city is the only church in the world that is a sovereign nation. (diverse) Not just a religion, it is a recognized nation, and the Pope is it's geopolitical leader, not unlike any other President, ruler, or Prime minister. This is the only church ever that has become a nation, and is not a nation, that just has a church. The religion itself is the authority.
Lets rehash Dan 7:23 posted above. Also as written above this fourth King has to have subdued 3 kings. As established, The Heruli, The Vandals, and The Ostrogoths were subdued by the papacy. (This is one of those times some independent research is required if you doubt the validity to the papacy's involvement to the fulfillment of this prophecy)
Now let's look at Rev 13:1 and we will see this beast has 7 heads... well what does that mean? We find that in:
Rev 17:9 And here is the mind which hath wisdom. The seven heads are seven mountains, on which the woman sitteth. So we have 7 mountains, or hills the church nation sits upon.
The ancient city of Rome was originally built on the topographical layout of seven separate hills. These seven hills were joined together by the ancient walls of Rome- the Servian walls. The Seven Hills of Rome lie in the east to the Tiber River. Later many more areas were annexed to the city. The city walls were extended to include them also and the city is now much bigger than its original territory. The Vatican and Vatican hill are included in the Areas that were added to the city much later in history.
The seven hills are, namely:
The Quirinal Hill
The Aventine Hill
The Caelian Hill
The Viminal Hill
The Capitoline Hill
The Esquiline Hill
The Palatine Hill
http://www.vatican.com/articles/rome/the_seven_hills_of_rome-a4131
Now in Rev 13 we have even greater detail that proves yet again the beast is the Vatican.
Rev 13:3 And I saw one of his heads as it were wounded to death; and his deadly wound was healed: and all the world wondered after the beast.
This points to the downfall of the papacy in 1798 when Napoleon marched in under the command of General Berthier, and captured the Pope bringing him to France. This completely brought to an end a sovereign church nation, when a secular government was established. A mortal wound to the Vatican.
Rev 17:8 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
- Was: this beast will have been in power at one time.
- The Vatican became a church nation, when Vigilus ascended the Papal chair in 538 AD under the military protection of Belisarius. -History of the Christian Church,vol 3, pg 327.
- Is not: this beast will lose it's power. The wounded head 1798.
- Yet is: This beast regains its power. July 7, 1929 the Pope regains authority from Italy. Lateran Concordat of 1929 - Papal Wound Healed! ROME, Feb. 11.--The Pope is again an independent sovereign ruler, as he was throughout the Middle Ages, though his temporal realm, established today, is the most microscopic independent State in the world, and probably the smallest in all history. — THE NEW YORK TIMES, Tuesday, February 12, 1929. It is amazing to read how excited the world was that the Papacy's wound was healed. They were amazed, and so happy to see it "restored to health" just like Rev 13:3.
- Was a church nation 538-1798
- Is not a church nation 1798-1929
- Yet is a church nation 1929-current day
Rev 13:5 And there was given unto him a mouth speaking great things and blasphemies; and power was given unto him to continue forty and two months.
In prophecy a day= a year. Numbers 14:34, Ezekiel 4:6.
A biblical month =30 days, so the prophetic equation is 42 X 30 = 1260 years. (also see Dan 7:25, and Rev 12:6 to confirm the 1260 years)
Rev 13:6 And he opened his mouth in blasphemy against God, to blaspheme his name, and his tabernacle, and them that dwell in heaven.
Rev 13:7 And it was given unto him to make war with the saints, and to overcome them: and power was given him over all kindreds, and tongues, and nations.
1798 AD – 538 AD = 1260 years fulfilling Rev 13:7 by the timeline presented in Rev 13:5. And again, the Vatican fits the criteria to fulfill this prophecy.
So here we have the beast: The Vatican.
I believe a pope will be antichrist.
I can get into further detail later but consider this. Every single official name of the Popes office equals 666. Sit down with Roman numerals and count it up yourselves by using the Latin terms.
VICARIVS FILII DEI: VICAR OF THE SON OF GOD.
V I C A R I V S
5+ 1 +100 +0 +0 +1 +5 +0= 112
F I L I I
0 +1 +50 +1 +1= 53
D E I
500 +0 +1= 501
112+53+501=666
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