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The 10 Commandments are done away!

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The commandments are forever

Ephesians 6:1-3 KJV
Children, obey your parents in YAH: for this is right. Honour thy father and mother; (which is the first commandment with promise) That it may be well with thee, and thou mayest live long on the earth.

you contradict what Paul is teaching because he was still teaching(and keeping) the commandments/Torah in all of his epistles AFTER the Messiah ascended into heaven.

What was transitory, was the ministry of having the commandments written on stone. This method of administering God's commands ultimately brings and requires death. In the new covenant, the commandments are written on the heart by the Holy Spirit. The Spirit leads us, causes us and brings us into obedience to God's commands, which brings life. Praise & Honor to Yahushua the Messiah

The commandments are now written and administered on the heart in the new covenant, that we are a part of. This is the covenant that has the Torah written on the heart

Jeremiah 31:31-33 KJV
But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith YAH, I will put my law(Torah) in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their Elohim, and they shall be my people.


Ezekiel 36:26-27 KJV


More of Paul teaching to obey God's commandments. And he was quoting the Torah


Galatians 5:13-14 KJV
For, brethren, ye have been called unto liberty; only use not liberty for an occasion to the flesh, but by love serve one another. For all the Torah is fulfilled in one word(command), even in this; Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself.

This is the second most important commandment according to Yahushua the Messiah


Mark 12:29-31 KJV


Matthew 5:17-19 KJV



Ecclesiastes 12:13-14 NIV
Now all has been heard; here is the conclusion of the matter: Fear Elohim and keep his commandments, for this is the duty of all mankind. For Elohim will bring every deed into judgment, including every hidden thing, whether it is good or evil.
 
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Hello Bob.

I noticed you referred to this quotation in this post of yours.
1 Cor 7:19 "what matters is KEEPING the COMMANDMENTS of GOD"
I hope you realize that Paul is stating one of these commandments of God.
Paul repeats this commandment of God, twice in the verses shown below.

1 Corinthians 7
19 Circumcision is nothing, and uncircumcision is nothing, but the keeping of
the commandments of God.
20 Let every man abide in the same calling wherein he was called.

1 Corinthians 7
24 Brethren, let every man, wherein he is called, therein abide with God.

This is certainly a commandment of God and the text is clear, that this is one of
the commandments.

What I need to know is whether you accept this as a commandment?
 
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The commandments are forever

Ephesians 6:1-3 KJV
What commandments?

you contradict what Paul is teaching because he was still teaching(and keeping) the commandments/Torah in all of his epistles AFTER the Messiah ascended into heaven.
Instead of me arguing with me why not read Gal 3 and 4 and the book of Romans. Paul Surely did write that Torah had been fulfilled and Israel was no longer under Torah. Gentiles never were. When they became Christians you are trying totell us they had to obey Torah? That is insulting to Jesus and is plain hogwash.

Either you cannot read or you are twisting scripture to meet your preconceived ideas.

The commandments are now written and administered on the heart in the new covenant, that we are a part of. This is the covenant that has the Torah written on the heart

Jeremiah 31:31-33 KJV
Torah? No one can keep Torah? There is no temple, no Levitical priesthood, no sacrificial system. No place to send your women or your diseased. No one tears down their homes if they become moldy. You have to be kidding. Hebrews tells us:
6 But in fact the ministry Jesus has received is as superior to theirs as the covenant of which he is mediator is superior to the old one, since the new covenant is established on better promises.

7 For if there had been nothing wrong with that first covenant, no place would have been sought for another. 8 But God found fault with the people and said

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this is why Jesus left no doubt as to what the commandments are!

Luke 18:18-20(NKJV)
18Now a certain ruler asked Him, saying, “Good Teacher, what shall I do to inherit eternal life?”
19So Jesus said to him, “Why do you call Me good? No one is good but One, that is, God.
20You know the commandments: ‘Do not commit adultery,’ ‘Do not murder,’ ‘Do not steal,’ ‘Do not bear false witness,’ ‘Honor your father and your mother.’

so like Jesus said, you know the commandments!

notice also that they are mentioned in connection with inheriting eternal life!

i don't know why people insist on "faking the funk"!
 
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Hello John.

Jesus included this commandment also.

Luke 18
22 One thing you still lack, sell all that you possess and distribute it to the poor.

Do you deny this is a commandment?
 
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you contradict what Paul is teaching because he was still teaching(and keeping) the commandments/Torah in all of his epistles AFTER the Messiah ascended into heaven.
But Paul wrote here.
1 Timothy chapter 1 verse 15
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom I am the worst.
 
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Heb 7:12 shows without a doubt the law is changed (read replaced).

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But from your posts we easily gather you don't accept the Scripture either.

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Yes it is correct to say "his defunct 10 commandments" as well as the law because "his commandments" are really a rewrite or amended version of the original. That way he can keep them.

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But Paul wrote here.
1 Timothy chapter 1 verse 15
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom I am the worst.

Paul took a vow to prove he taught & kept Torah, due to false accusations against him of teaching against living according to the Torah(law)

Acts 21:20-24 KJV

Notice also, Paul was keeping the Torah, taking vows, and also observing Shabbat & the feast says after the Messiah went up to Heaven. If the law was done away with, why would he still be keeping the commands to observe the feast days? He also taught them. The false accusation was that he taught to forsake the law of Moses, which is really God's law, given through Moses. He took the vow to prove those were lies.

Elizabeth and Zechariah were righteous and kept God's commandments blamelessly

Luke 1:5-6 NIV
 
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Nice

"Bible details matter..."

And we shall see how that works.
To which I rell you again the complete details are not included in either if those references. Read the Gospels, especially John and Acts. Neither Rom 11 nor Eph 2 indicated the Christian is graft into or becomes a part of Israel.

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Where does Jesus say these are His commandments? If course you well know I refer to Jn 15:10.

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Except for the fact that all of the Ten Commandments are reiterated the New Testament.

Here's a good summary a site has...
http://www.the-ten-commandments.org/ten_commandments-new_testament.html
 
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But Paul wrote here.
1 Timothy chapter 1 verse 15
Here is a trustworthy saying that deserves full acceptance: Christ Jesus came into the world to save sinners--of whom I am the worst.
What are you saying some of the bible is false some isn't.
No law makes anything perfect, only love does.
Hebrews chapter 7

11. If perfection could have been attained through the Levitical priesthood (for on the basis of it the law was given to the people), why was there still need for another priest to come--one in the order of Melchizedek, not in the order of Aaron?

12. For when there is a change of the priesthood, there must also be a change of the law.


18. The former regulation is set aside because it was weak and useless

19. (for the law made nothing perfect), and a better hope is introduced, by which we draw near to God.
 
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No law makes anything perfect anyway, the only thing that can is love, the bible says twice God is love.
Romans chapter 9 verses 30-Romans chapter 10 verse 4
What then shall we say? That the Gentiles, who did not pursue righteousness, have obtained it, a righteousness that is by faith; but Israel, who pursued a law of righteousness, has not attained it. Why not? Because they pursued it not by faith but as if it were by works. They stumbled over the stumbling stone. As it is written: See, I lay in Zion a stone that causes men to stumble and a rock that makes them fall, and the one who trusts in him will never be put to shame. Brothers my heart's desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. For I can testify about them that they are Zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. Since they did not know the righteousness that comes from God and sought to establish their own the did not submit to God's righteousness, Christ is the end of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.
 
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