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The 10 Commandments are done away!

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He did, remember ever reading where Jesus told us to keep His commandments just as He kept His Father's commandments. Remember Jesus giving the new commandment to love others as I have loved you


Jesus and his followers observed the whole law of Moses. There were 613 laws that Israel was obligated to follow. Jesus fulfilled the 613 laws by keeping them all and He fulfilled the sacrificial laws by becoming the sacrifice for all mankind. The old covenant with its 613 laws are history. The 10 were part of the now defunct covenant. God will never allow the Jews to ever rebuild the Temple. it would be useless, Jesus is our final sacrifice. All the observing all you old covenant do is for naught and you are denying the the new covenant of Jesus.
You answer to God for believing that. The ten commandments are the moral laws of God. You should read them and remember what they tell you as concerns behavior. And on those are all the laws hinged, because all of the ten commandments pertain to love for one another and love for God.
Defunct? Not hardly.
When Jesus was asked what commands should we keep he responded and repeated the nine commandments. The Sabbath was a given as Jesus and the Disciples observed the Sabbath, but in a new way because Jesus demonstrated he and his Disciples worked on the Sabbath. Jesus was the Lord of the Sabbath. Meaning, he was the same God that gave us the Sabbath and told us to keep it holy.
And Jesus was that same God who in his new covenant ministry taught that the Sabbath was made for us!
Jesus never took the Sabbath from us. He was the sacrifice that reminded us every day of the sacredness of God and his mercy and life. And one day a week we can honor God and rest from the world in him.

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May God have mercy.
 
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I take it this post is so self-evident that it need not be debated. The real question is why is there such confusion on this issue, with the clear evidence that refutes the 10 commandments are still valid.

Where did God, or Christ ever say any of the law was done away with?

Where does Christ, or God say this, especially about the 10 commandments that were so pivotal the hand of God Himself wrote them on stone (to survive forever)?

If anyone can show me where 1)Christ or 2) God said the topic of the OP, you have me 100%

But, it has to be from Christ, or God. I don't want Paul, or the disciples' words, especially considering they had their own infighting, and may be self-fulfilling prophecies they warned of about doctrine.

I want it from the Horse''s mouth. I WILL EVEN TAKE SOURCES FROM APOCRYPHA if Christ/Ancient of Days/Lord of Lords/The Most High/Wisdom of God/Word of God etc. says the OP.

I am patiently waiting.
 
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1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him (Jesus), if we keep his (Jesus's) commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him (Jesus), and keepeth not his (Jesus's) commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his(Jesus's) word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him(Jesus).
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him(Jesus) ought himself also so to walk, even as he(Jesus) walked.


When you understand and relate to Jesus as your King you understand that his words are laws/COMMANDMENTS:

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.


Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.


The commandments of the New Covenant are the teachings of Jesus: not the 10 Commandments of the Old Covenant.
 
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1Jn 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
1Jn 2:2 And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
1Jn 2:3 And hereby we do know that we know him (Jesus), if we keep his (Jesus's) commandments.
1Jn 2:4 He that saith, I know him (Jesus), and keepeth not his (Jesus's) commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
1Jn 2:5 But whoso keepeth his(Jesus's) word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him(Jesus).
1Jn 2:6 He that saith he abideth in him(Jesus) ought himself also so to walk, even as he(Jesus) walked.


When you understand and relate to Jesus as your King you understand that his words are laws/COMMANDMENTS:

Joh 14:15 If ye love me, keep my commandments.
Joh 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever;
Joh 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him not, neither knoweth him: but ye know him; for he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you.
Joh 14:18 I will not leave you comfortless: I will come to you.
Joh 14:19 Yet a little while, and the world seeth me no more; but ye see me: because I live, ye shall live also.
Joh 14:20 At that day ye shall know that I am in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.
Joh 14:21 He that hath my commandments, and keepeth them, he it is that loveth me: and he that loveth me shall be loved of my Father, and I will love him, and will manifest myself to him.


Joh 15:10 If ye keep my commandments, ye shall abide in my love; even as I have kept my Father's commandments, and abide in his love.


The commandments of the New Covenant are the teachings of Jesus: not the 10 Commandments of the Old Covenant.

But, where does Christ specifically say the 10 commandments are done away with? He wouldn't be nebulous about such a thing; He would have explicitly stated this or something close for the conclusion to be made.

So, where does Christ say the OP?
 
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Where did God, or Christ ever say any of the law was done away with?

Where does Christ, or God say this, especially about the 10 commandments that were so pivotal the hand of God Himself wrote them on stone (to survive forever)?

If anyone can show me where 1)Christ or 2) God said the topic of the OP, you have me 100%

But, it has to be from Christ, or God. I don't want Paul, or the disciples' words, especially considering they had their own infighting, and may be self-fulfilling prophecies they warned of about doctrine.

I want it from the Horse''s mouth. I WILL EVEN TAKE SOURCES FROM APOCRYPHA if Christ/Ancient of Days/Lord of Lords/The Most High/Wisdom of God/Word of God etc. says the OP.

I am patiently waiting.


Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.

The 10 commandments and in particular the Sabbath are not written on our hearts.

Here is a video from a former 7thday Adventist Pastor on the Sabbath... while I am not in agreement with some of his points, he makes some good points about the 10 commandments and the purpose of the Sabbath:

 
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But, where does Christ specifically say the 10 commandments are done away with? He wouldn't be nebulous about such a thing; He would have explicitly stated this or something close for the conclusion to be made.

So, where does Christ say the OP?

There are a lot of things that Christ didn't say but ask yourself this question... The Pharisees asked Jesus on a number of occations: "Moses said... What do you say?" If Jesus taught obedience to the law what did it matter what he said? It is because they understood that the Messiah was to Rule and his words would be Law.
 
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There are a lot of things that Christ didn't say but ask yourself this question... The Pharisees asked Jesus on a number of occations: "Moses said... What do you say?" If Jesus taught obedience to the law what did it matter what he said? It is because they understood that the Messiah was to Rule and his words would be Law.

Christ did not leave out something as important as the negation of God's law to inference.

Eating a fresh duck turd? Yea, He expects you to make an inference on that decision, and choose correctly.

So, again, where does God/Christ SAY, not allude to, the 10 commandments are done away with - null and void.
 
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Why is it so many cannot understand Jesus and all Israelites were under the law of Moses. The new law didn't take effect until Jesus death and that is when the old law ended. If the speed limit changes tomorrow to 80 and you get caught today doing 80 you are asking for a ticket. Is that so very hard to understand. [Staff edit]


2 Corinthians 3:7-11New International Version (NIV)

The Greater Glory of the New Covenant
7 Now if the ministry that brought death, which was engraved in letters on stone, came with glory, so that the Israelites could not look steadily at the face of Moses because of its glory, transitory though it was, 8 will not the ministry of the Spirit be even more glorious? 9 If the ministry that brought condemnation was glorious, how much more glorious is the ministry that brings righteousness! 10 For what was glorious has no glory now in comparison with the surpassing glory. 11 And if what was transitory came with glory, how much greater is the glory of that which lasts!

Transitory = temporary, defunct since the new covenant took its place at the Cross.

Temporary because Israel failed to keep it. Jesus at the foundation of the Earth knew Israel and all mankind would fail and thus the plan of salvation began. The covenant with the chosen ended at the Cross.

Please don' try to twist Paul's writings here to mean the 10 are now written on our hearts. The verses do not, in any way, tell us that. Jesus through Paul has given us the truth about the 10 commandments. The Royal law of love has superseded all the 613 laws given on ly to the now defunct Israelite nation. The priesthood has changed forever.


 
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Christ did not leave out something as important as the negation of God's law to inference.

Eating a fresh duck turd? Yea, He expects you to make an inference on that decision, and choose correctly.

So, again, where does God/Christ SAY, not allude to, the 10 commandments are done away with - null and void.

Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by the hand to bring them out of the land of Egypt; which my covenant they brake, although I was an husband unto them, saith the LORD:

The Literal Hebrew text in verse 32 says NOT THE COVENANT THAT I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS...

Deu 18:15 The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;
Deu 18:16 According to all that thou desiredst of the LORD thy God in Horeb in the day of the assembly, saying, Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, neither let me see this great fire any more, that I die not.
Deu 18:17 And the LORD said unto me, They have well spoken that which they have spoken.
Deu 18:18 I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.
Deu 18:19 And it shall come to pass, that whosoever will not hearken unto my words which he shall speak in my name, I will require it of him.

Peter referring to this text says:
Act 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you.
Act 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

Moses clearly said if you don't harken (hear and obey) that prophet (Jesus) God will (as Peter put it) destroy you.

Do you know what it means that Jesus is referred to as the son of David? It means that Jesus is the King and what do kings do? THEY RULE. The Pharisees understood that the Christ was going to sit upon David's throne: as there where many Prophecies that clearly attested to it. Jesus is governor/ruler, do you think Moses is more important than Jesus? All power in heaven and earth was/is given to Jesus do you understand that?

Mat 28:18 And Jesus came and spake unto them, saying, All power is given unto me in heaven and in earth.
Mat 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations...(Mat 28:20) to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you alway, even unto the end of the world. Amen.

Jesus is the King: his words are real Christians Law.

Isa 55:1 Ho, every one that thirsteth, come ye to the waters, and he that hath no money; come ye, buy, and eat; yea, come, buy wine and milk without money and without price.
Isa 55:2 Wherefore do ye spend money for that which is not bread? and your labour for that which satisfieth not? hearken diligently unto me, and eat ye that which is good, and let your soul delight itself in fatness.
Isa 55:3 Incline your ear, and come unto me: hear, and your soul shall live; and I will make an everlasting covenant with you, even the sure mercies of David.
Isa 55:4 Behold, I have given him for a witness to the people, a leader and commander to the people.
Isa 55:5 Behold, thou shalt call a nation that thou knowest not, and nations that knew not thee shall run unto thee because of the LORD thy God, and for the Holy One of Israel; for he hath glorified thee.
Isa 55:6 Seek ye the LORD while he may be found, call ye upon him while he is near:
Isa 55:7 Let the wicked forsake his way, and the unrighteous man his thoughts: and let him return unto the LORD, and he will have mercy upon him; and to our God, for he will abundantly pardon.
Isa 55:8 For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways, saith the LORD.

Isa 42:1 Behold my servant, whom I uphold; mine elect, in whom my soul delighteth; I have put my spirit upon him: he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles.
Isa 42:2 He shall not cry, nor lift up, nor cause his voice to be heard in the street.
Isa 42:3 A bruised reed shall he not break, and the smoking flax shall he not quench: he shall bring forth judgment unto truth.
Isa 42:4 He shall not fail nor be discouraged, till he have set judgment in the earth: and the isles shall wait for his law.

You think Jesus law is Moses' law? THEN WHY DOES IT SAY THE ISLES OF THE EARTH WAIT for his law?

The Prophecies are abundant and I can find a multitude more that confirm what is already said. But let me ask you this question: "WHY DO YOU NEED MORE?" In truth it is because you have bought into your beliefs and you don't really care about the evidence that is before you. How sad is it that you don't believe of the Christ what the Pharisees clearly understood: THE MESSIAH HAD/HAS THE RIGHT TO RULE THAT SUPERSEEDED THE RULE OF MOSES. "Moses told us in the law... WHAT DO YOU SAY." Jesus's words are not Moses' and Jesus never kept the law of Moses.

Joh 5:17 But Jesus answered them, My Father worketh hitherto, and I work.
Joh 5:18 Therefore the Jews sought the more to kill him, because he not only had broken the sabbath, but said also that God was his Father, making himself equal with God.

Jesus acknowledged breaking the Sabbath and John didn't say the Jews sought to kill him because they said he broke the Sabbath, but rather, John said: HE BROKE THE SABBATH; AND JESUS CLEARLY ACKNOWLEDED DOING SO.

P.S. Just incase you didn't know it: working on the Sabbath is a violation of the 10 Commandments and so if they are necessary for righteousness, then Jesus was/is not the spotless lamb of God.
 
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The commandments of the New Covenant are the teachings of Jesus: not the 10 Commandments of the Old Covenant.

Your "quote of you" to make that case -- noted.

Now lets quote Jesus. the Pre-cross OT teaching of Jesus --

John 12:
49 "" For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.

Ex 20:6 "Love Me and KEEP My Commandments"
John 14:15 "" If you love Me, you will keep My commandments."
John 14:10 ""Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.
11 ""Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves

Hebrews 8:6-10 says that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were given to mankind by JESUS!
 
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There are a lot of things that Christ didn't say but ask yourself this question... The Pharisees asked Jesus on a number of occations: "Moses said... What do you say?" If Jesus taught obedience to the law what did it matter what he said? It is because they understood that the Messiah was to Rule and his words would be Law.

Read the Bible more.

Accept it.

Start HERE - if you want to see that your statement above does not pass the test of scripture. Sola scriptura.


Mark 7

7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men.
8 For laying aside the Commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do.
9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition.
10 For Moses said, Honour thy father and thy mother; and, Whoso curseth father or mother, let him die the death:
11 But ye say, If a man shall say to his father or mother, It is Corban, that is to say, a gift, by whatsoever thou mightest be profited by me; he shall be free.
12 And ye suffer him no more to do ought for his father or his mother;
13 Making the Word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye.


==================================== then we read this ---


Eph 6:2
2 “Honor your father and mother,” which is the first commandment with promise:

Ten Commandments spoken by Christ at Sinai - Ex 20. Heb 8:6-10

Ten Commandments quoted in NT when giving examples of the LAW.

Romans 7:7
7 What shall we say then? Is THE Law sin? Certainly not! On the contrary, I would not have known sin except through THE Law. For I would not have known covetousness unless THE law had said, “You shall not covet.

Ten Commandments -- "The Word of God" -- "The Commandment of God" - "Moses Said"

Matt 19
16 Now behold, one came and said to Him, “Good Teacher, what good thing shall I do that I may have eternal life?”
17 So He said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God. But if you want to enter into life, keep the commandments.”
18 He said to Him, “Which ones?
Jesus said,
“‘You shall not murder,’
‘You shall not commit adultery,’
‘You shall not steal,’
‘You shall not bear false witness,’
19 ‘Honor your father and your mother,’ and,
‘You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’




James 2
8 If you really fulfill the royal law according to the Scripture,You shall love your neighbor as yourself,” you do well;
9 but if you show partiality, you commit sin, and are convicted by THE Law as transgressors.
10 For whoever shall keep the whole Law, and yet stumble in one point, he is guilty of all.
11 For He who said, “Do not commit adultery,” also said, “Do not murder.” Now if you do not commit adultery, but you do murder, you have become a transgressor of THE Law. 12 So speak and so do as those who will be judged by the law of liberty.


It based on "He who said" -

Rom 2
21 You, therefore, who teach another, do you not teach yourself? You who preach that a man should not steal, do you steal?
22 You who say, “Do not commit adultery,do you commit adultery? You who abhor idols, do you rob temples?
23 You who make your boast in the law, do you dishonor God through breaking the law?
 
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Why is it so many cannot understand Jesus and all Israelites were under the law of Moses.

Romans 3:19-21 says the entire world is still -- after the cross -- under the Ten Commandments and condemned as lost sinners in need of the Gospel.

We all knew that already -

What is your point?
 
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Christ did not leave out something as important as the negation of God's law to inference.

Eating a fresh duck turd? Yea, He expects you to make an inference on that decision, and choose correctly.

So, again, where does God/Christ SAY, not allude to, the 10 commandments are done away with - null and void.
He doesn't. He reiterated them when asked which commands are to be followed.
 
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Your "quote of you" to make that case -- noted.

Now lets quote Jesus. the Pre-cross OT teaching of Jesus --

John 12:
49 "" For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.

Ex 20:6 "Love Me and KEEP My Commandments"
John 14:15 "" If you love Me, you will keep My commandments."
John 14:10 ""Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.
11 ""Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves

Hebrews 8:6-10 says that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were given to mankind by JESUS!


Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.
Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

As I have previously pointed out it is a new better covenant, not an addition to the old: the literal Hebrew states that it will NOT (be) THE COVENANT THAT I MADE WITH THEIR FATHERS IN THE DAY I TOOK THEM BY THE HAND... and I have no idea how you get or can make the claim: "Hebrews 8:6-10 says that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were given to mankind by JESUS"; In no way are those words at all true.
 
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The commandments of the New Covenant are the teachings of Jesus: not the 10 Commandments of the Old Covenant.

Your "quote of you" to make that case -- noted.

Now lets quote Jesus. the Pre-cross OT teaching of Jesus --

John 12:
49 "" For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.

Ex 20:6 "Love Me and KEEP My Commandments"
John 14:15 "" If you love Me, you will keep My commandments."
John 14:10 ""Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.
11 ""Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves

Hebrews 8:6-10 says that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were given to mankind by JESUS!

Heb 8:6 But now hath he obtained a more excellent ministry, by how much also he is the mediator of a better covenant, which was established upon better promises.
Heb 8:7 For if that first covenant had been faultless, then should no place have been sought for the second.
Heb 8:8 For finding fault with them, he saith, Behold, the days come, saith the Lord, when I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel and with the house of Judah:
Heb 8:9 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day when I took them by the hand to lead them out of the land of Egypt; because they continued not in my covenant, and I regarded them not, saith the Lord.

Thus it was JESUS speaking... and HE who gave the TEN Commandments. The very thing you claim He did not do!!



Heb 8:10 For this is the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel after those days, saith the Lord; I will put my laws into their mind, and write them in their hearts: and I will be to them a God, and they shall be to me a people:

As I have previously pointed out the NEW Covenant writes GOD's LAW ON the heart and mind. You have invented an entire fiction that the TEXT says "I will write some OTHER LAW YET TO BE STATED on the heart and mind of gentiles" -

When you insist on that sort of fiction - I must insist on the "Bible" instead.

And we both know it.
 
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He doesn't. He reiterated them when asked which commands are to be followed.

Right.

But where does He ever say that any of the Laws of God are null, void of done away with.

Christ is the only One with authority to change or amend law, but He doesnt. He reiterates the entire Law in two commandments, but that in no way nullifies God''s word or law.

Where does Christ, or God say any of God''s law is null and void? That is what the OP is suggesting, which is a bold statement indeed.
 
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Your "quote of you" to make that case -- noted.

Now lets quote Jesus. the Pre-cross OT teaching of Jesus --

John 12:
49 "" For I did not speak on My own initiative, but the Father Himself who sent Me has given Me a commandment as to what to say and what to speak.

Ex 20:6 "Love Me and KEEP My Commandments"
John 14:15 "" If you love Me, you will keep My commandments."
John 14:10 ""Do you not believe that I am in the Father, and the Father is in Me? The words that I say to you I do not speak on My own initiative, but the Father abiding in Me does His works.
11 ""Believe Me that I am in the Father and the Father is in Me; otherwise believe because of the works themselves

Hebrews 8:6-10 says that the TEN COMMANDMENTS were given to mankind by JESUS!

Ahh I see, you think that the New Covenant started after the cross: you are sadly mistaken.

Dan 9:27 And he shall confirm the covenant with many for one week. The new covenant started in the beginning of the week, not the middle of it.

Luk 16:16 The law and the prophets were until John: since that time the kingdom of God is preached, and every man presseth into it.

Mat 11:11 Verily I say unto you, Among them that are born of women there hath not risen a greater than John the Baptist: notwithstanding he that is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he.
Mat 11:12 And from the days of John the Baptist until now the kingdom of heaven suffereth violence, and the violent take it by force.
Mat 11:13 For all the prophets and the law prophesied until John.

Which part of until John did you miss? The law ended with the anointing of Jesus as King (that is to say when the dove came upon Jesus and he was baptised (it was his inauguration ceremony) by John). Jesus entered into his office as King and once out of the wilderness began preaching the gospel (message of good rules) of the kingdom: of which he is its ruler. The New covenant is laid out in the words of Jesus just as the Old Covenant was laid out in the words of Moses and after the words were spoken the sacrifices were made, but the sacrifices are not the Covenants THE WORDS SPOKEN ARE THE TERMS OF BOTH COVENANTS.
 
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Right.

But where does He ever say that any of the Laws of God are null, void of done away with.

Christ is the only One with authority to change or amend law, but He doesnt. He reiterates the entire Law in two commandments, but that in no way nullifies God''s word or law.

Where does Christ, or God say any of God''s law is null and void? That is what the OP is suggesting, which is a bold statement indeed.

You didn't see Jesus violate the Sabbath, or tell others to not stone the woman caught in adultery which the old covenant clearly commanded?

Try rereading my post which clearly has Jesus saying he is working on the Sabbath: if Jesus promoted the law of Moses why did he violate it?
 
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Ahh I see, you think that the New Covenant started after the cross: you are sadly mistaken.

Once again you simply 'quote you' for that statement.

I never argue that the New Covenant started after the cross.

I repeatedly argue that
Gal 1:6-9 - there is only ONE Gospel
Gal 3:8 - the GOSPEL was preached to Abraham
And that the NEW Covenant IS in fact - the GOSPEL. the ONE Gospel.
 
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